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Old August 5th 06, 02:47 AM posted to alt.support.single-parents
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Do you think a 2 1/2 year old should be able to say no to wearing
earings? 2 1/2 yr. old girl.:-)

Why not? At some point, she is going to be her very own person, with
her
very own preferences and tastes - better to practice now, while she has
mom
and/or dad to assist in the learning process.

Something about choosing one's fights carefully........ earrings isn't
the
one to wage war over.


Thanks Moon........I share your opinion of it. My grand daughters
paternal grandmother had her ears pierced when she was like 4 months
old, and J has worn them since then. Recently she asked her mom to
remove them, so her mother did. Now the woman is constantly trying to
convince J to put them back in and the child is adament "No"
..........."but your ears will close" ............"So, I dont want
them"

Now she has asked to have the earings, which makes me afraid she will
force J to wear them. We put them in a ring box and gave them to her
and sure enough she questioned J about putting them in again! How many
times does this child have to say No ?
I want to tell her "they are your ears and if you dont want earings in
them you dont have to have them in" but I think I'll just let her have
this argument with her other grandma and see who wins....I'm bettin on
J though... she is one tough cookie to break ! LOL!


They shouldn't have been pierced to begin with. Of course she shouldn't
HAVE to wear them. Good for her to say no. I hope she throws a major
temper tantrum about it and annoys the hell out of Grandma. (No you, the
other grandma!)


Why shouldn't they have been pierced to begin with? I got my daughter's
ears pierced when she was 18 months - they healed up great because she was
pretty unaware of them and didn't play with them.






Because a baby can't tell you they want holes put into their body.



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Old August 5th 06, 02:53 AM posted to alt.support.single-parents
Bev
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Mike wrote:
Wow... 2 1/2 years old, with earrings? For being young, I sure feel behind
the times.

Well, I have 2 sons, so I can't really offer any advice. But my 6 year old
son is definitely *not* getting an earring any time soon.

Mike

Exactly ...I dont even think a six year old boy would be interested in
an earing unless his dad or older brother etc. has one.

My granddaughter was forced to have pierced ears at like 4 months
because her paternal grandmother and her mother wanted her to have
them. She is 2 1/2 now and does not want them , when told by her other
grandma "but the holes will close" she said "So...I dont want them!" I
say jolly good for her ! They are her ears........

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Old August 5th 06, 03:44 AM posted to alt.support.single-parents
Moon Shyne
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"Bev" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:
"Tiffany" wrote in message
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"Bev" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:
"Bev" wrote in message
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Do you think a 2 1/2 year old should be able to say no to wearing
earings? 2 1/2 yr. old girl.:-)

Why not? At some point, she is going to be her very own person, with
her
very own preferences and tastes - better to practice now, while she
has
mom
and/or dad to assist in the learning process.

Something about choosing one's fights carefully........ earrings
isn't
the
one to wage war over.


Thanks Moon........I share your opinion of it. My grand daughters
paternal grandmother had her ears pierced when she was like 4 months
old, and J has worn them since then. Recently she asked her mom to
remove them, so her mother did. Now the woman is constantly trying to
convince J to put them back in and the child is adament "No"
..........."but your ears will close" ............"So, I dont want
them"

Now she has asked to have the earings, which makes me afraid she will
force J to wear them. We put them in a ring box and gave them to her
and sure enough she questioned J about putting them in again! How
many
times does this child have to say No ?
I want to tell her "they are your ears and if you dont want earings in
them you dont have to have them in" but I think I'll just let her have
this argument with her other grandma and see who wins....I'm bettin on
J though... she is one tough cookie to break ! LOL!


They shouldn't have been pierced to begin with. Of course she shouldn't
HAVE to wear them. Good for her to say no. I hope she throws a major
temper tantrum about it and annoys the hell out of Grandma. (No you,
the
other grandma!)


Why shouldn't they have been pierced to begin with? I got my daughter's
ears pierced when she was 18 months - they healed up great because she
was
pretty unaware of them and didn't play with them.

I myself have always felt it should be a persons own choice. I know
there are many parents that get thier infant daughters ears pierced
heck I have even seen parents of infant sons piercing thier ear , I
personally chose to let my own decide for themselves. Apparently my
granddaughter prefers not to have them and now that she is old enough
to object she is. I voiced my opinion to her mother who chose to be a
part of the piercing and I respected that then .I'm not so sure we as
parents should be making these kinds of decisions for our children
before they are old enough to choose for themselves.


Well....... if the child decides they don't want earrings, it's a simple
matter to simply take 'em out - the holes will get quite small, and in some
cases close entirely.

I just didn't see why it would be such a terrible thing to have done when
the child was small enough for it to be over and done with.




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Old August 5th 06, 03:45 AM posted to alt.support.single-parents
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"Tiffany" wrote in message
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"Tiffany" wrote in message
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"Bev" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:
"Bev" wrote in message
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Do you think a 2 1/2 year old should be able to say no to wearing
earings? 2 1/2 yr. old girl.:-)

Why not? At some point, she is going to be her very own person, with
her
very own preferences and tastes - better to practice now, while she
has mom
and/or dad to assist in the learning process.

Something about choosing one's fights carefully........ earrings isn't
the
one to wage war over.


Thanks Moon........I share your opinion of it. My grand daughters
paternal grandmother had her ears pierced when she was like 4 months
old, and J has worn them since then. Recently she asked her mom to
remove them, so her mother did. Now the woman is constantly trying to
convince J to put them back in and the child is adament "No"
..........."but your ears will close" ............"So, I dont want
them"

Now she has asked to have the earings, which makes me afraid she will
force J to wear them. We put them in a ring box and gave them to her
and sure enough she questioned J about putting them in again! How many
times does this child have to say No ?
I want to tell her "they are your ears and if you dont want earings in
them you dont have to have them in" but I think I'll just let her have
this argument with her other grandma and see who wins....I'm bettin on
J though... she is one tough cookie to break ! LOL!


They shouldn't have been pierced to begin with. Of course she shouldn't
HAVE to wear them. Good for her to say no. I hope she throws a major
temper tantrum about it and annoys the hell out of Grandma. (No you, the
other grandma!)


Why shouldn't they have been pierced to begin with? I got my daughter's
ears pierced when she was 18 months - they healed up great because she
was pretty unaware of them and didn't play with them.






Because a baby can't tell you they want holes put into their body.


And little boys don't tell us they want to be circumsized, either - but an
awful lot of people have it done to their newborn sons.






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Old August 5th 06, 12:16 PM posted to alt.support.single-parents
Moon Shyne
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
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"Tiffany" wrote in message
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"Bev" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:
"Bev" wrote in message
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Do you think a 2 1/2 year old should be able to say no to wearing
earings? 2 1/2 yr. old girl.:-)

Why not? At some point, she is going to be her very own person,
with her
very own preferences and tastes - better to practice now, while she
has mom
and/or dad to assist in the learning process.

Something about choosing one's fights carefully........ earrings
isn't the
one to wage war over.


Thanks Moon........I share your opinion of it. My grand daughters
paternal grandmother had her ears pierced when she was like 4 months
old, and J has worn them since then. Recently she asked her mom to
remove them, so her mother did. Now the woman is constantly trying to
convince J to put them back in and the child is adament "No"
..........."but your ears will close" ............"So, I dont want
them"

Now she has asked to have the earings, which makes me afraid she will
force J to wear them. We put them in a ring box and gave them to her
and sure enough she questioned J about putting them in again! How
many
times does this child have to say No ?
I want to tell her "they are your ears and if you dont want earings
in
them you dont have to have them in" but I think I'll just let her
have
this argument with her other grandma and see who wins....I'm bettin
on
J though... she is one tough cookie to break ! LOL!


They shouldn't have been pierced to begin with. Of course she
shouldn't HAVE to wear them. Good for her to say no. I hope she throws
a major temper tantrum about it and annoys the hell out of Grandma.
(No you, the other grandma!)

Why shouldn't they have been pierced to begin with? I got my
daughter's ears pierced when she was 18 months - they healed up great
because she was pretty unaware of them and didn't play with them.






Because a baby can't tell you they want holes put into their body.


And little boys don't tell us they want to be circumsized, either - but
an awful lot of people have it done to their newborn sons.








I don't have a little boy so I can't say from experience what I would do
in that situation.

But just because an awful lot of ppl have it done doesn't make it right.


On the other hand, I still don't see anything terribly wrong with a parent
making the decision to have their child's ears pierced at a young age.

Or making the decision to have their child circumsized.

Or getting their hair cut, or any of the other decisions that parents make
all the time.






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Old August 5th 06, 03:01 PM posted to alt.support.single-parents
Bev
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Moon Shyne wrote:

And little boys don't tell us they want to be circumsized, either - but an
awful lot of people have it done to their newborn sons.


This is very true , I don't agree with that either. These is personal
choices that I think parents make and I personally would'nt make those
types of choices myself. You see little 1 and 2 year olds sporting
mohawks and that irks my craw as well this is not the childs choice .
Parents will of course eventually have to have the childs hair cut, the
extremes are not what the child is wanting but again what the parent
wants.
Just my opinion I still live my life "to each thier own"
Bev

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Old August 5th 06, 03:06 PM posted to alt.support.single-parents
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'Kate wrote:
On 4 Aug 2006 18:53:43 -0700, "Bev" the
following was posted in blue dry erase marker:


Mike wrote:
Wow... 2 1/2 years old, with earrings? For being young, I sure feel behind
the times.

Well, I have 2 sons, so I can't really offer any advice. But my 6 year old
son is definitely *not* getting an earring any time soon.

Mike

Exactly ...I dont even think a six year old boy would be interested in
an earing unless his dad or older brother etc. has one.

My granddaughter was forced to have pierced ears at like 4 months
because her paternal grandmother and her mother wanted her to have
them. She is 2 1/2 now and does not want them , when told by her other
grandma "but the holes will close" she said "So...I dont want them!" I
say jolly good for her ! They are her ears........


hehe... she didn't get a choice about her name either and she's stuck
with that too.

I know. I'm a troublemaker.


yea you are ! We could just call all of them Jane and John doe and let
them choose thier names later.......but lets remember my granddaughter
named her turtle vagina!grin

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Old August 5th 06, 03:13 PM posted to alt.support.single-parents
Bev
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'Kate wrote:
On 4 Aug 2006 08:39:41 -0700, "Bev" the
following was posted in blue dry erase marker:


'Kate wrote:
On 3 Aug 2006 17:58:21 -0700, "Bev" the
following was posted in blue dry erase marker:

Do you think a 2 1/2 year old should be able to say no to wearing
earings? 2 1/2 yr. old girl.:-)

Eeek... I dunno. My kids didn't have pierced ears until they were old
enough to decide that for themselves. It became a 13 year old birthday
ritual. You know, welcome to teen-hood.... OUCH.


Yea I waited for mine to ask........remember when S was sticking safety
pins in her eyebrow and naval when she was like 14? At 19 she has
unmentionables done now ,
all I know is not my cup a tea! YIKES!!!!!!!!


I can totally understand where you're coming from. My oldest has a
tattoo and several piercings. I don't even want to know where. My
youngest has her lip done. She use to have a Monroe but let it close up
after I said I'd sneak in one night and tie her mouth shut. :-)


ROFLOL !!!!!! S had her nose pierced with the little stud type earing
and it lasted a day she could not stand it.

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Old August 6th 06, 01:19 AM posted to alt.support.single-parents
Tiffany
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"Bev" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:

And little boys don't tell us they want to be circumsized, either - but
an
awful lot of people have it done to their newborn sons.


This is very true , I don't agree with that either. These is personal
choices that I think parents make and I personally would'nt make those
types of choices myself. You see little 1 and 2 year olds sporting
mohawks and that irks my craw as well this is not the childs choice .
Parents will of course eventually have to have the childs hair cut, the
extremes are not what the child is wanting but again what the parent
wants.
Just my opinion I still live my life "to each thier own"
Bev


Yep, me too.


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Old August 6th 06, 02:28 AM posted to alt.support.single-parents
Moon Shyne
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"Tiffany" wrote in message
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"Bev" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:

And little boys don't tell us they want to be circumsized, either - but
an
awful lot of people have it done to their newborn sons.


This is very true , I don't agree with that either. These is personal
choices that I think parents make and I personally would'nt make those
types of choices myself. You see little 1 and 2 year olds sporting
mohawks and that irks my craw as well this is not the childs choice .
Parents will of course eventually have to have the childs hair cut, the
extremes are not what the child is wanting but again what the parent
wants.
Just my opinion I still live my life "to each thier own"
Bev


Yep, me too.


Even parents who might raise their children differently from how you might?
Still "to each, their own"?






 




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