Why Did "Aids Baby" Eliza Jane Really Die?

"JanD" wrote:


"Robert" wrote in message
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"JanD" wrote in message
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You snipped his background, Robert.

Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing.

Robert,

In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a
toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST!

Jan, if Rosalind Dalefield made a comment about why someone had died
would you believe her? She is a PhD toxicologist, and I think she is a
veterinarian as well.
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To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" wrote in message
ups.com...

JanD wrote:

Where they came up with this doofus Egyptian vet toxicologist

a.. Project Title: Quantitative Evaluation of Serum Chemistry, Hematology
and Pathological Parameters in Dog, Sheep, and Pig Exposed To Whole Body
Irradiation. Agency: AMGEN Pharmaceutical Inc. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320.
Duration: 30 months (1993-1995); Amount: $254,778; Functions: PI,
toxicologist, and pathologist.
b.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic
Toxicant and Carcinogens. Agency: *****United States Environmental
Protection
Agency.***** Duration: 48 months (1990-1995); Amount: $980,000;
Functions:
Co-PI,
******toxicologist, and pathologist******.
c.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic
Toxicant. Agency:****** United States Environmental Protection
Agency;*****
Duration:
36 months (1987-1990); Amount: $240,000; Functions: Co-PI,*****
toxicologist, and
pathologist.****
d.. Project Title: Dermal Absorption of Methanol and Gasoline/Methanol
Mixtures. ****Agency: California Air Resources Board*****. Duration: 18
months
(7/90-12/91); Amount: $84,000; Functions: Co-PI, *****toxicologist, and
pathologist.****
e.. Project Title: Toxicity of the Inhaled Dimethylselenide in Adult
Rat.
*****Agency: University of California, Riverside.****** Duration: 12
months
(07/87-07/88); Amount: $70,000; Functions: Co-PI, *****toxicologist, and
pathologist*****.
f.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors in People.
*****Agency: California Air Resources Board*****; Contract No. A5-155-33.
Duration: 18
months (1986-1987); Amount: $150,000; Functions: Investigator,***
toxicologist,
and pathologist.*****
g.. Project Title: Effects of Airborne Particulate Matter. *****Agency:
California Air Resources Board;***** Contract No. A4-133-33. Duration: 24
months
(1985-1987); Amount: $250,000; Functions: Investigator, ****toxicologist,
and
pathologist*****.
h.. Project Title: Gastrointestinal Tract Uptake of Benzene in Drinking
Water, and Consequent Tissue and Fetal Retention. ****Agency: Toxic
Substance
Research and Teaching Program, University of California,***** Davis.
Function: 12
months (1986-1987); Amount: $50,000; Functions: Co-PI, ****toxicologist,
and
pathologist*****.
i.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors at Trace
Levels.
****Agency: California Air Resources Board;***** Contract No. A3-132-33.
Duration: 18
months (1984-1986); Amount: $140,000; Functions: Investigator,
****toxicologist,
and pathologist****.
j.. Project Title: Toxicity and Toxicokinetics of Vanadium in Rodents.
*****Agency: United States Department of Energy*****. Duration: 72 months
(1981-1987);
Functions: Co-PI, *****toxicologist, and pathologist****.
k.. Project Title: Studies of Biological Behavior of Pu-241 and Am-241
in
Rat, Dog, and Primate. ****Agency: United States Department of
Energy*****.
Duration:
72 months (1980-1986); Functions: Investigator, *****toxicologist, and
pathologist*****.
l.. Project Title: Respiratory Tract Deposition of Inhaled Aerosols in
Small Rodents. *****Agency: United States Environmental Protection****
Agency.
Duration: 60 months (1980-1985); Amount: $500,000; Functions:
Investigator,
****toxicologist, and pathologist.****
Dr. Al-Bayati holds ****U.S. Patent number *****5,686,237 dated November
11,
1997 for
Use of biomarkers in saliva to evaluate the toxicity of agents and the
functions of tissues in both ***biomedical and environmental
applications***.

Your *doofus* name calling does NOT apply.


COMMENT
The "doofus" part is doing the animal tox research above (please read
carefully what you post)

I read EVERY word, did you?

They were NOT all animal tox research.

and then thinking you're qualified to say
*anything* about the workup or clinical course of a 3 year-old child
with pneumonia.

*I* don't need to be qualified to READ others' work.

Furthermore there is NO need to try and trash, personally, Mr. *TYPICAL GANG
MEMBER*

This guy has NOTHING on this CV to indicate that he knows a damn thing
about human clinical medicine in general or pediatrics in particular,
about infectious diseases in general or pneumonia in particular, about
antibiotic allergies and amoxicillin reactions in particular, about
viruses in general and B19 and HIV in particular. But there he is,
acting as "expert" witness for all of it. Sheesh. And what he actually
suggests happened, reflects this complete lack of human clinical
perspective. Read Dr. Bennett's comments. What he says goes for me
also.

SBH

Yeah, Yeah.

Blah, blah, blah.

Listen to the tape, Dr. Mohammed al-Bayati is NOT a doofus.

I have Dateline taped, but have not watched it yet.

The *gang* has done all the usual name calling because this is all *OUTSIDE*
of their belief system.

Their main goal is nothing more than to protect *organized * and
*conventional* medcine beliefs, REGARDLESS, of *TRUTH*, nor who gets in
their way!

JanD wrote:

Your *doofus* name calling does NOT apply.


COMMENT
The "doofus" part is doing the animal tox research above (please read
carefully what you post)

I read EVERY word, did you?

They were NOT all animal tox research.


No, but most were. And the few that are not (involving human enviro tox
or radiation) don't change the conclusion any.


and then thinking you're qualified to say
*anything* about the workup or clinical course of a 3 year-old child
with pneumonia.

*I* don't need to be qualified to READ others' work.


Actually, you do. If you want to understand it. And al-Bayati needs to
have some experience with sick children with pneumonia to render an
opinion on the death of a sick child with pneumonia.



Furthermore there is NO need to try and trash, personally, Mr. *TYPICAL GANG
MEMBER*

This guy has NOTHING on this CV to indicate that he knows a damn thing
about human clinical medicine in general or pediatrics in particular,
about infectious diseases in general or pneumonia in particular, about
antibiotic allergies and amoxicillin reactions in particular, about
viruses in general and B19 and HIV in particular. But there he is,
acting as "expert" witness for all of it. Sheesh. And what he actually
suggests happened, reflects this complete lack of human clinical
perspective. Read Dr. Bennett's comments. What he says goes for me
also.

SBH

Yeah, Yeah.

Blah, blah, blah.


Read what I said and try to understand it. Than you can understand why
this guys blathering about viruses, pneumonia, and AIDS is nonsensical.
He knows nothing about viruses, pneumonia and AIDS.



Listen to the tape, Dr. Mohammed al-Bayati is NOT a doofus.

Actually, he is.

The *gang* has done all the usual name calling because this is all *OUTSIDE*
of their belief system.


That a child who comes to the hospital with lungs full of pneumocystis
carinii and has a respiratory arrest and dies, has died of pneumocystis
pneumonia, is a *belief system*? Why yes, I guess it is. Maybe she
died of voodoo. Maybe she died of a microbe which nobody ever found in
her, like B19. One pulled out of a hat. One that doesn't cause symptoms
like hers. Maybe she died of a sudden and fatal allergic reaction to
the first dose of a drug she'd never had before.

Would all these be YOUR belief system? Apparently they are part of Dr.
Mohammed al-Bayati's belief system. A doofus, as I said.

SBH

"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
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"JanD" wrote:


"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
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"JanD" wrote:


"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
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"Peter Moran" pmoranATbordernet.com.au wrote:


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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john wrote:
http://breakfornews.com/my/modules.p...icle&sid= 259

Christine Maggiore and her husband, Robin Scovill, are challenging
the
Los Angeles County Coroner's finding that their three-year-old
daughter
Eliza Jane Scovill died from Aids-related pneumonia.

We interview pathologist Dr. Mohammed al-Bayati who has just
authored
a
report revealing that the child died of anaphylactic reaction to a
prescribed antibiotic, and we speak also Dr. Andrew Maniotis of the
University Illinois at Chicago.

For excellent analysis of al-Bayati's "work" see:

http://tinyurl.com/dam9v

especially this comment by a real pathologist:

A Google search reveals that he is a "pathologist-for-hire", figuring
in
many court cases where "alternative" science can get people off. He
was
involved in the Yurko case.

Peter Moran


Perhaps you should make it clear, Peter, that you are talking about
al-Bayati, not the person referred to by the immediately-preceding
words "real pathologist".

Perhaps he could tell us just *where* this search revealed the above?

It was al-Bayati who came up with the idea that the baby slaughtered
by Alan Yurko had really been killed by the doctor in the ER.

It was YOU who uses the word *slaughtered*, and YOU and others who
have continued to judge.

It was a court in Florida which recorded a verdict of manslaughter.
Except this time it was baby slaughter.

It was YOU who uses the word *slaughtered*, and YOU and others who have
continued to judge

[snip stupidity]


There were literally hundreds of health-care professionals who have made
judgements otherwise.

There are mad people and people with agendas in every walk of life.

Like Peter Bowditch and his LYING websites.

List the LIES, please.

You are repeating yourself, A G A I N.

Peter Bowditch
Oct 16, 11:11 pm

I know you can't list the LIES for the same reason that you can't list
the LIES anywhere else on my site. There are none.

Peter Bowditch
Jun 19, 6:00 am

Please list the LIES on the following pages, Jan:

ratbagsliar.com

113. Peter Bowditch
Jan 5 2004, 12:40 am

Which lies are those, again, Jan?

Do show us where Dr. Haley's fans said he has apologized!

Just WHERE was it claimed that you were condoning Dr. Patel behavior?????


Just WHERE did anyone say you were *protecting* him ot it was some kind of
cover up?????


Just WHERE has anyone one said there was absolute safety in alternative??


Three Dead Children

For starters.


Why is it that these "health-care professionals" can be believed but
others can't?

Vaccination LIARS stick together, just like the *gang* members do here.

The toxicological causes of baby Yurko's death was
vaccine-and-medication
induced, an overload of drugs and antibiotics.
The child have been given high doses of sodium bicarbonate and heparin,
which cause cardiac arrest and internal bleeding and produce symptoms
similar to SBS.

[snip stupid tactics, similar to there is no such thing as no such thing
mercury amalagam, ZZzz]


(I don't know why Jan had to bring amalgam into this, but I am still
waiting for some definition of "mercury amalgam" that isn't
nonsensical. An amalgam is an alloy of mercury with some other metal.
A "mercury amalgam" would be a mixture of mercury and mercury, and
would be useless for filling teeth unless you kept your head very
still to prevent slopping.)

Poor Peter.

Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
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"JanD" wrote:
A Repost
Mercury-amalgam dental fillings have never been subjected to the kind of
regulatory scrutiny and approval process demanded of all modern drugs
and
medical devices to prove safety.

There is no such thing as "mercury-amalgam".


ZZzz.

You have been told this
before.


ZZzz.
Being the ARROGANT REPEATED HARASSER THAT YOU ARE, I shall post this
AGAIN!

Being the ARROGANT REPEATED HARASSER THAT YOU ARE, I shall post this AGAIN!


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"LadyLollipop" wrote:
"David Wright" wrote in message
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In article . com,
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David Wright wrote:
In article
I'd have to dig them up again, but I found several papers on
Hg release from amalgam fillings, not just the one you were
reviling.
Good please post a paper proving the safety of amalgams when
you can.
I doubt that any paper would ever satisfy you as to the "safety of
amalgams." I'm not even sure what you mean by the term.

ROTFLOL!!!!!

David also didn't know that the words mercury amalgam is used even on
Medline.
Of course they is. Consider the following factual statement: "Fools
who know no chemistry may talk about mercury amalgams, but real
scientists know that the term is a tautology".
See, it's easy to use the words "mercury amalgam" and still speak the
truth.


Hmmm, says Peter Bowditch who has NO chemistry education nr NO medical
training.

Peter Bowditch Nov 23 2004, 11:30 pm


There are no such things as "mercury amalgams". Only a person ignorant
of chemistry would use such a stupid term. Amalgams are alloys of
mercury with some other metal, and the idea of something forming an
alloy with itself is ridiculous. Please stop using this badge of
ignorance.


Peter Bowditch Nov 14 2004, 6:36 am


There is no such thing as "mercury amalgam". The expression makes no
sense


Words have meanings, and the word "amalgam" means an alloy of a metal
with mercury. Therefore a "mercury amalgam" is either an alloy
containing 50% of mercury mixed with 50% of mercury, or it is an
expression containing redundancy. In either case it demonstrates the
ignorance of the person using the expression. Please do not use it
again, lest people think that you are ignorant and resistant to
correction if that ignorance, and please use it as a filter which will
allow you to ignore "scientific" papers which use this meaningless
expression.


Peter Bowditch Feb 23, 8:58 am


As there is no such thing as "mercury amalgams", the rest of this
diatribe can be discarded for the bull**** it is.


Peter Bowditch Jul 2 2003, 10:34 pm


There are no such things as "mercury amalgams". People with minimal
education in chemistry and metallurgy know this. The expression
"mercury amalgam" has as much semantic content as "apple fruit" or
"prejudiced ...


Peter Bowditch Apr 27 2004, 9:22 am


There is no such thing as mercury amalgam. If anything fitting this
description was used to fill teeth it would spill out if you tilted
your head.



snip
--
Peter Bowditch


The studies found that the amount of mercury excreted in the urine
was proprotional to the number and size of fillings in the victim's mouth.
Moreover many oral habits such as chewing gum, clenching or grinding greatly
increased the amount of mercury released and absorbed.

==


6. Amalgam Fillings Largest Source of Mercury by Far


Based on a number of studies in Sweden, the World Health Organization review
of
inorganic mercury in 1991 determined that mercury absorption is estimated to
be
approximately four times higher from amalgam fillings than from fish
consumption. Recent studies have confirmed this estimate and shown that the
amount absorbed can vary considerably from person to person.


7. Gold Crowns, Gum, Bruxism, Computer Monitors Increase Release of Mercury
Significantly


Gum chewing, bruxism (grinding of teeth), computer terminal exposure,
presence
of gold fillings or gold crowns (even if covering mercury fillings), teeth
brushing, braces and even chewing food cause the release of significantly
increased amounts of mercury from the fillings in one's teeth.


8. Cumulative Poison Builds Up in Organs


Mercury released from fillings builds up in the brain, kidneys, liver,
pituitary, adrenals and other parts of the body.


========


According to the World Health Organization the general sources of mercury in
the body a Breathed Air (.040 micrograms), Fish (2.34 micrograms),
Non-fish
food (.25 micrograms), Drinking-water .0035 micrograms), mercury vapor from
dental amalgams (3 to 17 micrograms).


*****The mercury vapor from dental amalgam
alone is a bigger source than all the other sources together.*******


http://tuberose.com/Amalgam_Fi*llings.html


http://www.heart-disease-bypas*s-sur...ticles/85*.htm


http://www.home.earthlink.net/*~berniew1/galv.html


http://www.web-light.nl/AMALGA*M/EN/frame_r.html


http://www.eatingalive.com/win*dham/windhamA.htm


http://tuberose.com/Mercury.ht*ml


http://www.cqs.com/amalgam.htm


A few from Medline:


http://tinyurl.com/alfxm


http://tinyurl.com/auzuc


http://tinyurl.com/7nqft


http://tinyurl.com/dxdnj


Perhaps Peter can investigate each fool who wrote these, find some dirt in
their past, maybe they didn't dot an i or cross a t, Peter is an expert (or
so he thinks is making fools) of all who think outside of *organized
medicine* which has been defined repeatedly.


Jan


You have been told before, YOU are wrong and a LIAR as well.


[snip diversion, harassing and blather]


resto


A Repost


Mercury-amalgam dental fillings have never been subjected to the kind of
regulatory scrutiny and approval process demanded of all modern drugs and
medical devices to prove safety.


Until this day dentistry has used marketing, political influence, and
control
of regulatory boards at all levels to impose its self-serving economic view
that mercury-amalgam is completely safe. The science that proves safety is
still not forthcoming from the ADA, nor from dental schools, nor from
mercury-amalgam manufacturers.
Science has not been the driving force behind the ADA's public information
on
mercury release. When asked about the safety of mercury amalgam the response
one always heard previously, and can still hear today in many dental offices
is: "once set, the mercury becomes completely stable and locked up, it
doesn't
leak out". After it was unequivocally demonstrated that mercury vapor
continuously escapes from mercury-amalgam fillings the ADA repositioned
itself
and now claims: "the small amount of mercury released from amalgam
restorations, especially during placement and removal, has not been shown to
cause any adverse health effects."


Mercury escapes from amalgam and is taken up by the human as metallic vapor,
metallic vapor and ionic mercury dissolved in saliva, and as unknown mercury
species directly through the tooth pulp and root into the bloodstream.[3]
Ionic
mercury in saliva is converted to methylmercury.[4]


Mercury travels from amalgam fillings into the jaw, gut, liver, kidneys,
glands
and brain, crosses the placenta to the fetus, and is found in mother's
milk.[18] [19] [20] [21] [22]


WARNING TO PARENTS:


"SILVER" FILLINGS ARE REALLY 50% MERCURY!


THE AMERICAN DENTAL ASSOCIATION SAYS THEY ARE SAFE!
CONCERNED PARENTS SHOULD KNOW:


MERCURY has been eliminated from all other uses in the human body, including
vaccines, disinfectants, and other oral uses.


All other health care associations support full disclosure, while the
American
Dental Association hides its use of MERCURY.


The ADA receives money from MERCURY amalgam manufacturers through its Seal
of
Acceptance program, in contrast with the American Medical Association, which
rejected taking fees for product endorsements.


The ADA holds patents on amalgam (since expired), furthering its business
interests by the continued use of MERCURY in dentistry.


The ADA endorses pre-Civil War medicine, saying amalgam is justified because
its use began in 1850!


The ADA says MERCURY dental fillings are safe to use in children's teeth.


In 1997, MERCURY amalgam filling manufacturer Dentsply stated that MERCURY
amalgam fillings are "contraindicated" (meaning DO NOT USE) for children and
pregnant women.


The American Dental Association is still calling MERCURY amalgam fillings
"silver" and denies MERCURY fillings can ever be dangerous!


Federal and most state medical insurance programs only pay for MERCURY
fillings
because they are the least expensive, so poor people and poor children are
especially at risk.


U.S. Public Health Service: The largest component of amalgam is MERCURY.
ADA: Amalgam is "silver" fillings.


U.S. Public Health Service: For most people, the leading cause of MERCURY
toxicity is amalgam fillings, not fish.
ADA: You only get traces of MERCURY vapor in your body.


U S Public Health Service: MERCURY is a dangerous neuro-toxin; the MERCURY
in
amalgam goes to the brain, and to a fetus through the placenta.
ADA: MERCURY exposure is like having an "allergy" to dust or pollen!


American Medical Association: Don't take $$$ for endorsements.
ADA: Receives fees from MERCURY amalgam manufacturers while calling amalgam
"safe". For further information on this issue and links to recent press
coverage of the controversy with the ADA and the dangers of Mercury in
dentistry, please read the August 22 Page 1 article in the Chicago Tribune:
http://chicagotribune.com/news/local...2.story?coll=c...
news%2Dhed
and visit: www.toxicteeth.net


--
Peter Bowditch


[snip the repeated as well]

--
Peter Bowditch

"Peter Bowditch" wrote

[snip diversion + proven lying websites + inmate #]

"JanD" wrote:


"Robert" wrote in message
. ..

"JanD" wrote in message
news:f8Skf.597397$x96.306475@attbi_s72...
You snipped his background, Robert.

Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing.

Robert,

In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a
toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST!


--
Peter Bowdit

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" wrote in message
oups.com...

JanD wrote:

Your *doofus* name calling does NOT apply.


COMMENT
The "doofus" part is doing the animal tox research above (please read
carefully what you post)

I read EVERY word, did you?

They were NOT all animal tox research.


No, but most were. And the few that are not (involving human enviro tox
or radiation) don't change the conclusion any.

Seems to me, you keep looking for new excuses.


and then thinking you're qualified to say
*anything* about the workup or clinical course of a 3 year-old child
with pneumonia.

*I* don't need to be qualified to READ others' work.


Actually, you do.

Actually, I do NOT.

He was qualified as both a toxicologist AND A PATHOLOGIST.

Just as I listed.

If you want to understand it. And al-Bayati needs to
have some experience with sick children with pneumonia to render an
opinion on the death of a sick child with pneumonia.

He explains it quite well and in detail.



Furthermore there is NO need to try and trash, personally, Mr. *TYPICAL
GANG
MEMBER*

This guy has NOTHING on this CV to indicate that he knows a damn thing
about human clinical medicine in general or pediatrics in particular,
about infectious diseases in general or pneumonia in particular, about
antibiotic allergies and amoxicillin reactions in particular, about
viruses in general and B19 and HIV in particular. But there he is,
acting as "expert" witness for all of it. Sheesh. And what he actually
suggests happened, reflects this complete lack of human clinical
perspective. Read Dr. Bennett's comments. What he says goes for me
also.

SBH

Yeah, Yeah.

Blah, blah, blah.


Read what I said and try to understand it. Than you can understand why
this guys blathering about viruses, pneumonia, and AIDS is nonsensical.
He knows nothing about viruses, pneumonia and AIDS.

I listened to the tape, he explained it well. I will watch Dateline
tomorrow.

I know all to well EXACTLY where you are coming from.





Listen to the tape, Dr. Mohammed al-Bayati is NOT a doofus.

Actually, he is.

Actually, he is NOT.

Education And Board Certifications


I. Human Pathology, Toxicology, Immunology, and Biochmestry


Ph.D. 1989 Comparative Pathology. University of California Davis, Davis,
California. Subject of studies: Human pathology, toxicology, pharmacology,
medical immunology, medical biochemistry, analytical toxicology,
environmental toxicology, and experimental toxicology. Dissertation:
Toxicokinetics and Toxicity of Vanadate


DABT 1994 Diplomate, American Board of Toxicology


II. Veterinary Pathology, Toxicology, Immunology, and Endocrinology


DABVT 1996 Diplomate, American Board of Veterinary Toxicology


M.V.Sc. 1978 Veterinary sciences. University of Cairo, College of Veterinary
Medicine, Cairo, Egypt Subject of studies: Veterinary pathology and
physiology. Dissertation: Histopathological and histochemical changes in the
adrenal glands of the Egyptian Buffalo with follicular cysts and inactive
ovaries.


BVMS 1975 University of Baghdad, College of Veterinary Medicine, Baghdad,
Iraq.


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Personal Information
United States Citizen Languages: English and Arabic: speak, read, and write
fluently
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Qualifications In Toxicology And Biomedical Sciences
a.. Expertise in human, veterinary, experimental, and environmental
toxicology and pathology, including: diagnostic toxicology (exposure of
human and animals to pesticides, herbicides, heavy metals, organic solvents,
biotoxins, therapeutic drugs, industrial chemicals, and radiation),
evaluating human and veterinary clinical data and pathological lesions in
tissues, and experience in the kinetics of toxicants in human and animals.
b.. Worked with various communities and health care providers to identify
causes of illness resulting from environmental exposure to pesticides,
herbicides and other xenobiotics, and medications
c.. Expertise in writing medical opinions in support of legal claims and
obtaining a proper diagnosis in cases related to exposure of people and
animals to toxic agents, therapeutic drugs, and radiation.
d.. Served as Expert Witness on many cases involving the exposure of
people to chemicals at workplace. In these cases, I identified the cause(s)
of illnesses and provided the treating physicians and the attorneys with
reports describing my findings.
e.. Over 15 years experience of directing, designing, and implementing in
vivo and in vitro toxicological studies according to Good Laboratory
Practice Guidelines. Wrote protocols, standard operating procedures, and
quality assurance plan for toxicity and toxicokinetic studies. Developed
methods to evaluate the effects of toxicants and drugs on biological systems
(in vitro and in vivo systems).
f.. Developed protocols for and interpreted results of Gas Chromatography
and High Performance Liquid Chromatography, Liquid Scintillation Counter and
Radiomatic Detector, Spectrophotometer (UV-Visible), Biological Sample
Oxidizer, and other analytical systems.
g.. Performed Enzyme assays in serum and tissues.
h.. Perform assays in serum and tissues to measure heavy metals and
pesticides.
i.. Used radioisotopes (14C, 3H, 32P, and others) to study drugs and
xenobiotics metabolism in vivo and/or in vitro.
j.. Collected, inspected, and analyzed numerical data derived from
experimental studies.


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Teaching Experience
a.. Instructed and supervised undergraduate, graduate students, laboratory
assistants, and laboratory technicians in the areas of general toxicology,
systemic toxicology, toxicologic pathology, analytical toxicology.
Writing Research Grants, Contracts And Supervising Experience
a.. Served as Principal and Co-Principal Investigator in many funded
studies using animal models to evaluate the toxicokinetics and the toxicity
of xenobiotics, pesticides and drugs. Maintain budgets, write budget reports
and keep projects running within the predicted time frames. Supervised
research activities in toxicology facilities for about 15 years. The
following is a list of previously funded projects
a.. Project Title: Quantitative Evaluation of Serum Chemistry,
Hematology and Pathological Parameters in Dog, Sheep, and Pig Exposed To
Whole Body Irradiation. Agency: AMGEN Pharmaceutical Inc. Thousand Oaks, CA
91320 Duration: 30 months (1993-1995) Amount: $254,778, Position: PI
b.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic
Toxicant and Carcinogens. Agency: United States Environmental Protection
Agency Duration:48 months (1990-1995) Amount: $980,000 Project Role: Co-PI
c.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic
Toxicant. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency Duration:36
months (1987-1990) Amount: $240,000 Project Role: Co-PI
d.. Project Title: Dermal Absorption of Methanol and Gasoline/Methanol
Mixtures. Agency: California Air Resources Board Duration:18 months
(7/90-12/91) Amount:$84,000Project Role: Co-PI
e.. Project Title: Toxicity of the Inhaled Dimethylselenide in Adult
Rat. Agency: University of California, Riverside Duration: 12 months
(07/87-07/88) Amount: $70,000 Position: Co-PI
f.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors in People.
Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A5-155-33 Duration: 18
months (1986-1987) Amount: $150,000 Position: Investigator
g.. Project Title: Effects of Airborne Particulate Matter. Agency:
California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A4-133-33 Duration: 24 months
(1985-1987) Amount: $250,000 Position: Investigator
h.. Project Title: Gastrointestinal Tract Uptake of Benzene in Drinking
Water, and Consequent Tissue and Fetal Retention. Agency: Toxic Substance
Research and Teaching Program, University of California, Davis Duration: 12
months (1986-1987) Amount: $50,000 Position: Co-PI
i.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors at Trace
Levels. Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A3-132-33
Duration: 18 months (1984-1986) Amount: $140,000 Position: Investigator
j.. Project Title: Toxicity and Toxicokinetics of Vanadium in Rodents.
Agency: United States Department of Energy Duration: 72 months (1981-1987)
Position: Co-PI
k.. Project Title: Studies of Biological Behavior of Pu-241 and Am-241
in Rat, Dog, and Primate. Agency: United States Department of Energy
Duration: 72 months (1980-1986) Position: Investigator
l.. Project Title: Respiratory Tract Deposition of Inhaled Aerosols in
Small Rodents. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency
Duration: 60 months (1980-1985) Amount:$500,000 Position: Investigator
Professional Experience And Service


2001-Present - Forensic adviser for the defence in the Yurko court case.


1997-Present President, Toxicologist and Pathologist Toxi-Health
International 150 Bloom Dr., Dixon, CA 95620


March, 2000- August, 2001 Department of Molecular Biology Research project
to test the antifibrotic effects of Pirfenidone in rat-V-Kidney Fibrosis
model


1996-June, 1997 Toxicology Information Specialist and Outreach Coordinator,
Center for Environmental Health Sciences. University of California Davis,
Davis, CA 95616


1991-1996 Assistant Research Toxicologist. Institute of Toxicology &
Environmental Health University of California Davis, Davis, CA 95616


1991-1996 Member of Review Board Bulletin of Environmental Contamination and
Toxicology.


1991-1992 Served as faculty advisor for 72 undergraduate students of various
academic disciplines. (5-10 hours per week) University of California Davis,
Davis, CA 95616


1986-1990 Staff Research Associate IV, Toxicologist Institute of Toxicology
& Environmental Health University of California Davis, Davis, CA 95616


1979-1986 Staff Research Associate II, Toxicologist Institute of Toxicology
and Environmental Health University of California Davis, Davis, CA 95616


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Memberships & Associations
Society of Toxicology
American Board of Toxicology
American Board of Veterinary Toxicology
American Association for the Advancement of Science
American Chemical Society
American Lung Association
Editorial Board, Bulletin of Environmental Contamination and
Toxicology


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Patent
U.S. PATENT NUMBER: 5,686,217 PATENT DATE: NOVEMBER 11, 1997 USE OF
BIOMARKERS IN SALIVA TO EVALUATE THE TOXICITY OF AGENTS AND THE FUNCTIONS OF
TISSUES IN BOTH BIOMEDICAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL ALLPLICATIONS.
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Articles


1982 Wei, C. I., M. A. Al-Bayati, M. R. Culbertson, L. S. Rosenblatt, and L.
D. Hansen. Acute toxicity of ammonium metavanadate in mice. Journal of
Toxicology and Environmental Health 10: 673-687.


1984 Raabe, O. G., M. A. Al-Bayati, F. Gielow, J. P. Schreider, and N.
J.Parks. Studies of the distribution in beagles of Pu-241 after
intratracheal instillation of ultrafine insoluble particles. Health Physics
47:210.


1987 Knaak, J. B., J. Schreider, O. G. Raabe, M. A.Al-Bayati and B. W.
Wilson. The percutaneous absorption of oxidazan in the adult female rat. In:
Pesticide Science and Biotechnology. Greenhalgn, R. and Roberts, T. R.
(eds.), Blackwell Scientific Publications, pp. 545-548.


1987 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, F. Gielow, and O. G. Raabe. Safety
related to exposu Dermal dose-red cell cholinesterase response curves for
Ethoprop and Mocap 6 EC. Bulletin of Environmental Contamination Toxicology
38: 834-839, Springer-Verlag New York Inc.


l988 Raabe, O. G., M. A. Al-Bayati, S. Teague, and A. Rasolt. Regional
deposition of inhaled monodisperse coarse and fine particles in small
laboratory animals. Annals of Occupational Hygiene 32(1): 53-63.


1989 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, O. G. Raabe, J. L. Wiedmann, J. W.
Pensyl, J. H. Ross, A. P. Leber, and P. Jones. Mixer-loader-applicator
exposure and percutaneous absorption studies involving EPTC herbicide.
Chapter 22. In: Biological Monitoring for Pesticide Exposu Measurement,
Estimation,and Risk Reduction, Wang, R. G. M., C. A. Franklin, R. C.
Honeycut, and J. C. Reinert (eds.), American Chemical Society, Washington,
DC., pp. 288-303.


1989 Al-Bayati, M. A., S. N. Giri, O. G. Raabe, L. S. Rosenblatt, and M.
Shifrine. Time and dose-response study of the effects of vanadate on rats:
Morphological and Biochemical changes in organs. Journal of Environmental
Pathology, Toxicology and Oncology 9(5): 435-455.


1990 Al-Bayati, M. A., S. N. Giri and O. G. Raabe. Time and dose-response
study of the effects of vanadate on rats: Changes in blood cells and serum
elements. Journal of Environmental Pathology, Toxicology, and Oncology
10(4-5): 206-213.


1990 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, O. G. Raabe, and J. N. Blancato. In vivo
percutaneous absorption studies in rat: Pharmacokinetics and modeling of
isofenphos absorption. In: Prediction of Percutaneous Penetration: Methods,
Measurements, and Modelling. Scott, R. C. (ed), IBC Technical, England.


1991 Al-Bayati, M. A., O. G. Raabe, S. N. Giri, and J. B. Knaak.
Distribution of vanadate in rat following subcutaneous and oral exposure.
Journal of the American College of Toxicology 10(2): 233-241.


1992 Al-Bayati, M. A., M. R. Culbertson, J. P. Schreider, L. S. Rosenblatt,
and O. G. Raabe. The lymphotoxic action of vanadate. Journal of
Environmental Pathology, Toxicology, and Oncology, Volume II, No.2.


1992 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati and O. G. Raabe. Physiologically-based
pharmacokinetics modeling to predict tissue dose and cholinesterase
inhibition in workers exposed to organophosphorus and carbamate pesticides.
In: Health Risk Assessment Through Dermal and Inhalation Exposure and
Absorption of Toxicant, G.M. Wang, J.B. Knaak, and HI Maibach (eds.). CRC
Press, Boca Raton, FL.


1992 Mohammed A. Al-Bayati, Otto G. Raabe, and Stephen V. Teague. Effect of
inhaled dimethylselenide in the Fischer 344 male rat. Journal of Toxicology
and Environmental Health 37:549-557.


1993 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, O. G. Raabe, J.N. Blancato. Development
of in vitro Vmax and Km Values for the metabolism of isofenphos by P-450
liver enzymes in animals and human. Toxicology and Applied Pharmacology
120:106-113.


1993 Sidney M. Gospe, Jr. and Al-Bayati, M. A. Comparison of oral and
inhalation exposures to toluene. American College of Toxicology, 13(1):
21-32.


1994 Raabe, O. G., D. W. Wilson, M. A. Al-Bayati, W. J. Hornof and L. S.
Rosenblatt. Biological effects of inhaled pollutant aerosols. Ann. Occup.
Hyg. Vol. 38 Supplement 1. pp. 323-330.


1994 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, O. G. Raabe, and J. N. Blancato.
Prediction of anticholinesterase activity and urinary metabolites of
isofenphos: Use of apercutaneous physiologically based
pharmacokinetic-physiologically based pharmacodynamic model. In: Biomarkers
of Human Exposure to Pesticides, Chapter 17, Saleh, MA, Blancato, JN, and
Nauman, CH (eds.). American Chemical Society Symposium Series 542,
Washington, D.C.


1995 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, and O. G. Raabe. Development of
partition coefficients, Vmax and Km values, and allometric relationships.
Toxicology letters 79, 87-98.


1995 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, O. G. Raabe, and J. N. Blancato. Use of
a multiple pathway and multiroute PBPK model for predicting OP toxicity: In
American Chemical Society Symposium: Field Application of Biomarkers for
Agrochemicals. April 3-7, Anaheim, CA.


1996 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, O. G. Raabe, and J. N. Blancato. Use of
a multiple pathway and multiroute PBPK model for predicting OP toxicity:
Field Application of Biomarkers for Agrochemicals. In American Chemical
Society Symposium Series 643, Washington, D.C., pp.206-228


1996 Raabe, O.G. and Al-Bayati, M.A. Distribution and retention of inhaled
vanadium on inert airborne particles. Ann. Occup. Hyg., Vol.41, supplement
1.


1999Mohammed Ali Al-Bayati. Get All The Facts: HIV Does Not Cause AIDS.
Toxi-Health International, Dixon, CA [ISBN 0-9673536-0-2]


2002 Mohammed Ali Al-Bayati. HIV Does Not Cause AIDS, letter to the editor
of The British Medical Journal. January 30, 2002


2002 Al-Bayati, MA. AIDS in Africa is Caused by Starvation and Medications.
The British Medical Journal, March 7, 2002


2002 Al-Bayati, MA. Keep The Dentist Working: HIV Does Not Cause AIDS. The
British Medical Journal March 15, 2002 .


2002 Al-Bayati, MA. Stop Giving People Toxic Drugs: HIV Does Not Cause AIDS.
The British Medical Journal, April 4, 2002.


2002 Al-Bayati, MA. Do Not Give Your Soldiers Toxic Drugs: HIV Does Not
Cause AIDS. The British Medical Journal, April 4, 2002.


2002 Mohammed Ali Al-Bayati, Yan Xie, F. Charles Mohr, solomon B. Margolin,
Shri N. Giri. Effect of Pirfenidone Aganist Vanadate-Induced Kidney Fibrosis
in Rats. Biochemical Pharmacology ( In Press).


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Reports


1987 Raabe and Al-Bayati, M.A. Gastrointetinal-tract Uptake of Benzene in
drinking water in rats. Submitted to the University of California Toxic
Substance and Teaching Program, Davis, CA.


1988 Raabe, O.G. Knaak, J.B. , Al-Bayati, M.A., Uyeminami, D., and Gielow,
F. Development of Multiple Route Compound Pharmacokinetic Models:
Development of a physiological Pharmacokinetic Model for an Organophosphate:
isofenphos. Submitted to Exposure Assessment group, USEPA, Wahington, DC.
September 20, 1988.


1988 Raabe, O.G., Al-Bayati, M.A., Gielow, F., Teague, S., and Uyeminami.
Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors by People. Submitted to the
Biological effects Research Section, California Air Resources Board,
SACRAMENTO, California (CARB Contract NO. A5-155-33). March 1988.


1992 Raabe, O.G., Al-Bayati, M.A., Shulec, P.D., Gielow, F., Uyeminami, and
N. Shimasaki. Dermal Absorption of Methanol and methanol/Gasoline Mixtures.
Submitted to the Biological effects Research Section, california Air
Resources Board, Sacramento, California (CARB Contract NO. A933-186).
December 1992.


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Presentations And Abstracts
1978 Shehata, H. A., A. A. Hegazy, and M. A. Al-Bayati. Histopathological
and histochemical studies in adrenal gland of buffalo in case of cystic and
inactive ovaries. X World Congress of Buiatrics, Aug. 16-19. Mexico.
1984 Raabe, O. G., M. A. Al-Bayati, F. Gielow, J. P. Schreider, and N.
J.Parks. Studies of the distribution in beagles after intratracheal
instillation as ultrafine insoluble particles. Presented at the Health
Physics Society Annual Meeting, June. New Orleans, LA.


1985 Raabe, O. G., M. A. Al-Bayati, and F. Gielow. Metabolism of Pu-241 in
beagles and non-human primates after intratracheal instillation of ultrafine
insoluble particles. Presented at the Health Physics Society Annual Meeting,
May. Chicago, IL,.


1988 Al-Bayati, M. A., S. N. Giri, O. G. Raabe, M. Shifrine, and L.
S.Rosenblatt. Chronic renal toxicity of vanadium in rat. FASEB Meeting , May
1. Las Vegas, Nevada, USA,.


1988 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, and O. G. Raabe. Study on the
pharmacokinetics and toxicity of isofenphos in rat. FASEB Meeting, May 1.
Las Vegas, Nevada, USA,.


1990 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, O. G. Raabe, and J. N. Blancato. In
vitro metabolism of isofenphos by human and animal liver. American Chemical
Society Meeting, April 22-27. Boston, MA.


1992 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, O. G. Raabe, and J. N. Blancato.
Prediction of anticholinesterase activity and urinary metabolites of
isofenphos: Use of a percutaneous physiologically based pharmacokinetic-
physiologically based pharmacodynamic model. American Chemical Society
Meeting, August 23-28. Washington, D.C.


1993 Knaak, J. B., M. A. Al-Bayati, O. G. Raabe, and J. N. Blancato.
Development of in vitro Vmax and Km values for the metabolism of isofenphos
by P-450 liver enzymes in animals and human. Society of Toxicology 32nd
Annual Meeting, March 14-18, New Orleans, Louisiana.


1994 M. A. Al-Bayati, J.B. Knaak, O. G. Raabe, and J. N. Blancato. The
effects of enzyme inducers and inhibitors on the metabolism of isofenphos by
rat liver P450 enzymes. Society of Toxicology 33th Annual Meeting, March
13-18, Dallas, Texas.


1995 M. A. Al-Bayati, J.B. Knaak, O. G. Raabe, and J. N. Blancato. Toxicity
and Pharmacokinetics of Isofenphos in Male Guinea Pig. Society of Toxicology
34th Annual Meeting, March 5-9. Baltimore, Maryland.


2001 Al-Bayati MA,Xie Y,Mohr CF,Margolin SB,Giri SN. Amelioration of
Vanadium Induced Kidney Fibrosis by Pirfenidone in Rats. Society of
Toxicology 40 th AnnualMeeting, March 25-30. San Francisco, California.







The *gang* has done all the usual name calling because this is all
*OUTSIDE*
of their belief system.


That a child who comes to the hospital with lungs full of pneumocystis
carinii and has a respiratory arrest and dies, has died of pneumocystis
pneumonia, is a *belief system*? Why yes, I guess it is. Maybe she
died of voodoo. Maybe she died of a microbe which nobody ever found in
her, like B19. One pulled out of a hat. One that doesn't cause symptoms
like hers. Maybe she died of a sudden and fatal allergic reaction to
the first dose of a drug she'd never had before.

Would all these be YOUR belief system? Apparently they are part of Dr.
Mohammed al-Bayati's belief system. A doofus, as I said.

SBH

The above proves you wrong.

"JanD" wrote:


"Peter Bowditch" wrote

[snip diversion + proven lying websites + inmate #]

That was Jan telling me that she trusts some PhD toxicologists and not
others.

Inmate number?


"JanD" wrote:


"Robert" wrote in message
.. .

"JanD" wrote in message
news:f8Skf.597397$x96.306475@attbi_s72...
You snipped his background, Robert.

Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing.

Robert,

In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a
toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST!


--
Peter Bowdit

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

"JanD" wrote in message
news:0P3lf.382276$084.232715@attbi_s22...

"Robert" wrote in message
...

"JanD" wrote in message
news:f8Skf.597397$x96.306475@attbi_s72...
You snipped his background, Robert.

Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing.

Robert,

In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a
toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST!

You don't need to have a license for "projects". What is his license to
practice as a professional in his state, he needs a license.
You don't need a license in academic research because you are not
responsible to anybodies health.
Understand this. He is not a licensed pathologist under any definition of
licensure by any given state.

a.. Project Title: Quantitative Evaluation of Serum Chemistry, Hematology
and Pathological Parameters in Dog, Sheep, and Pig Exposed To Whole Body
Irradiation. Agency: AMGEN Pharmaceutical Inc. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320.
Duration: 30 months (1993-1995); Amount: $254,778; Functions: PI,
toxicologist, and pathologist.
b.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic
Toxicant and Carcinogens. Agency: United States Environmental Protection
Agency. Duration: 48 months (1990-1995); Amount: $980,000; Functions:
Co-PI,
toxicologist, and pathologist.
c.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic
Toxicant. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency; Duration:
36 months (1987-1990); Amount: $240,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist,
and
pathologist.
d.. Project Title: Dermal Absorption of Methanol and Gasoline/Methanol
Mixtures. Agency: California Air Resources Board. Duration: 18 months
(7/90-12/91); Amount: $84,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
e.. Project Title: Toxicity of the Inhaled Dimethylselenide in Adult
Rat.
Agency: University of California, Riverside. Duration: 12 months
(07/87-07/88); Amount: $70,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
f.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors in People.
Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A5-155-33. Duration:
18
months (1986-1987); Amount: $150,000; Functions: Investigator,
toxicologist,
and pathologist.
g.. Project Title: Effects of Airborne Particulate Matter. Agency:
California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A4-133-33. Duration: 24
months
(1985-1987); Amount: $250,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
h.. Project Title: Gastrointestinal Tract Uptake of Benzene in Drinking
Water, and Consequent Tissue and Fetal Retention. Agency: Toxic Substance
Research and Teaching Program, University of California, Davis. Function:
12
months (1986-1987); Amount: $50,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
i.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors at Trace
Levels.
Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A3-132-33. Duration:
18
months (1984-1986); Amount: $140,000; Functions: Investigator,
toxicologist,
and pathologist.
j.. Project Title: Toxicity and Toxicokinetics of Vanadium in Rodents.
Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months
(1981-1987);
Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist.
k.. Project Title: Studies of Biological Behavior of Pu-241 and Am-241
in
Rat, Dog, and Primate. Agency: United States Department of Energy.
Duration:
72 months (1980-1986); Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
l.. Project Title: Respiratory Tract Deposition of Inhaled Aerosols in
Small Rodents. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency.
Duration: 60 months (1980-1985); Amount: $500,000; Functions:
Investigator,
toxicologist, and pathologist.
Dr. Al-Bayati holds U.S. Patent number 5,686,237 dated November 11, 1997
for
Use of biomarkers in saliva to evaluate the toxicity of agents and the
functions of tissues in both biomedical and environmental applications.

"JanD" wrote in message
news:VY9lf.605554$_o.9254@attbi_s71...


Just ask him what he has a license in and tell him to stop clowning around
pretending he is an expert in something he knows very little about.

JanD wrote:
"Robert" wrote in message
...

"JanD" wrote in message
news:f8Skf.597397$x96.306475@attbi_s72...

You snipped his background, Robert.

Your *organized medicine* brain washing is showing.


Robert,

In ALL of this projects the United Stated considered him to be both a
toxicologist AND a PATHOLOGIST!

But not a forensic pathologist. Try reading this:

What is a forensic pathologist?
Forensic pathology is a specialized area of pathology. The forensic
pathologist performs autopsies to determine the cause and manner of
death in situations falling under the jurisdiction of the local medical
examiner or coroner. These situations include, however, are not limited
to violent deaths such as homicides, accidents, and suicides. Other
categories are suspicious deaths, sudden and expected deaths, deaths in
children and infants, prisoners, persons under the care of an
institution, situations where illicit drugs or alcohol may have
contributed to the death, deaths occurring during or in close proximity
to a surgical procedure, deaths in individuals not under the care of a
physician or when the private physician is unable or unwilling to
certify the death certificate, and deaths when there is suspicion of a
public health threat. Many persons fail to realize that approximately
half of the deaths examined by the forensic pathologist are natural
deaths occurring in the absence of injury. The forensic pathologist is
also an expert witness in the court of law, testifying in a variety of
civil and criminal cases involving death or injury.

http://www.forensiconline.com/generallink.htm#a9

A *FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST* is uniquely qualified to render an opinion on
the cause of death, moreso than any other discipline in pathology.

You may also want to see the nature of the training of the forensic
pathologist and compare it to al-Bayati's. There is NO comparison.






a.. Project Title: Quantitative Evaluation of Serum Chemistry, Hematology
and Pathological Parameters in Dog, Sheep, and Pig Exposed To Whole Body
Irradiation. Agency: AMGEN Pharmaceutical Inc. Thousand Oaks, CA 91320.
Duration: 30 months (1993-1995); Amount: $254,778; Functions: PI,
toxicologist, and pathologist.
b.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic
Toxicant and Carcinogens. Agency: United States Environmental Protection
Agency. Duration: 48 months (1990-1995); Amount: $980,000; Functions: Co-PI,
toxicologist, and pathologist.
c.. Project Title: Improved Models of Risk for Exposure to Organic
Toxicant. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency; Duration:
36 months (1987-1990); Amount: $240,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
d.. Project Title: Dermal Absorption of Methanol and Gasoline/Methanol
Mixtures. Agency: California Air Resources Board. Duration: 18 months
(7/90-12/91); Amount: $84,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
e.. Project Title: Toxicity of the Inhaled Dimethylselenide in Adult Rat.
Agency: University of California, Riverside. Duration: 12 months
(07/87-07/88); Amount: $70,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
f.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors in People.
Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A5-155-33. Duration: 18
months (1986-1987); Amount: $150,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist,
and pathologist.
g.. Project Title: Effects of Airborne Particulate Matter. Agency:
California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A4-133-33. Duration: 24 months
(1985-1987); Amount: $250,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
h.. Project Title: Gastrointestinal Tract Uptake of Benzene in Drinking
Water, and Consequent Tissue and Fetal Retention. Agency: Toxic Substance
Research and Teaching Program, University of California, Davis. Function: 12
months (1986-1987); Amount: $50,000; Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
i.. Project Title: Inhalation Uptake of Xenobiotic Vapors at Trace Levels.
Agency: California Air Resources Board; Contract No. A3-132-33. Duration: 18
months (1984-1986); Amount: $140,000; Functions: Investigator, toxicologist,
and pathologist.
j.. Project Title: Toxicity and Toxicokinetics of Vanadium in Rodents.
Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration: 72 months (1981-1987);
Functions: Co-PI, toxicologist, and pathologist.
k.. Project Title: Studies of Biological Behavior of Pu-241 and Am-241 in
Rat, Dog, and Primate. Agency: United States Department of Energy. Duration:
72 months (1980-1986); Functions: Investigator, toxicologist, and
pathologist.
l.. Project Title: Respiratory Tract Deposition of Inhaled Aerosols in
Small Rodents. Agency: United States Environmental Protection Agency.
Duration: 60 months (1980-1985); Amount: $500,000; Functions: Investigator,
toxicologist, and pathologist.
Dr. Al-Bayati holds U.S. Patent number 5,686,237 dated November 11, 1997 for
Use of biomarkers in saliva to evaluate the toxicity of agents and the
functions of tissues in both biomedical and environmental applications.





So are you seeking opinions from those that are not *organized medicine*?
Why present his *organized medical* credentials?
He has a Masters in Vet science and a PhD in toxicology right?


Regarding my own background, in the past six years I have written
approximately 80 medical reports in defense of parents whom I believed to
have been falsely accused of violent physical child abuse, largely

involving

charges of SBS. With few exceptions in these cases, I have observed a
troubling pattern of abandonment of the usual thoroughness one finds in
medical centers once suspicions of SBS were raised. In most cases that I
have reviewed, in my opinion, there have been varying degrees of

negligence

in working through differential diagnoses, sometimes missing the most
obvious of alternate non-traumatic causes.

After autopsy? What does SBS have to do with that case of pneumonia?


In the present case of the autopsy report on Eliza Jane Scovill, in

my

It has nothing to do with SBS.


opinion, there is a similar pattern; that is, diagnostic assumptions have
been made based on superficial evaluation with little if any attempt to
investigate other possible causes of the child's three-week illness
culminating in death.

An autopsy is superficial?


Regarding Dr. Al-Bayati, I consider him to be a master craftsman in

a

broad field of medical expertise.

There is no such thing as a master of a broad field of medical expertise.
What in the world does that mean?
There is no such thing as a general expert. Expertise is limiting by
nature.

His workups are exhaustive and meticulous,

yet plainly written so as to be accessible to reasonably educated
non-medical people. He makes no statements or claims that he does not
document in the medical literature.

He has no hands on experience or expertise as far as I can tell. What does
he do daily? Toxicology?

In the case of Eliza Jane Scovill, I first reviewed the autopsy
report, which did in fact give rise to personal concerns and doubts.
However, after going through Dr. Al-Bayati's report point-by-point, he
put
all doubts to rest. There is no question in my mind that his report
accurately describes the true causes in the death of Eliza Jane Scovill.

Harold E Buttram, MD, FAAEM
Quakertown, PA, USA

If he reviewed it then why isn't it he who is called? I think the answer
is
obvious why that isn't the case.


Comments from Dr. Andrew Maniotis
Dr. Maniotis is a Professor of Pathology and Program Director in the Cell
and Developmental Biology of Cancer at the University of Illinois at
Chicago.

November 21st 2005

This is a PhD who works for the Department of Pathology and is a Professor
of Pathology but is not a pathologist who is an MD and determines cause of
death. These are specialized PhD's who do research within a narrow branch
of
research.
They have no medical training and no clinical or anatomical pathology
training.
They can not be medical directors of any clinical laboratory by federal or
state law.
They are great for very specific topics that pertain to their area of
study.
You have to ask him if he considers himself a pathologist.