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Old October 18th 07, 06:02 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,alt.health
bigvince
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Default A pediatrician learns the hard way about vaccine injuries.

Sunday, September 16, 2007
Doctors Need To Be Educated and Held Accountable
The VAERS database is replete with thousands of reports of vaccine
injuries. Here is one about Gardasil, the new HPV (cervical cancer)
vaccine filed on June 27, 2007 by a parent who is a pediatrician (MD,
FAAP). Her first-hand account of the reaction that happened to her 11-
year-old daughter speaks volumes:



"Within minutes of receiving the HPV vaccination and a DTaP booster
yesterday afternoon, my daughter complained of numbness extending down
her right arm (HPV vaccination site) to her finger tips. She then
noted tingling in her other hand and both of her feet. She was sitting
in the waiting area at this time. I noted that her lips looked pale. I
had her put her head in her lap. After a minute or so, she sat back up
and her lips were redder. She remained a bit woozy for the following
hour or so. Pain and discomfort in her right arm continued over the
next several hours. I treated her with 400mg Advil when we got home
about 2 hours after the vaccine. She continued to complain of pain and
stiffness in her right arm throughout the evening last night. Today
her right arm is better and her left arm (DTaP site) is more painful.
As a pediatrician myself (MD, FAAP), I was very concerned when I saw
the incidence of syncope being reported with the HPV vaccine. I spoke
with a friend who has her PhD in child psychology. She does not think
'adolescence' is an appropriate excuse for this adverse reaction. I
won't be giving my daughter the remaining doses until more has been
studied regarding this reaction."

COMMENT: Here's a physician-parent (not sure if this was a mom or a
dad) who didn't even read the package insert about giving Gardasil to
her daughter at the same time as another vaccine. The insert clearly
states, "Results from clinical studies indicate that Gardasil may be
administered concomitantly (at a separate injection site) with
hepatitis B vaccine (recombinant). Co-administration [and safety] of
injecting Gardasil with other vaccines has not been studied."

So, ignorance, or perhaps laziness, prevailed and the parent allowed
her daughter to be an experiment. Doctors have an illusion that
vaccines are "safe, protective and cause no harm." This doctor risked
her daughter's health: It appears the daughter's immune system aborted
the onset of what could have become full-blown Guillian-Barre syndrome
with long-term paralysis. This doctor was willing to risk his
daughter's life by giving this vaccine. By mid-July, 2007, the number
of reported reactions from Gardasil had risen to 2,207, including five
deaths as a result of this vaccine.

This parent-pediatrician states "I won't give the remaining doses to
her daughter." I wonder if s/he will continue to vaccinate other
children? I wonder what s/he will tell other moms who come to her
office requesting Gardasil for their pre-teen daughters? I wonder if
this scary episode will prompt this parent-pediatrician to do his
homework and investigate other vaccine reactions children are no doubt
having that are being dismissed as "normal"?
http://sayingnotovaccines.blogspot.c...1_archive.html

As the story notes " COMMENT: Here's a physician-parent (not sure if
this was a mom or a dad) who didn't even read the package insert about
giving Gardasil to her daughter at the same time as another vaccine.
The insert clearly states, "Results from clinical studies indicate
that Gardasil may be administered concomitantly (at a separate
injection site) with hepatitis B vaccine (recombinant). Co-
administration [and safety] of injecting Gardasil with other vaccines
has not been studied'

Thanks Vince

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Old October 18th 07, 06:06 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,alt.health
Jeff
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Default A pediatrician learns the hard way about vaccine injuries.

No lasting effects from this anecdote, yet, there are lasting effects
from cervical cancer.

Jeff
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Old October 18th 07, 06:40 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,alt.health
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Default A pediatrician learns the hard way about vaccine injuries.

On Oct 18, 1:06 pm, Jeff wrote:
No lasting effects from this anecdote, yet, there are lasting effects
from cervical cancer.

Jeff


How many anecdotes does it take to make a plague?

DrCee
Not a member of the medical monopoly
Not a member of the church of modern medicine

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Old October 18th 07, 10:12 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,alt.health
Peter Moran[_3_]
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Default A pediatrician learns the hard way about vaccine injuries.


"bigvince" wrote in message
ups.com...
Sunday, September 16, 2007
Doctors Need To Be Educated and Held Accountable
The VAERS database is replete with thousands of reports of vaccine
injuries. Here is one about Gardasil, the new HPV (cervical cancer)
vaccine filed on June 27, 2007 by a parent who is a pediatrician (MD,
FAAP). Her first-hand account of the reaction that happened to her 11-
year-old daughter speaks volumes:



"Within minutes of receiving the HPV vaccination and a DTaP booster
yesterday afternoon, my daughter complained of numbness extending down
her right arm (HPV vaccination site) to her finger tips. She then
noted tingling in her other hand and both of her feet. She was sitting
in the waiting area at this time. I noted that her lips looked pale. I
had her put her head in her lap. After a minute or so, she sat back up
and her lips were redder. She remained a bit woozy for the following
hour or so. Pain and discomfort in her right arm continued over the
next several hours. I treated her with 400mg Advil when we got home
about 2 hours after the vaccine. She continued to complain of pain and
stiffness in her right arm throughout the evening last night. Today
her right arm is better and her left arm (DTaP site) is more painful.
As a pediatrician myself (MD, FAAP), I was very concerned when I saw
the incidence of syncope being reported with the HPV vaccine. I spoke
with a friend who has her PhD in child psychology. She does not think
'adolescence' is an appropriate excuse for this adverse reaction. I
won't be giving my daughter the remaining doses until more has been
studied regarding this reaction."

COMMENT: Here's a physician-parent (not sure if this was a mom or a
dad) who didn't even read the package insert about giving Gardasil to
her daughter at the same time as another vaccine. The insert clearly
states, "Results from clinical studies indicate that Gardasil may be
administered concomitantly (at a separate injection site) with
hepatitis B vaccine (recombinant). Co-administration [and safety] of
injecting Gardasil with other vaccines has not been studied."

So, ignorance, or perhaps laziness, prevailed and the parent allowed
her daughter to be an experiment. Doctors have an illusion that
vaccines are "safe, protective and cause no harm." This doctor risked
her daughter's health: It appears the daughter's immune system aborted
the onset of what could have become full-blown Guillian-Barre syndrome
with long-term paralysis.


What a ridiculous claim! The vaccine would not have even been absorbed
yet!

Fainting (syncope) after needles of any kind, not just vaccines, is very
common -- the sight of blood is enough to induce a faint in some people.
The other neurological symptoms described may be from the needle hitting a
nerve, or from hyperventilation.

So-called "vaccine complications" are an argument for better injection
technique, not an argument against potentially life-saving vaccinations.

PM

This doctor was willing to risk his
daughter's life by giving this vaccine. By mid-July, 2007, the number
of reported reactions from Gardasil had risen to 2,207, including five
deaths as a result of this vaccine.

This parent-pediatrician states "I won't give the remaining doses to
her daughter." I wonder if s/he will continue to vaccinate other
children? I wonder what s/he will tell other moms who come to her
office requesting Gardasil for their pre-teen daughters? I wonder if
this scary episode will prompt this parent-pediatrician to do his
homework and investigate other vaccine reactions children are no doubt
having that are being dismissed as "normal"?
http://sayingnotovaccines.blogspot.c...1_archive.html

As the story notes " COMMENT: Here's a physician-parent (not sure if
this was a mom or a dad) who didn't even read the package insert about
giving Gardasil to her daughter at the same time as another vaccine.
The insert clearly states, "Results from clinical studies indicate
that Gardasil may be administered concomitantly (at a separate
injection site) with hepatitis B vaccine (recombinant). Co-
administration [and safety] of injecting Gardasil with other vaccines
has not been studied'

Thanks Vince


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Old October 19th 07, 12:30 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,alt.health
Bryan Heit
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Default A pediatrician learns the hard way about vaccine injuries.

Peter Moran wrote:
"bigvince" wrote in message
ups.com...
Sunday, September 16, 2007
Doctors Need To Be Educated and Held Accountable
The VAERS database is replete with thousands of reports of vaccine
injuries. Here is one about Gardasil, the new HPV (cervical cancer)
vaccine filed on June 27, 2007 by a parent who is a pediatrician (MD,
FAAP). Her first-hand account of the reaction that happened to her 11-
year-old daughter speaks volumes:



"Within minutes of receiving the HPV vaccination and a DTaP booster
yesterday afternoon, my daughter complained of numbness extending down
her right arm (HPV vaccination site) to her finger tips. She then
noted tingling in her other hand and both of her feet. She was sitting
in the waiting area at this time. I noted that her lips looked pale. I
had her put her head in her lap. After a minute or so, she sat back up
and her lips were redder. She remained a bit woozy for the following
hour or so. Pain and discomfort in her right arm continued over the
next several hours. I treated her with 400mg Advil when we got home
about 2 hours after the vaccine. She continued to complain of pain and
stiffness in her right arm throughout the evening last night. Today
her right arm is better and her left arm (DTaP site) is more painful.
As a pediatrician myself (MD, FAAP), I was very concerned when I saw
the incidence of syncope being reported with the HPV vaccine. I spoke
with a friend who has her PhD in child psychology. She does not think
'adolescence' is an appropriate excuse for this adverse reaction. I
won't be giving my daughter the remaining doses until more has been
studied regarding this reaction."

COMMENT: Here's a physician-parent (not sure if this was a mom or a
dad) who didn't even read the package insert about giving Gardasil to
her daughter at the same time as another vaccine. The insert clearly
states, "Results from clinical studies indicate that Gardasil may be
administered concomitantly (at a separate injection site) with
hepatitis B vaccine (recombinant). Co-administration [and safety] of
injecting Gardasil with other vaccines has not been studied."

So, ignorance, or perhaps laziness, prevailed and the parent allowed
her daughter to be an experiment. Doctors have an illusion that
vaccines are "safe, protective and cause no harm." This doctor risked
her daughter's health: It appears the daughter's immune system aborted
the onset of what could have become full-blown Guillian-Barre syndrome
with long-term paralysis.


What a ridiculous claim! The vaccine would not have even been absorbed
yet!

Fainting (syncope) after needles of any kind, not just vaccines, is very
common -- the sight of blood is enough to induce a faint in some people.
The other neurological symptoms described may be from the needle hitting a
nerve, or from hyperventilation.

So-called "vaccine complications" are an argument for better injection
technique, not an argument against potentially life-saving vaccinations.

PM


The fact that the author thinks that the immune system can prevent
Guillian-Barre syndrome (an autoimmune disorder) tells us just how
****-poor their knowledge of the immune system is. It would be funny,
if people didn't take authors like this so seriously.

Bryan
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Old October 19th 07, 12:51 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,alt.health
bigvince
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Default A pediatrician learns the hard way about vaccine injuries.

On Oct 18, 1:06 pm, Jeff wrote:
No lasting effects from this anecdote, yet, there are lasting effects
from cervical cancer.

Jeff


So Jeff you think it okay to inject 12 year old girls in a way that
has not been studied.Sort of the pay now worry about damage later
attitute I'd expect. Turn 12 year olds into live subjects without any
concern. Even the label notes

COMMENT: Here's a physician-parent (not sure if this was a mom or a
dad) who didn't even read the package insert about giving Gardasil to
her daughter at the same time as another vaccine. The insert clearly
states, "Results from clinical studies indicate that Gardasil may be
administered concomitantly (at a separate injection site) with
hepatitis B vaccine (recombinant). Co-administration [and safety] of
injecting Gardasil with other vaccines has not been studied."

Jeff I guess you have about 3 billion reasons to avoid any caution.

Thanks Vince

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Old October 19th 07, 12:56 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,alt.health
Jeff
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Default A pediatrician learns the hard way about vaccine injuries.

bigvince wrote:
On Oct 18, 1:06 pm, Jeff wrote:
No lasting effects from this anecdote, yet, there are lasting effects
from cervical cancer.

Jeff


So Jeff you think it okay to inject 12 year old girls in a way that
has not been studied.Sort of the pay now worry about damage later
attitute I'd expect. Turn 12 year olds into live subjects without any
concern. Even the label notes


The vaccine has gone through several safety trials, has had a committee
of experts review the results of the safety trials and the trials that
show that it prevents an infection that results in cancer.

So your assertion that the vaccine has not been studied is incorrect.

You can go to www.cdc.gov and read about the trials (they are in the
recommendations and reports that are published with the Weekly Morbidity
and Mortality reports).

Have a lovely day.

Jeff
...
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Old October 19th 07, 04:40 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,alt.health
Mark Probert
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Default A pediatrician learns the hard way about vaccine injuries.

bigvince wrote:
On Oct 18, 1:06 pm, Jeff wrote:
No lasting effects from this anecdote, yet, there are lasting effects
from cervical cancer.

Jeff


So Jeff you think it okay to inject 12 year old girls in a way that
has not been studied.


It has been studied. Why lie?

Sort of the pay now worry about damage later
attitute I'd expect. Turn 12 year olds into live subjects without any
concern. Even the label notes

COMMENT: Here's a physician-parent (not sure if this was a mom or a
dad) who didn't even read the package insert about giving Gardasil to
her daughter at the same time as another vaccine. The insert clearly
states, "Results from clinical studies indicate that Gardasil may be
administered concomitantly (at a separate injection site) with
hepatitis B vaccine (recombinant). Co-administration [and safety] of
injecting Gardasil with other vaccines has not been studied."

Jeff I guess you have about 3 billion reasons to avoid any caution.

Thanks Vince

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Old October 19th 07, 06:16 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,alt.health
JOHN
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Default A pediatrician learns the hard way about vaccine injuries.


"Bryan Heit" wrote in message
...


The fact that the author thinks that the immune system can prevent
Guillian-Barre syndrome (an autoimmune disorder) tells us just how
****-poor their knowledge of the immune system is. It would be funny, if
people didn't take authors like this so seriously.

Bryan


GBS, now didn't that first come about after swine flu vax
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gbs.htm


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Old October 19th 07, 08:54 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,alt.health
SanHolo
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Default A pediatrician learns the hard way about vaccine injuries.

On Oct 19, 7:16 am, "JOHN" wrote:

GBS, now didn't that first come about after swine flu vax
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/gbs.htm


Given that swine-flu vaccination was started after 1976, but GBS was
first described in 1916 and first called "Guillain-Barré Syndrome" in
1927, I'd answer this question with "no".

http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/1766.html

 




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