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Bad news for liars, good news for kids
State's autism rises despite vaccine change
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Autism cases in California continued to climb even after a mercury-rich vaccine preservative that some people blame for the neurological disorder was removed from routine childhood shots, a new study found. Researchers from the state Department of Public Health found the autism rate in children rose continuously during the 12-year study period from 1995 to 2007. The preservative thimerosal hasn't been used in childhood vaccines since 2001, but is used in some flu shots. Doctors say the latest study adds to existing evidence refuting a link between thimerosal exposure and autism risk and should reassure parents that the disorder is not caused by vaccinations. If there was a risk, they said, autism rates should have dropped between 2004 and 2007. .... http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/01/07....ap/index.html Another take on it at: Mercury-vaccine link to autism disproven: study CHICAGO (Reuters) - A new study provides more proof that childhood vaccines with mercury as a preservative -- no longer on the market -- did not cause autism, researchers reported on Monday. The findings came from a look at children diagnosed with autism in California from 1995 to 2007. It found that the number of autism cases continued to rise through that period even though the preservative thimerosal -- nearly half of which is made of ethylmercury -- was removed from most vaccines in 2001. .... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080107/...cinations_dc_1 And yes, I know that the second story contains the idiotic statement "thimerosal -- nearly half of which is made of ethylmercury". I can only assume that the "journalist" studied chemistry at the University of Kentucky (if at all). -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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On Jan 8, 12:09 am, Peter Bowditch wrote:
State's autism rises despite vaccine change snip And yes, I know that the second story contains the idiotic statement "thimerosal -- nearly half of which is made of ethylmercury". I can only assume that the "journalist" studied chemistry at the University of Kentucky (if at all). Having earned my medical degree from the University of Kentucky (and thankfully, never having encountered "Dr." Boyd Hayley), I can only state the obvious: nutjobs can crawl out of the woodwork anywhere. Aus has its Carole, Kentucky has its Boyd...even Costa Rica has its [wipe the slime from my keyboard] Ilena, and Indiana, home of James Dean, has its Jan. None of this means that Kentucky, Indiana, Costa Rica or Australia have lost all sensible thought. It just means that these places tolerate the cranks and the "problem children" rather than just stuffing them in a place where they would be relegated to jabbering at each other ad nauseum...we're a compassionate bunch, I should say. Let us celebrate our tolerance of those unfortunate enough to have been born lacking the gene that codes for rational thought. Let us pity these souls and take the high road. Surely, they are nincompoops and aggressive asses...they can't help it. Somewhere along the evolutionary line they missed the boat, the Good Ship Lolli-Sense. They can't help what they are. I think the best course is to tolerate their rants in much the same way an adult will watch a fit-throwing 2- year-old bang his head on the floor: you aren't going to make me get you another popsicle, and the sooner your head hurts, the sooner you will realize it. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraudhttp://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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"Mark" wrote in message
... On Jan 8, 12:09 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: State's autism rises despite vaccine change snip And yes, I know that the second story contains the idiotic statement "thimerosal -- nearly half of which is made of ethylmercury". I can only assume that the "journalist" studied chemistry at the University of Kentucky (if at all). Having earned my medical degree from the University of Kentucky (and thankfully, never having encountered "Dr." Boyd Hayley), I can only state the obvious: nutjobs can crawl out of the woodwork anywhere. Aus has its Carole, Kentucky has its Boyd...even Costa Rica has its [wipe the slime from my keyboard] Ilena, and Indiana, home of James Dean, has its Jan. None of this means that Kentucky, Indiana, Costa Rica or Australia have lost all sensible thought. It just means that these places tolerate the cranks and the "problem children" rather than just stuffing them in a place where they would be relegated to jabbering at each other ad nauseum...we're a compassionate bunch, I should say. Let us celebrate our tolerance of those unfortunate enough to have been born lacking the gene that codes for rational thought. Let us pity these souls and take the high road. Surely, they are nincompoops and aggressive asses...they can't help it. Somewhere along the evolutionary line they missed the boat, the Good Ship Lolli-Sense. They can't help what they are. I think the best course is to tolerate their rants in much the same way an adult will watch a fit-throwing 2- year-old bang his head on the floor: you aren't going to make me get you another popsicle, and the sooner your head hurts, the sooner you will realize it. Yes, we much-maligned "naysayers" have earned a little triumphalism, I think. Most people don't need any depth of knowledge about science or medicine. We can't blame them for that ---that is why we have scientists and why we have doctors, just as we have other kinds of specialists to build our homes and fly our planes. What we can fault some for is the arrogant assurance that their own half-baked medical beliefs are undoubtedly correct and their refusal to even look at overwhelmingly contrary evidence. The thiomerosal-autism things is only the latest of many dearly held alt theories that have been proved wrong, but that doesn't seem to register either.. PM |
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"Mark" wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 12:09 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: State's autism rises despite vaccine change snip And yes, I know that the second story contains the idiotic statement "thimerosal -- nearly half of which is made of ethylmercury". I can only assume that the "journalist" studied chemistry at the University of Kentucky (if at all). Having earned my medical degree from the University of Kentucky (and thankfully, never having encountered "Dr." Boyd Hayley), I can only state the obvious: nutjobs can crawl out of the woodwork anywhere. Aus has its Carole, Hey I resent that ... just watch who you call a nutjob. There's nothing unscientific about cellsalts, they've been a regular part of naturapathy and alternative medicine for 150 years. All you've got is a type of science that forbids innovation and suppresses therapies that can't be patented. And when you go to the doctor they can't really work out what's wrong with you to make you healthy, just which drugs you need. Carole www.cellsalts.net Kentucky has its Boyd...even Costa Rica has its [wipe the slime from my keyboard] Ilena, and Indiana, home of James Dean, has its Jan. None of this means that Kentucky, Indiana, Costa Rica or Australia have lost all sensible thought. It just means that these places tolerate the cranks and the "problem children" rather than just stuffing them in a place where they would be relegated to jabbering at each other ad nauseum...we're a compassionate bunch, I should say. Let us celebrate our tolerance of those unfortunate enough to have been born lacking the gene that codes for rational thought. Let us pity these souls and take the high road. Surely, they are nincompoops and aggressive asses...they can't help it. Somewhere along the evolutionary line they missed the boat, the Good Ship Lolli-Sense. They can't help what they are. I think the best course is to tolerate their rants in much the same way an adult will watch a fit-throwing 2- year-old bang his head on the floor: you aren't going to make me get you another popsicle, and the sooner your head hurts, the sooner you will realize it. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraudhttp://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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"Peter Moran" wrote in message ... "Mark" wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 12:09 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: State's autism rises despite vaccine change snip And yes, I know that the second story contains the idiotic statement "thimerosal -- nearly half of which is made of ethylmercury". I can only assume that the "journalist" studied chemistry at the University of Kentucky (if at all). Having earned my medical degree from the University of Kentucky (and thankfully, never having encountered "Dr." Boyd Hayley), I can only state the obvious: nutjobs can crawl out of the woodwork anywhere. Aus has its Carole, Kentucky has its Boyd...even Costa Rica has its [wipe the slime from my keyboard] Ilena, and Indiana, home of James Dean, has its Jan. None of this means that Kentucky, Indiana, Costa Rica or Australia have lost all sensible thought. It just means that these places tolerate the cranks and the "problem children" rather than just stuffing them in a place where they would be relegated to jabbering at each other ad nauseum...we're a compassionate bunch, I should say. Let us celebrate our tolerance of those unfortunate enough to have been born lacking the gene that codes for rational thought. Let us pity these souls and take the high road. Surely, they are nincompoops and aggressive asses...they can't help it. Somewhere along the evolutionary line they missed the boat, the Good Ship Lolli-Sense. They can't help what they are. I think the best course is to tolerate their rants in much the same way an adult will watch a fit-throwing 2- year-old bang his head on the floor: you aren't going to make me get you another popsicle, and the sooner your head hurts, the sooner you will realize it. Yes, we much-maligned "naysayers" have earned a little triumphalism, I think. Most people don't need any depth of knowledge about science or medicine. We can't blame them for that ---that is why we have scientists and why we have doctors, just as we have other kinds of specialists to build our homes and fly our planes. But the problem is the people become disempowered and aren't allowed to think for themselves. They are taught to defer to "experts" and "reliable sources" for everything which leaves them vulnerable. People should think for themselves because the experts aren't always right and often get used by vested interests to push for dubious purposes. What we can fault some for is the arrogant assurance that their own half-baked medical beliefs are undoubtedly correct and their refusal to even look at overwhelmingly contrary evidence. The thiomerosal-autism things is only the latest of many dearly held alt theories that have been proved wrong, but that doesn't seem to register either.. I haven't got "arrogant assurance", what I've got is reasoned belief rather than taking at face value everything from "experts" and "reliable sources" who are, either wittingly or unwittingly, serving the interests of various cartels, where science is twisted and incomplete with all concept of the ether being removed. In a world where knowledge is power, they prefer to keep the people in the dark -- so much easier to control that way. Carole www.cellsalts.net PM |
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Carole wrote:
"Peter Moran" wrote in message ... "Mark" wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 12:09 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: State's autism rises despite vaccine change snip And yes, I know that the second story contains the idiotic statement "thimerosal -- nearly half of which is made of ethylmercury". I can only assume that the "journalist" studied chemistry at the University of Kentucky (if at all). Having earned my medical degree from the University of Kentucky (and thankfully, never having encountered "Dr." Boyd Hayley), I can only state the obvious: nutjobs can crawl out of the woodwork anywhere. Aus has its Carole, Kentucky has its Boyd...even Costa Rica has its [wipe the slime from my keyboard] Ilena, and Indiana, home of James Dean, has its Jan. None of this means that Kentucky, Indiana, Costa Rica or Australia have lost all sensible thought. It just means that these places tolerate the cranks and the "problem children" rather than just stuffing them in a place where they would be relegated to jabbering at each other ad nauseum...we're a compassionate bunch, I should say. Let us celebrate our tolerance of those unfortunate enough to have been born lacking the gene that codes for rational thought. Let us pity these souls and take the high road. Surely, they are nincompoops and aggressive asses...they can't help it. Somewhere along the evolutionary line they missed the boat, the Good Ship Lolli-Sense. They can't help what they are. I think the best course is to tolerate their rants in much the same way an adult will watch a fit-throwing 2- year-old bang his head on the floor: you aren't going to make me get you another popsicle, and the sooner your head hurts, the sooner you will realize it. Yes, we much-maligned "naysayers" have earned a little triumphalism, I think. Most people don't need any depth of knowledge about science or medicine. We can't blame them for that ---that is why we have scientists and why we have doctors, just as we have other kinds of specialists to build our homes and fly our planes. But the problem is the people become disempowered and aren't allowed to think for themselves. Bull****. Everyone one of your posts, as stupid as they are, are proof that you, and everyone else is "allowed" to think for themselves. If there was any form of "thought control" websites such as Whale.to, Newstarget, and their ilk, would not exist. By their very presence and accessibility by anyone with a computer proves that there is no thought control. They are taught to defer to "experts" and "reliable sources" for everything which leaves them vulnerable. No one is taught that in any school I am familiar with. Listen to experts, people who have studied and researched subjects, and do your own research. If you reject all experts, then the next time you fly in an airplane, ask the guy sitting next to you to replace the pilot, since pilots are experts in flying planes. People should think for themselves because the experts aren't always right and often get used by vested interests to push for dubious purposes. When facts are short, use a conspiracy to fill the void (between the ears). What we can fault some for is the arrogant assurance that their own half-baked medical beliefs are undoubtedly correct and their refusal to even look at overwhelmingly contrary evidence. The thiomerosal-autism things is only the latest of many dearly held alt theories that have been proved wrong, but that doesn't seem to register either.. I haven't got "arrogant assurance", what I've got is reasoned belief rather than taking at face value everything from "experts" and "reliable sources" who are, either wittingly or unwittingly, serving the interests of various cartels, where science is twisted and incomplete with all concept of the ether being removed. In a world where knowledge is power, they prefer to keep the people in the dark -- so much easier to control that way. See above. You do have arrogant assurance. There is a "vaccine" for it. |
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Carole wrote:
"Mark" wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 12:09 am, Peter Bowditch wrote: State's autism rises despite vaccine change snip And yes, I know that the second story contains the idiotic statement "thimerosal -- nearly half of which is made of ethylmercury". I can only assume that the "journalist" studied chemistry at the University of Kentucky (if at all). Having earned my medical degree from the University of Kentucky (and thankfully, never having encountered "Dr." Boyd Hayley), I can only state the obvious: nutjobs can crawl out of the woodwork anywhere. Aus has its Carole, Hey I resent that ... just watch who you call a nutjob. Mark was only going by what you post. There's nothing unscientific about cellsalts, they've been a regular part of naturapathy and alternative medicine for 150 years. Naturapathy and alternative medicine are unscientific. All you've got is a type of science that forbids innovation and suppresses therapies that can't be patented. Not so. It is called real science. And when you go to the doctor they can't really work out what's wrong with you to make you healthy, just which drugs you need. Proof of Mark's first comment. Carole www.cellsalts.net Kentucky has its Boyd...even Costa Rica has its [wipe the slime from my keyboard] Ilena, and Indiana, home of James Dean, has its Jan. None of this means that Kentucky, Indiana, Costa Rica or Australia have lost all sensible thought. It just means that these places tolerate the cranks and the "problem children" rather than just stuffing them in a place where they would be relegated to jabbering at each other ad nauseum...we're a compassionate bunch, I should say. Let us celebrate our tolerance of those unfortunate enough to have been born lacking the gene that codes for rational thought. Let us pity these souls and take the high road. Surely, they are nincompoops and aggressive asses...they can't help it. Somewhere along the evolutionary line they missed the boat, the Good Ship Lolli-Sense. They can't help what they are. I think the best course is to tolerate their rants in much the same way an adult will watch a fit-throwing 2- year-old bang his head on the floor: you aren't going to make me get you another popsicle, and the sooner your head hurts, the sooner you will realize it. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraudhttp://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message ... State's autism rises despite vaccine change No vacs for my kids thank you. And there is nothing you can do to change that. Now this is the part where you get to blather, so please do. |
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"Mark" wrote in Nothing worth bandwidth. |
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