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Vaccine autism
World's leading independent autism expert, who was advisor to the film
Rainman, also the world's leading expert of nutritional treatments for autism: "When the link between the use of unsafe, mercury-laden vaccine and autism, ADHD, asthma, allergies and diabetes becomes undeniable, mainstream medicine will be sporting a huge, self-inflicted and well-deserved black eye. Then will come the billion-dollar awards, by enraged juries, to the children and their families. I can't wait."--Dr Rimland Ph.D. http://www.whale.to/v/rimland2.html Possibly the leading expert after Dr Rimland in the nutritional treatment of autism: "As a clinician, my current belief which guides my practice with these children is that any child given the HepB vaccination at birth and subsequent boosters along with DPT has received unacceptable levels of neurotoxin in the form of the ethyl mercury in the thimerosal preservative used in the vaccine. In any child with a genetic immune susceptibility (probably about one in six) this sets off a series of events that injure the brain-gut-immune system. By the time they are ready to receive the MMR vaccination, their immune system is so impaired in a great number of these children that the triple vaccine cannot be handled by the now dysfunctional immune system and they begin their obvious descent into the autistic spectrum disorder."---Jaquelyn McCandless, M.D http://www.whale.to/m/candless.html The ONLY study ever done (that I can find) comparing 100% non-vaccination children with vaccinated ones: "Children who receive all of the 22 vaccines and 35 vaccinations currently recommended by the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) are 14 times more likely to become learning disabled and 8 times more likely to become autistic compared with children who were never vaccinated!!"---Voices of Safety International, Donald C. Meserlian, P.E., Chairman. http://www.whale.to/v/aut88.html One independent UK expert who actually sat on the governmnet panel looking into MMR: "Dr Kenneth Aitken, a specialist in the treatment of autism, believes there is a clear link between autism and the MMR jab. "When I was training, one in 2,500 [children were autistic]. Now it is one in 250. At the moment, the only logical explanation for this is MMR," he said."--Media Dr Miller, the UK's number one vaccine advocate for the government: "In the latest annual report for the "Medicines Act 1968 Advisory Bodies", she (Miller) lists five "non-personal" interests - payments which benefit her department rather than herself personally. They are grants from Baxter Healthcare, Wyeth Lederle Vaccines, Chiron Biocine, and SmithKline Beecham and "CMI testing in adolescent sera", courtesy of Aventis Pasteur."--Private Eye UK's second gov vax advocate, Elliman: "Professor David Elliman, whose study said fears of a link between the MMR vaccine and autism were unfounded, admitted that he and Dr Helen Bedford had been given money by drugs giants SmithKline Beecham and Pasteur Merieux Merck Sharp & Dohme. Their report, MMR Vaccine - Worries Are Not Justified, is published in the current issue of the medical journal Archives of Disease in Childhood, and was used by the government to reiterate its view that the vaccine is safe."--Media Makers of MMR II---Aventis Pasteur MSD http://www.whale.to/m/all/elliman.html The USA's number one MMR adocate, Dr Offit: Dr. Offit shares the patent on the Rotavirus vaccine in development by Merck and lists a $350,000 grant from Merck for Rotavirus vaccine development. Also, he lists that he is a consultant to Merck. http://www.whale.to/v/offit1.html |
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"john" wrote in message ...
From: http://www.whale.to/v/rimland.html I especially like this part: "My son Mark was born in 1956. It was *obvious from birth* that this perfectly normal-looking infant had something drastically wrong with him." So, problems at birth. But you'd rather blame vaccines. "I had earned my Ph.D in experimental psychology 3 years earlier and had never encountered the word autism." Let's see, PhD in 1953 in psychology. And this in some way makes him an expert on biology? |
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"Ilena Rose" wrote in message ... On 4 Dec 2004 14:33:44 -0800, (Vaccine-Man) wrote: So, problems at birth. But you'd rather blame vaccines. It's not about blame ... it's about complex interractions of the many components of vaccines ... with genetic or other weaknesses. John is clearly blaming vaccines for causing autism. The immune system is reacting to thousands of different antigens every day. There are millions of white blood cells around the guts to protect the body from invasion by gut bacteria, people get little cuts and scrapes all the time. A study even showed that bacteria often get into the blood during a bowel movement and when brushing teeth. Our bodies immune system is constantly exposed to new antigens that it must respond to. Clearly, there can be unexpected side effects of vaccines, as we saw with the swine flu vaccine and the vaccines that only the military uses. We are all like snowflakes ... no two of us alike ... and how we respond to drugs, chemicals, etc. is unique. True, which means extreme caution must be used when using new drugs. Many doctors won't use new drugs because there are sometimes unexpected side effects (like heart attacks for people taking COX-2 inhbitors) that are not discovered for some time after they are licensed. Vaccines are no exception. However, several studies have failed to show any link between autism and vaccines. Jeff |
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john wrote: World's leading independent autism expert, who was advisor to the film Rainman, also the world's leading expert of nutritional treatments for autism: "When the link between the use of unsafe, mercury-laden vaccine and autism, ADHD, asthma, allergies and diabetes becomes undeniable, mainstream medicine will be sporting a huge, self-inflicted and well-deserved black eye. Then will come the billion-dollar awards, by enraged juries, to the children and their families. I can't wait."--Dr Rimland Ph.D. http://www.whale.to/v/rimland2.html Possibly the leading expert after Dr Rimland in the nutritional treatment of autism: "As a clinician, my current belief which guides my practice with these children is that any child given the HepB vaccination at birth and subsequent boosters along with DPT has received unacceptable levels of neurotoxin in the form of the ethyl mercury in the thimerosal preservative used in the vaccine. In any child with a genetic immune susceptibility (probably about one in six) this sets off a series of events that injure the brain-gut-immune system. By the time they are ready to receive the MMR vaccination, their immune system is so impaired in a great number of these children that the triple vaccine cannot be handled by the now dysfunctional immune system and they begin their obvious descent into the autistic spectrum disorder."---Jaquelyn McCandless, M.D http://www.whale.to/m/candless.html John likes that quotation a lot and he uses it every few months. As I've noted before, those vaccines, at least in the US, no longer contain thimerosal, so if McCandless weren't an idiot, she'd soon be faced with why we still have autistic children (and, unfortunately, still will in several years, when today's infants are old enough to be diagnosed). McCandless also couldn't think of any medications other than antibiotics that cure any disease. I can do better than that, and I'm not even an MD. And the notion that the MMR is somehow overwhelming the immune system of a child, whose immune system takes on thousands of antagonists every day (unless we're talking about the Boy in the Plastic Bubble), is too silly to require further refutation. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." |
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"Vaccine-Man" wrote in message om... So, problems at birth. But you'd rather blame vaccines. he never said all autism is from vaccines, that I recall, so that is disingenious of you "I had earned my Ph.D in experimental psychology 3 years earlier and had never encountered the word autism." Let's see, PhD in 1953 in psychology. And this in some way makes him an expert on biology? So biologists diagnose autism? |
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"john" wrote in message ... "Vaccine-Man" wrote in message om... So, problems at birth. But you'd rather blame vaccines. he never said all autism is from vaccines, that I recall, so that is disingenious of you "I had earned my Ph.D in experimental psychology 3 years earlier and had never encountered the word autism." Let's see, PhD in 1953 in psychology. And this in some way makes him an expert on biology? So biologists diagnose autism? No, but neuroscience and neurology, the science and branch of medicine, respectively, that deal with the brain are part of biology. To understand the brain and diseases that affect the brain, you have to be a biologist. Jeff |
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"john" wrote in message ...
"Vaccine-Man" wrote in message om... So, problems at birth. But you'd rather blame vaccines. he never said all autism is from vaccines, that I recall, so that is disingenious of you Uh, dude...the title of this thread STARTED BY YOU is "Vaccine autism." You also provided a link to your web site, from which I opend the referenced link. This is your implication that vaccines are the cause of autism. In addition, you have a rather colorful history of stating such. Hardly disingenuous on my part. "I had earned my Ph.D in experimental psychology 3 years earlier and had never encountered the word autism." Let's see, PhD in 1953 in psychology. And this in some way makes him an expert on biology? So biologists diagnose autism? In the 1950s (or '60s or '70s for that matter) psychology students didn't get much biology, if any at all. Autism appears to be a biological phenomenon, thus a psyc PhD trained in the 1950s unlikely has the background for critical analysis of experimental biological data. |
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Jeff wrote:
"Ilena Rose" wrote We are all like snowflakes ... no two of us alike ... and how we respond to drugs, chemicals, etc. is unique. True, which means Could you descibe how 'extreme caution' is being used in using new vaccines? How about putting in place a program to screen infants and identify at-risk factors? How about testing for allergies to vaccine ingredients before vaccinating? How about asking for information on previous reactions or on family history of vaccine reactions, or history of auto-immune disease before vaccinating? Would any of those be considered as exercising reasonable caution? Quite right what you say - extreme caution must be used when using new drugs. Or old drugs. Or any drugs. I don't remember any caution being used when my class was lined up for our jabs at school without parental consultation. That was in the UK in 1970's. Anything changed? Not much. Or my daughter's doctors exercising any caution before they injected her with vaccines. Or any caution being used in screening for potential risk factors before vaccinating. There are many who believe that vaccination practice over the last hundred years has led to an explosion in auto-immune diseases or conditions that seem to involve an abnormal immune activity. In many of these conditions, it is not clearly understood to what the immune system is reacting. Conditions such as arthritis, celiac disease, diabetes, Chronic fatigue syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, AIDS and Cancer are among the primary diseases of Modern Civilization. Autism can now be added to this list. The chances of an abnormal reaction of the immune system being caused by a process whose stated aim is to cause an unusual reaction of the immune system is, in my humble opinion, fairly high. |
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"World Peace Now" wrote in
There are many who believe that vaccination practice over the last hundred years has led to an explosion in auto-immune diseases or conditions that seem to involve an abnormal immune activity. There are many who believe all manner of things for which evidence is lacking. In many of these conditions, it is not clearly understood to what the immune system is reacting. Conditions such as arthritis, celiac disease, diabetes, Chronic fatigue syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, AIDS and Cancer are among the primary diseases of Modern Civilization. That's mostly because vaccination has eliminated or vastly reduced previous common killers. Autism can now be added to this list. The chances of an abnormal reaction of the immune system being caused by a process whose stated aim is to cause an unusual reaction of the immune system is, in my humble opinion, fairly high. Educate yourself. le moo |
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