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Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
I suppose you realize that if his inhaler had been a different medication,
and the girl had taken harm from it, the school would now be sued by the parent for not protecting the girl. Prescription medication should NEVER be loaned or given to another person. If she has athsma and has a prescription inhaler, she should carry it with her-not expect to borrow her boyfriend's. Prescription inhalers can have pretty major side effects if used improperly, or by someone who doesn't need them. Realistically, the school's hands are tied on this-Zero Tolerance isn't a local law or board policy. And from a legal standpoint, they'd be a lot more at risk if they condoned a student passing prescription medication around. |
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Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
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"Donna Metler" wrote: I suppose you realize that if his inhaler had been a different medication, and the girl had taken harm from it, the school would now be sued by the parent for not protecting the girl. Prescription medication should NEVER be loaned or given to another person. If she has athsma and has a prescription inhaler, she should carry it with her-not expect to borrow her boyfriend's. Prescription inhalers can have pretty major side effects if used improperly, or by someone who doesn't need them. Realistically, the school's hands are tied on this-Zero Tolerance isn't a local law or board policy. And from a legal standpoint, they'd be a lot more at risk if they condoned a student passing prescription medication around. of course zero tolerance is usually a local policy -- and designed to relieve people from ahving to exercise common sense it also teaches kids to have contempt for law and authority this incident could have been dealt with without expelling a student as essentially a 'drug pusher' -- |
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Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
"Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "Donna Metler" wrote: I suppose you realize that if his inhaler had been a different medication, and the girl had taken harm from it, the school would now be sued by the parent for not protecting the girl. Prescription medication should NEVER be loaned or given to another person. If she has athsma and has a prescription inhaler, she should carry it with her-not expect to borrow her boyfriend's. Prescription inhalers can have pretty major side effects if used improperly, or by someone who doesn't need them. Realistically, the school's hands are tied on this-Zero Tolerance isn't a local law or board policy. And from a legal standpoint, they'd be a lot more at risk if they condoned a student passing prescription medication around. of course zero tolerance is usually a local policy -- and designed to relieve people from ahving to exercise common sense it also teaches kids to have contempt for law and authority this incident could have been dealt with without expelling a student as essentially a 'drug pusher' -- Rah, Rah, Jenn... Well stated. At least you and a few others exhibit common sense. bobb |
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Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Donna Metler wrote: I suppose you realize that if his inhaler had been a different medication, and the girl had taken harm from it, the school would now be sued by the parent for not protecting the girl. Prescription medication should NEVER be loaned or given to another person. If she has athsma and has a prescription inhaler, she should carry it with her-not expect to borrow her boyfriend's. Prescription inhalers can have pretty major side effects if used improperly, or by someone who doesn't need them. Realistically, the school's hands are tied on this-Zero Tolerance isn't a local law or board policy. Where does it come from then? And from a legal standpoint, they'd be a lot more at risk if they condoned a student passing prescription medication around. |
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Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
"Joni Rathbun" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Donna Metler wrote: I suppose you realize that if his inhaler had been a different medication, and the girl had taken harm from it, the school would now be sued by the parent for not protecting the girl. Prescription medication should NEVER be loaned or given to another person. If she has athsma and has a prescription inhaler, she should carry it with her-not expect to borrow her boyfriend's. Prescription inhalers can have pretty major side effects if used improperly, or by someone who doesn't need them. Realistically, the school's hands are tied on this-Zero Tolerance isn't a local law or board policy. Where does it come from then? In my state, drug distribution-prescription or illegal, is a felony, and any felony on school property requires a mandatory 1 year suspension or reassignment to an alternative education setting. This is part of the state education code. Giving another student a prescription drug counts as distribution. If the school took official notice of it at all, they wouldn't have had much choice. And ignoring it would have risked liability if something had happened to the girl due to the medication. It may be different elsewhere And from a legal standpoint, they'd be a lot more at risk if they condoned a student passing prescription medication around. |
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Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Donna Metler wrote: "Joni Rathbun" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Donna Metler wrote: I suppose you realize that if his inhaler had been a different medication, and the girl had taken harm from it, the school would now be sued by the parent for not protecting the girl. Prescription medication should NEVER be loaned or given to another person. If she has athsma and has a prescription inhaler, she should carry it with her-not expect to borrow her boyfriend's. Prescription inhalers can have pretty major side effects if used improperly, or by someone who doesn't need them. Realistically, the school's hands are tied on this-Zero Tolerance isn't a local law or board policy. Where does it come from then? In my state, drug distribution-prescription or illegal, is a felony, and any felony on school property requires a mandatory 1 year suspension or reassignment to an alternative education setting. This is part of the state education code. Giving another student a prescription drug counts as distribution. If the school took official notice of it at all, they wouldn't have had much choice. And ignoring it would have risked liability if something had happened to the girl due to the medication. It may be different elsewhere Ah, well, I was just considering ZT politices. |
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Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
"Donna Metler" wrote in message . .. "Joni Rathbun" wrote in message ... On Thu, 9 Oct 2003, Donna Metler wrote: I suppose you realize that if his inhaler had been a different medication, and the girl had taken harm from it, the school would now be sued by the parent for not protecting the girl. Prescription medication should NEVER be loaned or given to another person. If she has athsma and has a prescription inhaler, she should carry it with her-not expect to borrow her boyfriend's. Prescription inhalers can have pretty major side effects if used improperly, or by someone who doesn't need them. Realistically, the school's hands are tied on this-Zero Tolerance isn't a local law or board policy. Where does it come from then? In my state, drug distribution-prescription or illegal, is a felony, and any felony on school property requires a mandatory 1 year suspension or reassignment to an alternative education setting. This is part of the state education code. This exhibits the problem with 'special laws'. It wasn't enough that possession or use of illegal drugs wasn't enough. Legislators had to create a new law that applied to schools and now that single law has been expanded to include otherwise law abiding people or are not dealing in illegal drugs. Another law says it even more wrong to sell illegal drugs within so many blocks of a school. Selling illegal drugs is less serious further away from a school? It's not enough to recognize that we have laws against killing people... we now have special laws that apply favoring police officers, firemen, minorites, the aged, legislators, and the list goes on. Obviously their lives are more important than mine. Understand that those who pass, promote, or agree with such laws are pandering to special interest groups without, maybe, being aware of unintended consequences... or maybe they are. Either way, these legislator should be recalled or voted out of office. Pandering and catering to special interest groups should be illegal in itself. These laws violate equal protection as well as all the rules of justice and fairness. Consider that selling drugs near a school apply mainly to blacks who live in the inner city... not the suburbs where school are not a gathering or meeting place. Intended or not blacks are exposed and arrested under this provision to a much larger degree than white suburban kids. Bobb Giving another student a prescription drug counts as distribution. If the school took official notice of it at all, they wouldn't have had much choice. And ignoring it would have risked liability if something had happened to the girl due to the medication. It may be different elsewhere And from a legal standpoint, they'd be a lot more at risk if they condoned a student passing prescription medication around. |
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Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
Well, I hope the mother of the girl sues the bejeebers out of the school
for medical neglect in delaying medical care, withholding the proper medication for the sake of filling out ever so nice bureaucratic paperwork. From a senselessly branched version of this thread: (Greg Hanson) wrote The mother of the girl should sue for medical neglect on the part of the school, for withholding/delaying inhaler in an asthma attack. And refuse to drop the case. This sort of case shows why Zero Tolerance is unconstitutional. The two kids inhalers are interchangeable. Laws are supposed to be for the protection of the people, not for the legal convenience of the government to dictate terms to people. To delay an inhaler only because of some stupid robotic bureaucratic "Zero Tolerance" construct is reprehensible. Next they'll let people DIE rather than give them an emergency tracheotomy. Neater paperwork. Much easier to check the boxes on a death certificate than to argue that Zero Tolerance is stupid. (Hands in air) "Oh Well, her asthma killed her." Jenn wrote of course zero tolerance is usually a local policy -- and designed to relieve people from [having] to exercise common sense Whether it's a (click heels) Federal law from on high, a state law, or simply a school policy, these are poor excuses for typical bureaucratic lack of common sense. it also teaches kids to have contempt for law and authority Better put than mine, but I wrote that this also could create a dangerous dampener on the idea of Good Samaritan laws. this incident could have been dealt with without expelling a student as essentially a 'drug pusher' -- Yup, sends the wrong message. This kind of in-your-face bureaucratic stupidity might breed a lot MORE people very sensitive about government bureaucracy stupidity. Truthfully, you don't have to see much of this sort of thing before you come to disrespect authority. I just hope they become activists against moron bureaucracy rather than roving gangs of thugs. |
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| Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine
The mother of the girl should sue for medical neglect on the part of
the school, for withholding/delaying inhaler in an asthma attack. And refuse to drop the case. This sort of case shows why Zero Tolerance is unconstitutional. The two kids inhalers are interchangeable. Laws are supposed to be for the protection of the people, not for the legal convenience of the government to dictate terms to people. To delay an inhaler only because of some stupid robotic bureaucratic "Zero Tolerance" construct is reprehensible. Next they'll let people DIE rather than give them an emergency tracheotomy. Neater paperwork. Much easier to check the boxes on a death certificate than to argue that Zero Tolerance is stupid. (Hands in air) "Oh Well, her asthma killed her." |
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