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Old March 7th 06, 06:15 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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Unlike France, the last time I looked the US was still an "innocent until
proven guilty" country.. at least I used to think so..
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Bill Would Take Casino Winnings To Pay Child Support

POSTED: 5:03 am MST March 6, 2006

DENVER -- A bill in the state Legislature would require Colorado gaming
venues to check if big winners owe back child support before giving them
their money.

The bill's sponsor, Democratic Rep. Joel Judd of Denver, said it is a way to
ensure that deadbeat parents don't profit while their children go unpaid.
Those owing tax bills, court fines or restitution also would have their
winnings seized under the bill.

But casino owners said the legislation intrudes on private business and
forces them to become debt collectors.

The Colorado Lottery last year took $78,000 from parents owing child
support. Judd says his proposal could recover up $1 million a year.

The state also uses wage garnishments, tax-refund seizures and denial of
hunting and fishing licenses to collect child support.


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Old March 7th 06, 06:29 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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"Dusty" wrote
.....the last time I looked the US was still an "innocent until
proven guilty" country.. at least I used to think so..

==
Constitutional protections do not apply to NCPs. The state claims an
overriding compelling interest.
(The above comment is my opinion only and should not be construed as legal
authority :-)


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Old March 7th 06, 07:34 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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"Gini" wrote in message
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"Dusty" wrote
....the last time I looked the US was still an "innocent until
proven guilty" country.. at least I used to think so..

==
Constitutional protections do not apply to NCPs. The state claims an
overriding compelling interest.
(The above comment is my opinion only and should not be construed as legal
authority :-)


That's something that's always bothered me. It's OK for murders, rapists,
thieves, even the little old lady that rear-ended her car to have the
protection of the Constitution in full force and effect, but NCP's don't?
Has anyone ever challenged that, in Federal court? Or any court, for that
matter.

It just smacks of sooo much wrong doing that it's not even funny.

And how does one get around the limitations and protections written of in
the Constitution anyway? It is the "Law of the Land", right?


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Old March 7th 06, 08:08 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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Easy! You lie, cheat, and do what the f&ck you want. G.W. Bush lies to
Americans all the time, violates their rights, authorizes illegal wire
tapping, and gets re-elected.

Americans were crazy enough to re-elect him, they get what they
deserve. The current situation is just an extention of what happened
to NCPs years ago. I think the administration was "testing the waters"
to see if they could get away with stripping a group of peoples rights
away if there was a "compelling interest" to do so. They did it. The
got away with it "in the best interests of the children". And the
American people bought it hook-line-and-sinker.

SO, NOW Mr GWB strips your rights and usurps the authority of the
constitution using the "war on terror" as a "compelling interest". And
I realize that terrorists struck america first BUT... WHO STARTED THE
WAR ON TERRORISM???? Why GWB of course!

So let me get this straight...

He cheated to get elected, he lied to the american people and started
the "war on terrorism", he admitted he lied to the american people, he
cheated to get elected AGAIN, and now he strips your rights using the
war an terrorism that HE STARTED as justification for stripping your
rights. Sounds about right.

GWB is, at best, a facist. At worst he is an outright dictator. If he
could find a way to weisel around getting turfed after his second
term, then he would.

Until you stop electing politicians that insist on violating your
rights, you are not going to solve this problem. If the constitution
is to mean anything, then there should be NO exemptions. As soon as
you allow ONE exception, then you are on the proverbial "slipery
slope" that allows government to rule un-checked.

So tell me, what are you going to do when the US Government decides
that electrions are no longer required because it is not in the best
interests of the people? I predict it will start with something like
an election getting delayed because you are in the middle of one
crissis or war or another. And just as that crissis is over, then
another will be conveiniently staged, and another. After a while you
might not even notice that electrions are net held anymore!

My sincerest prayer is that you all will be on guard for your rights.
You separated from a country that would not recognize your rights. You
fought a war to establish your rights. And you have fought win WW1 and
WW2 to protect your rights. Don't let some petty dictator take them
away with the stroke of a pen. Speak now, or forever hold your peace.

On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 13:34:27 -0500, "Dusty" wrote:

"Gini" wrote in message
news:KpjPf.1367$aF3.323@trndny02...

"Dusty" wrote
....the last time I looked the US was still an "innocent until
proven guilty" country.. at least I used to think so..

==
Constitutional protections do not apply to NCPs. The state claims an
overriding compelling interest.
(The above comment is my opinion only and should not be construed as legal
authority :-)


That's something that's always bothered me. It's OK for murders, rapists,
thieves, even the little old lady that rear-ended her car to have the
protection of the Constitution in full force and effect, but NCP's don't?
Has anyone ever challenged that, in Federal court? Or any court, for that
matter.

It just smacks of sooo much wrong doing that it's not even funny.

And how does one get around the limitations and protections written of in
the Constitution anyway? It is the "Law of the Land", right?


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Old March 8th 06, 07:48 AM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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"NewMan" wrote in

fought a war to establish your rights. And you have fought win WW1 and
WW2 to protect your rights. Don't let some petty dictator take them
away with the stroke of a pen.


Yes, it's slimy politicians looking to make votes that pass these self
serving laws.

It's always for the best interest of the politician!


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Old March 8th 06, 09:23 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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Democratic talking points snipped

This is not alt.paranoid-kooks-who-rant-about-how-GWB-is-Hitler. Yep,
all you alt.child-support folks better vote for Hillary, cause you all
know how much feminists love NCP's! NOW and ACES for NCPS, 2008!

I think this group crosses party lines pretty well. The system is a
problem, and neither party will do anything about it.

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Old April 5th 06, 06:28 AM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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This is disgusting! More than anything because states do such a lousy
job and ex's can say anything, that not every parent who the state says
owes support, actually owes it.

My husband has paid directly to ex for the past 7.5 years. She wanted
it this way because she wanted the money ON THE DAY he got paid, not a
week or two later...and to keep the relationship ammicable, for the
benefit of the child, my husband agreed to it. Now he gets paid on the
15th/30th of the month and she does not like that. She wants the money
every two weeks with a week in advance as he did before, so she went to
CSE office and asked his wages be garnished. Well, a month later we
find out he owes over 29K in back child support because she FAILED to
tell them that he had paid directly to her all these years. Amazing
how she didn't forget anything except this. So, his credit is ruined,
at anytime could be arrested, his wages are being garnished for back
support, not until HE proves he gave her the money, but until SHE signs
an affidavit that stating she received it. So, that could be now or a
year from now. Meanwhile, his wages are garnished...when and IF she
decides to sign the affidavit, then the "ADVANCE PAYMENT" aka ARREARS
(I believe this is how the state of Texas runs ads telling its
residents that their CSE office collects thousands in ARREARS...they
never mention or backtrack to tell the residents they are actually
ADVANCE payments for raising the child), will be applied to future
child support payments as the state of Texas sees fit...so it could be
5USD a month or 100USD a month, whatever...and by the way, as taxes are
soon due, we cannot do our taxes because even though he truly does not
owe anything, if we do our taxes, they will more than likely garnish
his refund as well.

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Old April 6th 06, 05:53 AM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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"whatamess" wrote in message
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This is disgusting! More than anything because states do such a lousy
job and ex's can say anything, that not every parent who the state says
owes support, actually owes it.


Are we so surprised that any immoral government that profits from the misery
of Gambling, Smoking & Drinking is anything but corrupt and dishonest with
it's citizens?

Lets face it, the Government has found another avenue to reach into the
wallets of it's citizens by labeling People as NCP's and declaring open
season on them.

It's all so pathetic, it's almost laughable when they fly that old tired
banner called, " in the best interest of the children!".


 




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