Holloween: The children of Atheism and Christians Share the same religious belief

In article , Penny Gaines says...

Chookie wrote:
In article . com,
"Lieken" wrote:


ON Halloween night when confronted by a masked, costumed youth making
the requesting threat, "Trick or treat," do you think it cute, just
a harmless occasion for children to enjoy themselves? Do you consider
Halloween to be a time to go to costume parties, bob for apples, and
carve a hollowed-out pumpkin into a fearsome face?

It's all evil, I tell you. It's that strange American custom being imported
here by avaricious shopkeepers.

It's cultural imperialism of the worst kind, because this hideous
emphasis on All Hallows Eve is threatening the customs surrounding
Bonfire Night, when all good Englishmen and women "remember, remember,
the fifth of November...."

;-)

A little terror incident from four hundred years ago...

Banty

In article xc5%g.3867$gZ2.1157@trndny07, Ruth Baltopoulos says...

enigma wrote:

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maybe your area isn't as bad as mine, or your mind is
blocking the orange & yellow lights & giant blown air turkeys
for Thanksgiving, and the green & yellow lights & giant
leprauchauns for St. Patrick's Day, or the vast swathes of
red, white & blue all over everything from at least Memorial
Day to 4th of July.... aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

Ahhhhhh, indeed!! The extremes to which people are going
for any and every occasion! To each his own, and all that,
but not only am I disinclined, I simply can't see spending
money on overblown, never ending, gratuitous decorating
projects. Where do people store all this stuff?!?!

Where do they store all that stuff; how do they find the TIME for all that
stuff; what horribly cluttered lives are being led!

Banty

"Tori M" wrote in message
.. .

There are no verses in the bible that says "Thou shalt not dress up as a
princess and ring a doorbell for presents and ask strangers for candy"

Trust me I have read the Bible.. not there.. Also nothing about bobbing
for apples.. plenty about practicing witchcraft... Focus On the Family
sees nothing wrong with Halloween that I have seen as long as it is
harmless dress up with trick or treating.


But if their Governing Body, a group of elderly Victorians say no Holidays
celebrations, the obedient brain-dead JWs nod their heads up and down, up
and down in agreement. Not one having the backbone to question the
stupidity of these hateful self-serving old men.
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"Robibnikoff" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message news:JTQ_g.13558
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I don't see how this has to do with atheists and Christians sharing the
same religious belief.

While some people may celebrate All Saints Day, I don't see how kids
dressing up in costumes has anything to do with it. I believe that
Halloween is an important holiday in the Wicca religion, but that doesn't
mean that Wiccans are celebrating dead Catholic souls.

Just like people who give gifts on Dec. 25 are not necessarily
celebrating the birth of Christ or go on Easter Egg hunts are not
celebrating the rebirth of Christ.

Exactly, when I get together when my in-laws, sis-in-laws and nieces and
nephews on Christmas Eve, we're certainly not celebrating Jesus' birthday.
We're celebrating family. Same thing the following morning when we open
gifts and my husband cooks a fantastic prime rib. No religion involved
whatsoever.

BAD! BAD GIRL!!!!! No Watchtower Society Paradise for you. You get the
WTS's lake-o-fire..........

--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

"Jeff" skrev i melding
hlink.net...

"Lieken" wrote in message
ups.com...
ON Halloween night when confronted by a masked, costumed youth making
the requesting threat, "Trick or treat," do you think it cute, just
a harmless occasion for children to enjoy themselves? Do you consider
Halloween to be a time to go to costume parties, bob for apples, and
carve a hollowed-out pumpkin into a fearsome face? Do you put stock in
stories about the return of spirits of the dead, of witches, and of
ghosts and goblins? Is this time of the year a serious occasion to you,
one when you visit the graves of loved ones and attend special
religious services? People view the celebration of Halloween
differently. What does it mean to you?

Halloween actually means Hallow Even or the Eve of All Hallows. In the
eighth century Pope Gregory III established November 1 as the date for
a feast to honor all the saints, it being called All Saints' Day.
According to The Catholic Encyclopedia, it is a feast of the highest
rank. Since all saints are considered hallowed people, the eve of the
feast in their behalf came to be called Eve of All Hallows, or, for
short, Halloween.

In the United States October 31 is Halloween night, a time for fun,
boisterousness and playing pranks. It has been called the worst night
of the year for vandalism, when both young and old run wild. In
Latin-American countries November 2 is the day celebrated, but in a
much different way. November 2 is the day of the Roman Catholic
festival All Souls' Day, which dates from about the eleventh century.
This festival is based on the belief that the souls of the dead can be
aided in getting out of purgatory to reach heaven by the prayers and
alms-deeds of the faithful on earth. Therefore at this festival,
referred to as the Day of the Dead and occurring the day after All
Saints' Day, people visit the graves of loved ones and offer prayers
and alms in their behalf.

I don't see how this has to do with atheists and Christians sharing the same religious belief.

While some people may celebrate All Saints Day, I don't see how kids dressing up in costumes has
anything to do with it. I believe that Halloween is an important holiday in the Wicca religion,
but that doesn't mean that Wiccans are celebrating dead Catholic souls.

Just like people who give gifts on Dec. 25 are not necessarily celebrating the birth of Christ or
go on Easter Egg hunts are not celebrating the rebirth of Christ.

Its a stupid witness drawing stupid lines and connections again, he probably read
it in a WT magasine and got all worked up about it. Then he drew illogical lines.

S

Jeff

enigma wrote:
"Caledonia" wrote in
oups.com:

Hmmm...all of our Halloween/Harvest decorations are stored
in the compost heap (they seem to decompose pretty well).
Christmas wreaths and trees are burned outside in the
spring, along with other yard waste....

what!? no New Year's Eve bonfire? that's our traditional day
of burning brush... although usually the tree is a year behind
because the llamas & goats aren't done eating it yet...


Ah, we have a 'burning season' here (whereas some people have burning
reasons, or something), and it starts on Feb 1st til May 1st. Always
so nice to think, 'hey, let's clear the snow off the big pile of
brush...'

Caledonia

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:12:27 -0500, ~ Säblë ~
wrote:
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"Tori M" wrote in message
. ..

There are no verses in the bible that says "Thou shalt not dress up as a
princess and ring a doorbell for presents and ask strangers for candy"

Trust me I have read the Bible.. not there.. Also nothing about bobbing
for apples.. plenty about practicing witchcraft... Focus On the Family
sees nothing wrong with Halloween that I have seen as long as it is
harmless dress up with trick or treating.


But if their Governing Body, a group of elderly Victorians say no Holidays
celebrations, the obedient brain-dead JWs nod their heads up and down, up
and down in agreement. Not one having the backbone to question the
stupidity of these hateful self-serving old men.

If they had both a backbone and a functioning mind, they would not be
JWs.

Lieken wrote:
ON Halloween night when confronted by a masked, costumed youth making
the requesting threat, "Trick or treat," do you think it cute, just
a harmless occasion for children to enjoy themselves?

Unlike you hateful JWs, I see it exactly that way. Why do you hate people?

Jeff wrote:

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I don't see how this has to do with atheists and Christians sharing the same
religious belief.

Atheists don't have *any* religious beliefs.

In article , Banty
wrote:

It's all evil, I tell you. It's that strange American custom being
imported here by avaricious shopkeepers.

It's cultural imperialism of the worst kind, because this hideous
emphasis on All Hallows Eve is threatening the customs surrounding
Bonfire Night, when all good Englishmen and women "remember, remember,
the fifth of November...."

;-)

A little terror incident from four hundred years ago...

Better keep quiet about that, or They'll be round with the hot irons to find
out EXACTLY what you know about it...

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
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