Unvaccinated children healthier

"JOHN" wrote in message
...

"Robert" wrote in message
. ..



Then what is the cause for so many diseases almost disappearing since
vaccinating started?


Smallpox vaccination started in 1790's. That vaccination actually kept
smallpox epidemics going.

And they had Diptheria and TB vaccines in 1890's.

If you look at nutrition and infections you will see improved nutrition
played a part http://www.whale.to/a/nutrition.html

"Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between
1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diptheria, and measles
occured before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics."---Dr
Archie Kalokerinos, M.D.

Ancient history. Science advances.

"JOHN" wrote in message
...

"Robert" wrote in message
. ..



Can you imagine a world without vaccines?

Yes, healthy kids, no autism, asthma



Vaccines have eliminated or mostly eliminated so many diseases that I
cannot
understand why there an anti-vaccination movement.


That's because you are ignorant. And the worst sort of ignorance is the
one
that doesn't even look at the evidence

Those who have weak arguments always resort to name calling.

"JOHN" wrote in message
...

"Robert" wrote in message
. ..


I don't know of anything that a herb or nutrient has cured.

Herbs cure most things, so do nutrients--vitamin c will cure all
infections
for example http://www.whale.to/a/levy_h.html

And you called me ignorant!! The above statement is really ridiculous.!

Are you a vitamin C salesman?

"Robert" wrote in message
. ..

"JOHN" wrote in message
...

"Robert" wrote in message
. ..



Can you imagine a world without vaccines?

Yes, healthy kids, no autism, asthma



Vaccines have eliminated or mostly eliminated so many diseases that I
cannot
understand why there an anti-vaccination movement.


That's because you are ignorant. And the worst sort of ignorance is the
one
that doesn't even look at the evidence

Those who have weak arguments always resort to name calling.


Um, Robert, "ignorant' is not name calling. It is a good estimation of
your condition. You could look the word up if your were interested and
then come back and play nice.

Robert wrote:
"JOHN" wrote in message
...
"Robert" wrote in message
. ..
Then what is the cause for so many diseases almost disappearing since
vaccinating started?

Smallpox vaccination started in 1790's. That vaccination actually kept
smallpox epidemics going.

And they had Diptheria and TB vaccines in 1890's.

If you look at nutrition and infections you will see improved nutrition
played a part http://www.whale.to/a/nutrition.html

"Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between
1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diptheria, and measles
occured before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics."---Dr
Archie Kalokerinos, M.D.

Ancient history. Science advances.

Not John. He's afraid of the 18th Century.

"Robert" wrote:


"JOHN" wrote in message
...

"Robert" wrote in message
. ..



Then what is the cause for so many diseases almost disappearing since
vaccinating started?


Smallpox vaccination started in 1790's. That vaccination actually kept
smallpox epidemics going.

And they had Diptheria and TB vaccines in 1890's.

If you look at nutrition and infections you will see improved nutrition
played a part http://www.whale.to/a/nutrition.html

"Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between
1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diptheria, and measles
occured before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics."---Dr
Archie Kalokerinos, M.D.

Ancient history. Science advances.


This is the same Archie Kalokerinos who believes that the World Health
Organization and the Save The Children Fund are deliberately killing
African children in a program of genocide. Anyone that mad should not
be trusted to reliably tell the time.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

On Apr 11, 10:26 pm, Peter Bowditch wrote:
"Robert" wrote:

"JOHN" wrote in message
...

"Robert" wrote in message
m...

Then what is the cause for so many diseases almost disappearing since
vaccinating started?

Smallpox vaccination started in 1790's. That vaccination actually kept
smallpox epidemics going.

And they had Diptheria and TB vaccines in 1890's.

If you look at nutrition and infections you will see improved nutrition
played a parthttp://www.whale.to/a/nutrition.html

"Up to 90% of the total decline in the death rate of children between
1860-1965 because of whooping cough, scarlet fever, diptheria, and measles
occured before the introduction of immunisations and antibiotics."---Dr
Archie Kalokerinos, M.D.

Ancient history. Science advances.

This is the same Archie Kalokerinos who believes that the World Health
Organization and the Save The Children Fund are deliberately killing
African children in a program of genocide. Anyone that mad should not
be trusted to reliably tell the time.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Projecthttp://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraudhttp://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skepticshttp://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Personal attacks do not change the fact that the majority of the
reduction in the rates of polio came well before salk and continued at
about the same rate after the vaccien was created. Many dieseases such
as bubonic plague have been virtualy erradicated without vaccines.
Anyone interested should research this issue for them self. Some
usefull info at NVIC just google it

In article . com,
bigvince wrote:
On Apr 8, 10:59 pm, "Jan Drew" wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message Stan



If vaccines are so safe then how come drug companies won't even
produce them unless they are granted immunity from lawsuits.

Because almost everyone gets vaccinated, because drug companies are
seen as "deep pockets" defendants, and because people (like you) like
to blame a limitless supply of symptoms on vaccines, whether the
vaccines are responsible or not.

How many people have been damanged by vaccines?

Some. A lot fewer than people like you would have us believe.

A recent article in the British Medical Journal found sanitation not
vaccines the most inportant contributor to better health in the last
50 years

So what? Just because vaccines aren't in first place doesn't mean
they're useless.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"HPV shots don't cause promiscuity. Tequila shots do." -- Bill Maher

In article .com,
bigvince wrote:
On Apr 9, 11:29 am, Penny Gaines wrote:
JOHN wrote:
"Donna Metler" wrote in message
...

Which I'll definitely believe. However, having taught in early childhood
and
kindergarten classrooms before the Chicken Pox vaccine, I know what
happens
when one of those childhood diseases rips through an unvaccinated
population. Within a few weeks, we would have more than half of the
students
in the pre K and Kindergarten out, plus a handful who had sometimes missed
it the first time. And inevitably, that would include at least one older
student or adult who had missed it for several years, and would be
seriously
ill.

We haven't had chicken pox vaccine here, UK, but i can't recall it being a
problem in any of the 7 schools my kids have been to.

I can't recall any kindegarten or pre school incident of it, or primary
school. So hardly a problem

[snip]

One of my kids had it at pre-school, and passed it on to their sibling:
there were several other cases within that pre-school.

--
Penny Gaines
UK mum to three- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Chikenpox is unpleasant. Every day children in this country die from
adverse reaction to vaccines.The safety of mercury containing vaccines
has recently been questioned.

The mercury is out of virtually all vaccines was never in some of them
anyway. Just so you know.

The real data was availible for all to
see . The reaction on the people in charge of our health is detailed
here
" You couldn't even construct a study that shows thimerosal is safe.
It's
just too darn toxic. If you inject thimerosal into an animal, its
brain
will sicken. If you apply it to living tissue, the cells die. If you
put
it in a petri dish, the culture dies. Knowing these things, it would
be
shocking if one could inject it into an infant without causing
damage."

Not when "the dose makes the poison." And thimerosal isn't as toxic
as the vested-interest-in-it Prof Haley would have you believe.
Someone once took a big dose of thimerosal in an attempt to commit
suicide. It didn't work.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"HPV shots don't cause promiscuity. Tequila shots do." -- Bill Maher

In article ,
JOHN wrote:

"Robert" wrote in message
...

Can you imagine a world without vaccines?

Yes, healthy kids, no autism, asthma

In other words: fantasy land. John fails to understand that those
conditions existed before there were vaccines.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"HPV shots don't cause promiscuity. Tequila shots do." -- Bill Maher