Dentist uses Nitrous Oxide?

We agree!

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:03:22 GMT, "Roger Schlafly"
wrote:

"Mxsmanic" wrote
Better to give the child realistic expectations of what is going to
happen. If it is going to hurt, then tell the kid it is going to hurt.
As a general rule, any expectation placed into the mind of young
children will tend to become exaggerated, with the degree of ...

Sure, if you are in a habit of lying to them about what to expect.
I find that telling them the truth works much better.

Adults are like this, too, with situations that they've never dealt with
before. However, since they have considerably more experience, this
helps to temper their exaggerations in _most_ contexts (but not all).

So do you prefer that a dentist lies to you about how much pain
you are going to get?


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Pediatric dentist ......


On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:23:51 GMT, Wendy Marsden
wrote:

In misc.kids.health Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. wrote:
SPECIALIST TIME.

What specialist? The kid started out with a general dentist who referred
him to this pediatric dentist. He was also seen by an oral surgeon but
the oral surgeon said to go to the pediatric dentist for the rest of the
work.

What specialist is there beyond the general dentist, oral surgeon,
pediatric dentist and orthodontist that we've already got on the table?

BTW, my husband just told me he has a teeth cleaning appointment tomorrow
with the dentist we're going to try next with our son. I figure I'll
bring our son to it to just hang out while the work is being done. Does
that make sense to you?

Wendy

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In article ,
Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. wrote:

Pediatric dentist ......



Except that the incident she described was with a pediatric dentist . . .

meh
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N'udder pediatric dentist .... one more skilled in medications .......


On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 22:35:26 GMT, dragonlady
wrote:

In article ,
Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. wrote:

Pediatric dentist ......



Except that the incident she described was with a pediatric dentist . . .

meh

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Line Dancing impairment?

What the heck is that?



Joel

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 18:41:03 -0400, Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
wrote:

From: (Clinton C Zimmerman)
Date: 9/16/2003 10:34 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

(Jan) wrote in message
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Subject: Hg statistics
From: (Clinton C Zimmerman)
Date: 9/15/2003 12:34 PM Pacific Standard Time
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cz

1: Occup Environ Med 1995 Feb;52(2):124-8 Related Articles, Books


People with high mercury uptake from their own dental amalgam fillings.

Barregard L, Sallsten G, Jarvholm B.

Department of Occupational Medicine, Sahlgrenska University Hospital,
Goteborg,
Sweden.

OBJECTIVES--To describe people with high mercury (Hg) uptake from their
amalgam
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Roger Schlafly writes:

Sure, if you are in a habit of lying to them about what to expect.
I find that telling them the truth works much better.

Even if you tell the truth, it will be exaggerated in a child's mind.
Adults do the same thing, but not to the same extent.

So do you prefer that a dentist lies to you about how much pain
you are going to get?

No, but I'm not prone to exaggeration.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Roger Schlafly writes:

Sure, if you are in a habit of lying to them about what to expect.
I find that telling them the truth works much better.

Even if you tell the truth, it will be exaggerated in a child's mind.
Adults do the same thing, but not to the same extent.

So do you prefer that a dentist lies to you about how much pain
you are going to get?

No, but I'm not prone to exaggeration.

If the kid doesn't ask, don't offer any information. If they ask then tell
them something specific. Like it might feel like a misquito bite or
something of that nature. That is my tactic at any rate and so far it has
worked well for vaccinations.

Another thing that has worked well for us is to read books about
vaccinations and dental stuff way ahead of our visit, not even related to
our visit. The repeat readings makes it seem more familiar etc. since part
of the apprehension at the dentist has nothing to do with fearing
pain.....kids shouldn't even realize dentist equals pain....but that it is
just something totally new.

--
Nikki
Mama to Hunter (4) and Luke (2)

Now if the kid is afraid of amalgam poisoning (a current fad amongst
otherwise intelligent people), then he is reading too many nonsense
newsgroups.

PS- Kids can get white fillings too ...... glassionomers are very good
for deciduous teeth ~ Fuji, etc.

Pitch and plug for Carabelli (KS), Jeff (TX), and Charlie (MA),

Be sure to get crooked teeth straightened ~ untreated, it often causes
periodontal disease thirty years later - Joel.

Joel


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nonsense follows:

Ironically, all of Jan Drew's pseudoscience HELPS the dentists
financially and often hurts the patients when complications arise!
Ever see the patient who no longer can chew on the recently installed
composites and then needs root canal and crown?

Why not sometimes leave well enough alone?

I refrain from agreeing with the patient's pseudoscience, however, if
someone wants to remove UNSIGHTLY amalgam, is willing to pay for it,
then I am enthusiastic too.

Of course then Jan rolls into "composite compatibility testing" and
"proper protocol," both of which are total unmitigated nonsense!

Now we can make money on that too at the risk of defrauding our
patients!


Joel

On 17 Sep 2003 13:27:31 GMT, (ChuckMSRD) wrote:

The sounds of falling amalgam .......

I begin to wonder - why the obsession with amalgam if the ill effects are such
nonsense? Your obsession reinforces to me that maybe there is something going
on here.
As a Nutritionist, when someone tells me how Dr. Barefoot's Coral Calcium cured
their______ I just smile and say "the science does not really support that
connection but im glad your feeling better". I dont post 1000 nonsensical
derisions and attack and impune the person who made the statement.

Chuck



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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 09:23:25 -0500, "Nikki"
wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:
Roger Schlafly writes:

Sure, if you are in a habit of lying to them about what to expect.
I find that telling them the truth works much better.

Even if you tell the truth, it will be exaggerated in a child's mind.
Adults do the same thing, but not to the same extent.

So do you prefer that a dentist lies to you about how much pain
you are going to get?

No, but I'm not prone to exaggeration.

If the kid doesn't ask, don't offer any information. If they ask then tell
them something specific. Like it might feel like a misquito bite or
something of that nature. That is my tactic at any rate and so far it has
worked well for vaccinations.

Another thing that has worked well for us is to read books about
vaccinations and dental stuff way ahead of our visit, not even related to
our visit. The repeat readings makes it seem more familiar etc. since part
of the apprehension at the dentist has nothing to do with fearing
pain.....kids shouldn't even realize dentist equals pain....but that it is
just something totally new.

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Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

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For those with small mouths, kids etc., it helps if the doctor or the
dental assistant knows the "bisecting angle" technique.

It is the one where there is no need for gizmos in your mouth!


Joel

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:40:29 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Nikki writes:

...kids shouldn't even realize dentist equals pain....but that it is
just something totally new.

Dentist _does not_ equal pain. Even in my childhood, going to the
dentist was not painful. I didn't like it, but not out of any fear of
pain, because I never had any. There was the initial shot of
anesthetic, but that didn't hurt enough to bother me, even at a very
young age.

Strangely, what scared me most was x-rays, because it required gagging
on a piece of film in my mouth. I was terrified by having things forced
down my throat and feeling as though I were about to choke to death.
I've since been told by some dentists that I was not exceptional in
being especially afraid of x-rays (true?).

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Philadelphia PA

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Nikki writes:

...kids shouldn't even realize dentist equals pain....but that it is
just something totally new.

Dentist _does not_ equal pain. Even in my childhood, going to the
dentist was not painful. I didn't like it, but not out of any fear of
pain, because I never had any. There was the initial shot of
anesthetic, but that didn't hurt enough to bother me, even at a very
young age.

Strangely, what scared me most was x-rays, because it required gagging
on a piece of film in my mouth. I was terrified by having things forced
down my throat and feeling as though I were about to choke to death.
I've since been told by some dentists that I was not exceptional in
being especially afraid of x-rays (true?).

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