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Old December 23rd 06, 06:28 AM posted to free.christians,alt.christnet.public,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.bible,alt.parenting.solutions
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Default Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

Church Education Resource Ministries or CERM (www.cerm.info) wants to
wish you all a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

Remember the true meaning of Christmas and do hope to spend some
quality time with your families. Love them as if this were your last
Christmas together. You never know when you will depart from this
earth, so try and live as if this will be your last.

Tonight I visited a Christmas event called Bethlehem AD
(http://www.bethlehemad.com/). It was awesome, as I felt like I was
actually in Bethlehem during the time of Jesus. Got to pet the camels,
and other animals, got to see Herod, but most of all got to see the
Lord Jesus. Awesome.

The true meaning of Christmas is Jesus. Its not about presents, its not
about food and its not about anything else but Jesus.

If any of you lives in the San Francisco Bay Area, try and make the
last Bethlehem AD showing which is tomorrow.
--
Bethlehem A.D. is easy to find! Located within the downtown core of
Redwood City, CA, plenty of parking is available within walking
distance from the village. Onsite parking is available for handicap
and seniors.

Also note that year's event will be walk-through only, except for a
"special needs" drive-through for handicapped, elderly, and infirm
visitors. This will take place on Dec 21, from 6--8pm. Large Nursing
Home vans or buses are encouraged to call for an appointment so we
arrange for your visit and bring cider and donuts to your vehicle.
Please visit the Contact Us area for contact information.

1305 Middlefield Road
Redwood City, CA 94063
Google Maps | Yahoo! Maps | Mapquest

Directions from HWY 101

* Take HWY 101 North/South (depending upon where you are coming
from)
* Take the Woodside Road exit and head West (Redwood City)
* Go to Middlefield Road and turn right (toward downtown)
* Look for the search lights, Bethlehem will be on the left.

Directions from HWY 280

* Take HWY 280 North/South (depending upon where you are coming
from)
* Take the Woodside Road exit and head East (Redwood City)
* Go to Middlefield Road and turn left (toward downtown)
* Look for the search lights, Bethlehem will be on the left.


John
www.cerm.info

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Old December 23rd 06, 06:26 PM posted to free.christians,alt.christnet.public,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.bible,alt.parenting.solutions
Pastor Steve Winter
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Default Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

spake thusly and wrote:

Remember the true meaning of Christmas


See
http://www.heathenholidays.com

Anyone knowing John Wolf's current address is asked to contact
the Durham, NC police dept with that information and reference
criminal complaints NC IR05-034406, 05-034406, 05-029465,
06-11685

A malicious individual John Wolf has been harassing and stalking
me for some time now and I have filed numerous criminal
complaints. Including Durham, NC IR05-034406, 05-034406,
05-029465, 06-11685. These include harassing phone calls,
sending unwanted things in the US mail (yes I have filed a
complaint with the Charlotte, NC Postal Inspector), computer
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Federal crimes across state lines.

Pastor Steve Winter
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Have you obeyed Acts 2:38 as Paul taught in Acts 19:4-6?
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Old December 23rd 06, 07:25 PM posted to free.christians,alt.christnet.public,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.bible,alt.parenting.solutions
Bill M
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Default Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year


wrote in message
ups.com...
Church Education Resource Ministries or CERM (www.cerm.info) wants to
wish you all a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

Remember the true meaning of Christmas and do hope to spend some
quality time with your families. Love them as if this were your last
Christmas together. You never know when you will depart from this
earth, so try and live as if this will be your last.

Tonight I visited a Christmas event called Bethlehem AD
(http://www.bethlehemad.com/). It was awesome, as I felt like I was
actually in Bethlehem during the time of Jesus. Got to pet the camels,
and other animals, got to see Herod, but most of all got to see the
Lord Jesus. Awesome.

The true meaning of Christmas is Jesus.


The term Christmas ("mass on Christ's day") is of fairly recent origin. The
earlier term Yule may have derived from the Germanic jol or the Anglo-Saxon
geol, which referred to the feast of the winter solstice.



The practice of giving gifts, which goes back to the 15th century,
contributed to the view that Christmas was a secular holiday focused on
family and friends. This was one reason why Puritans in Old and New England
opposed the celebration of Christmas and in both England and America
succeeded in banning its observance.



Ethiopia, where Christianity has had a home ever since the 4th century and
where the Ethiopian Orthodox church celebrates Christmas on January 7. The
Russian Orthodox church also recognizes January 7 as Christmas day, and the
Armenian church honours January 6 as Christmas.



None of the contemporary Christmas customs have their origin in theological
or liturgical affirmations, and most are of fairly recent date. The
Renaissance humanist Sebastian Brant recorded, in Das Narrenschiff (1494;
The Ship of Fools), the custom of placing branches of fir trees in houses



The precise origin of assigning December 25 as the birth date of Jesus is
unclear. The New Testament provides no clues in this regard. One widespread
explanation of the origin of this date is that December 25 was the
Christianizing of the dies solis invicti nati ("day of the birth of the
unconquered sun"), a popular holiday in the Roman Empire.



Then there is Mithras, whose birthday it was and upon whom the
mythic Jesus appears to be based.



There was also Saturnalia, the most popular holiday of the Roman year.
Catullus )
describes it as "the best of days," and Seneca complains that the "whole mob
has let itself go in pleasures." Pliny the Younger writes that he retired to
his room while the rest of the household celebrated. Cicero fled to the
countryside. It was an occasion for celebration, visits to friends, and the
presentation of gifts, particularly wax candles (cerei), perhaps to signify
the returning light after the solstice, and sigillaria. Martial wrote Xenia
and Apophoreta for the Saturnalia. Both were published in December and
intended to accompany the "guest gifts" which were given at that time of
year. Aulus Gellius relates in his Attic Nights (XVIII.2) that he and his
Roman compatriots would gather at the baths in Athens, where they were
studying, and pose difficult questions to one another on the ancient poets,
a crown of laurel being dedicated to Saturn if no-one could answer them.

They were giving gifts at the Saturnalia long before Jesus was born!!



The Jesus story historically is totally implausible. It is not supported by
any solid objective verifiable evidence. Should we believe in a god for whom
there is NO solid objective evidence? The evidence available is quite the
contrary. This Jesus belief is based purely on faith in totally implausible
stories, not factual objective verifiable evidence of any kind.



This all powerful God supposedly created this huge Universe that is over 13
BILLION years old. What it was and how long it existed before, we simply do
not know. Any opinion before that 13 BILLION years is pure speculation.



The Universe is more than 20 BILLION LIGHT YEARS" in diameter (light travels
at 186,000 miles per SECOND). How much larger it is we simply do not know.
It consists of many trillions of stars and planets. The earth is less than a
speck of dust in this huge Universe. There are over 6 1/2 BILLION humans on
this earth at present. Many billions more have existed before now but have
died. Man is but a grain of sand on a large beach relative to the size of
the Earth. Why would the creator of this huge complex Universe be concerned
about these billions of specks of dust?



According to the Bible, God supposedly created the heavens, the earth and
everything in it in six days. Adam, the original man was created during this
time from 'dust'. His mate, Eve was created from one of Adam's ribs.



According to the Bibles this all powerful omnipotent God supposedly created
this huge complex Universe in six days!



This God supposedly came to earth over 2,000 years ago as a man named Jesus
to save mankind from the sins that God himself created and to preach his
wishes and commands. Archeological evidence indicates 'modern' man has
existed approximately 100,000 years. Why did god wait all those years to
come to earth to preach his word and pay for man's sins (which he himself
created!)?



This all powerful creator of this huge Universe supposedly came to Earth as
a baby in a manger, in the middle of winter and was born of a virgin called
Mary. Why would he choose to be born in such an ingenuous way? Arrogant
humans had to make up a myth
about a god arriving from the womb of another human.



If Jesus was supposedly born of a Virgin Mary and she was the wife of
Joseph, why was she still a virgin? Why did the women need to be married to
a mortal in order to give birth to a god? And why couldn't this all powerful
god creator just come to earth in what ever form he chose to create? He
supposedly created the Universe and everything in it!



If he could create Adam instantly from dust and Eve from a rib, why did he
use this slow tortuous means to create himself as a god man on earth???



He supposedly grew up as a normal child and worked as a carpenter as an
adult. There are no details in the Bibles about his younger years. After
about THIRTY YEARS, he supposedly announced to the local inhabitants that
he was Jesus the God savior from heaven to tell them God's wishes and
commands. He did this preaching for a short period

of one, two or three years. (depending on which book of the Bibles you
choose)



There are no significant records of Jesus', (the Christ) actual existence in
the non religious documents of the era. Depending upon which Bible story you
choose, it is claimed he preached his doctrines for one, two or three years.
In any case, why put himself on earth for some thirty inconsequential years
and only use a few of these years to preach his doctrines? And then not use
his omnipotent power to preach to the WHOLE world instead of just a
miniscule part of the world around Jerusalem?



Jesus was baptized. In Christianity, baptism is the sacrament of
regeneration and initiation into the Christian church. According to a theme
of St. Paul the Apostle, baptism is death to a former life and the emergence
of a new person, signified by the conferring of a new name; it is the total
annulment of the sins of one's past, from which one emerges a totally
innocent person. Then why would a 'God Jesus' need to be baptized?



His sermons and teachings only reached a miniscule part of the world
population at that time because he did not speak via the equivalent of
International Radio or TV. IF he was an ALL powerful creator of the world,
he certainly would have had the ability to speak to ALL of mankind by means
at least as effective as man. Why did this all powerful god creator wait
over 100,000 years to come and preach to only a very small segment of the
world, for a period of one, two or three years, and then leave us without
ANY solid objective verifiable evidence of his existence, his wishes and
commands? Why did he not preserve his teachings in some permanent form for
all of mankind in the future?



The Bibles were supposedly written by 56 or more authors of unknown veracity
over a period of thousands of years. There are NO - NADA originals of the
Bibles in existence. The originals have all rotted and disappeared thousands
of years ago. They are all hand copies of copies etc. of unknown actual
origin. Why would any omnipotent God, creator of this huge complex Universe,
provide his message in such a sloppy, inaccurate, unreliable, questionable
and confusing manor???



Why did he not use his great omnipotent powers to preach to the WHOLE world
from his Heaven, instead of just preaching to an insignificant portion of
the world?? Why did he leave most of mankind totally in the dark?



He supposedly distributed his word via hand copied books called the Bibles.
Yet NONE of the Bibles were written during his 'claimed' time on earth. The
original Bibles were written and hand recopied more than 1500 years before
the invention of the printing press. There is no evidence that Jesus ever
wrote a word. NO ORIGINAL copies of ANY of the Bibles exist. Why did he not
preserve them? The Bibles now in existence are hand copies of copies etc. of
unknown and doubtful veracity. They are largely myths, fables, hearsay and
implausible tales. The four books of the New Testament were written and
copied somewhere between 60 and 200 years AFTER Jesus' supposed existence.
None of the authors could have known him directly. They are all third person
fictional narratives of unknown veracity. Why would a real god, creator of
this huge Universe, not arrange for the creation of clear, authentic,
contemporary and permanent copies of his word?



During his brief adulthood, preaching his word, he is 'claimed' to have
restored site to a few of the blind, restored mobility to a few of the
crippled and restored health to a few of the sick. Why was he so niggardly
about helping the poor, the disabled and the sick? Is this the likely
conduct of an all loving God creator?



After the one, two or three years he preached, to only the locals. His
preaching only reached a very small part of the world's population. He did
not avail himself of Radio, TV, Telephone or the Internet. He then allowed
himself to be painfully and brutally crucified on a cross between two
criminals to pay for man's sins (which he created). If he died on the cross
to save mankind, why was mankind no better off after this supposed
crucifixion than before? Was all this blood and gore for nothing?!



The Roman courts were models of order and fairness. A man was not condemned
without a trial; he was not handed to the executioner before being found
guilty. And yet we are asked to believe that an innocent man was brought
before a Roman court, where Pontius Pilate was Judge; that no charge of
wrongdoing having been brought against him, the Judge declared that he found
him innocent; but the mob shouted, "Crucify him; crucify him!" and to please
the rabble, Pilate commanded that the man whom he had found innocent, should
be delivered to the executioners to be crucified! Also, real criminals were
crucified by being 'tied' to the cross - not nailed! What was the purpose of
all this blood and gore? Why should any REAL god need to suffer for man's
sins??? (which god created)



Why was his life and crucifixion not in any of the numerous historical
documents of the time??? Why is it only in church documents?



If Jesus performed the wonderful miracles the New Testament describes, why
did the people want him crucified? Is it not amazing that a civilized people
would demand that a kind and loving man who went about doing good works, who
preached forgiveness, cleansed the leprous, and raised the dead - that they
could not be appeased until they had brutally crucified the noblest
benefactor of mankind? This makes NO sense at all!



If he could create the Universe and every thing in it, (including sin) why
did he not just forgive man's sins, directly from his heaven, without all
this blood and gore? Three days after he died he supposedly rose from the
dead and returned to his heaven. Why did he wait uncomfortably in a crypt
for three days after his death and internment to return to his magnificent
heaven? Why did he wait 30 years!? How can an immortal god die? Jesus did
not die for our sins. People are still praying to him in his supposed
heaven!



What was the logic and purpose of this gruesome and painful killing? Only a
miniscule part of the world's population at the time would be aware of this
claimed sacrifice.

Billions of people today are still not knowledgeable believers of this
highly implausible story. Why did he not preserve a video tape, DVD or other
permanent record of this historic episode? If man is capable of these
devices certainly a god creator should be equally or more proficient.



Why did this God wait over 100,000 years to communicate with only a
minuscule portion of humanity in such a crude and ineffective manner and not
leave any authenticated documents accurately substantiating his appearance?
Why has he failed to communicate further for over 2,000 years?



He supposedly went through this torture and humiliating death to pay for
mans sins which he himself created! Why did he not just wave his wand and
forgive mans sins and skip all the ridiculous blood and gore??? Why did he
create sin in the first place? This should be no problem for a god that
created Adam from dust and Eve from Adam's rib, and this immense Universe.
Why do people still supposedly still have the same sins that he died for?



Why does he encourage or permit Christians to drink his blood and eat his
flesh? Isn't this a pagan ritual?



Why does he continue to allow thousands of greedy self serving men to
deliver his word to his flock in such a vague, inconsistent, contradictory,
and ineffectual manner? There are hundreds of different Christian sects and
beliefs. There are thousands of different religious and god beliefs and
practices. Why does he allow this gross confusion? Why does he not
communicate clearly and DIRECTLY to his entire flock that he is the real god
and all the others are fakes? It would be more responsible and more
effective to eliminate this gross confusion?



If he is the real god, why does he even permit the belief and propagation of
thousands of false gods and false religions?



The Christ tale is obviously pure myth and legend of illogical proportions!



The objective evidence is that God did not create man but quite the
contrary; that man created Gods!




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Old December 29th 06, 02:52 AM posted to free.christians,alt.christnet.public,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.bible,alt.parenting.solutions
Bible Bob
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On 22 Dec 2006 22:28:01 -0800, wrote:

BB Wrote:

John STOP putting "--" in your messages. as it prevents newsreaders
from quoting the whole article in the repsonse.

John Wrote:

Church Education Resource Ministries or CERM (
www.cerm.info) wants to
wish you all a Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.

Remember the true meaning of Christmas and do hope to spend some
quality time with your families. Love them as if this were your last
Christmas together. You never know when you will depart from this
earth, so try and live as if this will be your last.

BB wrote:

Christmas is a pagan holiday. Jesus was born on September 11th, not
December 25th!

John wrote:

Tonight I visited a Christmas event called Bethlehem AD
(http://www.bethlehemad.com/). It was awesome, as I felt like I was
actually in Bethlehem during the time of Jesus. Got to pet the camels,
and other animals, got to see Herod, but most of all got to see the
Lord Jesus. Awesome.

BB wrote:

Herod is long dead. You did not meet Herod. And why would meeting
Herod be a thrill for a "Christian"?

John wrote:

The true meaning of Christmas is Jesus. Its not about presents, its
not
about food and its not about anything else but Jesus.

BB wrote:

That's not true. Jesus has nothing to do with Christmas. Christmas
Etymology: Middle English Christemasse, from Old English Cristes
męsse, literally, Christ's mass where "mass" is from Etymology: Middle
English, from Old English męsse, modification of Vulgar Latin *messa,
literally, dismissal at the end of a religious service, from Late
Latin missa, from Latin, feminine of missus, past participle of
mittere to send. In other words Christmas means "Christ's dismissal"
which is what Christmas doers. It dismisses the truth about Chirst
for the sake of religion and money.

John wrote:

If any of you lives in the San Francisco Bay Area, try and make the
last Bethlehem AD showing which is tomorrow.
"--" EVERYTHING BELOW THIS IS OMITTED
Bethlehem A.D. is easy to find! Located within the downtown core of
Redwood City, CA, plenty of parking is available within walking
distance from the village. Onsite parking is available for handicap
and seniors.

Also note that year's event will be walk-through only, except for a
"special needs" drive-through for handicapped, elderly, and infirm
visitors. This will take place on Dec 21, from 6--8pm. Large Nursing
Home vans or buses are encouraged to call for an appointment so we
arrange for your visit and bring cider and donuts to your vehicle.
Please visit the Contact Us area for contact information.

1305 Middlefield Road
Redwood City, CA 94063
Google Maps | Yahoo! Maps | Mapquest

Directions from HWY 101

* Take HWY 101 North/South (depending upon where you are coming
from)
* Take the Woodside Road exit and head West (Redwood City)
* Go to Middlefield Road and turn right (toward downtown)
* Look for the search lights, Bethlehem will be on the left.

Directions from HWY 280

* Take HWY 280 North/South (depending upon where you are coming
from)
* Take the Woodside Road exit and head East (Redwood City)
* Go to Middlefield Road and turn left (toward downtown)
* Look for the search lights, Bethlehem will be on the left.


John
www.cerm.info



......
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
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Old January 1st 07, 12:32 PM posted to free.christians,alt.christnet.public,alt.religion.christian.baptist,alt.bible,alt.parenting.solutions
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