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  #21  
Old June 5th 07, 05:15 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.
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Default ADHD drugs linked to violent crime

The Institute finds your allegations not worthy of consideration and
considers your Cult a crack-pot organization to be easily dismissed
out of hand.

Mark Probert wrote:
Robert Schumann wrote:
It is worse than this article tells; my own research laboratory


Comprised of the toys from McDonald Happy Meals.

indicates that ADHD drugs increase violent crime by a factor that
unfortunately has to remain a very guarded secret, because of its
alarming implications!


Sure, fArtie. Only in your damaged brain.

But suffice it to say that ALL young people
on these zombie-like drugs MUST be taken off them immediately! There
are natural cures that should be tried at the very beginning of
treatment of this often-misdiagnosed spin-drome.


OH? Do list them.

Even the prestigious Institute of Scientific Medical and Psychiatric
Research (ISMPR) agrees with this assessment whwholeheartedly.


That institute does not exist. Just like your brain.

And if
it is good enough for them, it is good enough for everybody!


Good enough for a non-existent entity.


  #22  
Old June 5th 07, 05:42 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
Ann
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Default ADHD drugs linked to violent crime

"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." expounded:

The Institute finds your allegations not worthy of consideration and
considers your Cult a crack-pot organization to be easily dismissed
out of hand.


Oooooh, The Institute! Oh dear, Mark, whatever shall you do?
:::shudder:::
--
Ann
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  #23  
Old June 6th 07, 01:25 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
Mark Probert
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Default ADHD drugs linked to violent crime

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
The Institute finds your allegations not worthy of consideration and
considers your Cult a crack-pot organization to be easily dismissed
out of hand.


Imaginary institutes have no function.


Mark Probert wrote:
Robert Schumann wrote:
It is worse than this article tells; my own research laboratory

Comprised of the toys from McDonald Happy Meals.

indicates that ADHD drugs increase violent crime by a factor that
unfortunately has to remain a very guarded secret, because of its
alarming implications!

Sure, fArtie. Only in your damaged brain.

But suffice it to say that ALL young people
on these zombie-like drugs MUST be taken off them immediately! There
are natural cures that should be tried at the very beginning of
treatment of this often-misdiagnosed spin-drome.

OH? Do list them.

Even the prestigious Institute of Scientific Medical and Psychiatric
Research (ISMPR) agrees with this assessment whwholeheartedly.

That institute does not exist. Just like your brain.

And if
it is good enough for them, it is good enough for everybody!

Good enough for a non-existent entity.


  #24  
Old June 7th 07, 12:55 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health
MothWrangler
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Default ADHD drugs linked to violent crime

Mark Probert wrote:

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:

The Institute finds your allegations not worthy of consideration and
considers your Cult a crack-pot organization to be easily dismissed
out of hand.



Imaginary institutes have no function.


I disagree, Mr. Probert!

Imaginary institutes provide employment opportunities for phony doctors,
places where phony doctors can do phony studies, which can then be
published in nonexistent journals.

If not for imaginary institutes, many phony doctors would be out of work.


Nancy
Unique, like everyone else


  #25  
Old June 7th 07, 02:34 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health
Mark Probert
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Default ADHD drugs linked to violent crime

MothWrangler wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:

The Institute finds your allegations not worthy of consideration and
considers your Cult a crack-pot organization to be easily dismissed
out of hand.



Imaginary institutes have no function.


I disagree, Mr. Probert!

Imaginary institutes provide employment opportunities for phony doctors,
places where phony doctors can do phony studies, which can then be
published in nonexistent journals.

If not for imaginary institutes, many phony doctors would be out of work.


fArtie should work on the name. I would think that his imaginary
institute could be called the Easter Bunny Institute or the Santa Claus
Institute.
  #26  
Old June 7th 07, 02:55 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
David Wright
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Default ADHD drugs linked to violent crime

In article . com,
Robert Schumann wrote:
It is worse than this article tells; my own research laboratory
indicates that ADHD drugs increase violent crime by a factor that
unfortunately has to remain a very guarded secret, because of its
alarming implications!


Gosh, here's fArtie again, in another of his aliases. I figure that
"Robert Schumann" is no more his real name than is "Sir Arthur," but
who knows?

Today, I even started to wonder what he looked like. My best guess is
something along the lines of that inbred banjo player in "Deliverance,"
only without any musical ability.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"Only George Bush could start a war for oil and not get any."
-- Bill Maher




But suffice it to say that ALL young people
on these zombie-like drugs MUST be taken off them immediately! There
are natural cures that should be tried at the very beginning of
treatment of this often-misdiagnosed spin-drome.
Even the prestigious Institute of Scientific Medical and Psychiatric
Research (ISMPR) agrees with this assessment whwholeheartedly. And if
it is good enough for them, it is good enough for everybody!

Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=...3&Ite mid=204

ADHD drugs linked to violent crime
NSW District Court Judge Paul Conlon is standing by his claims there's a
link between ADHD drugs and violent crime.

He says an increasing number of young people who come before his court
charged with violence were prescribed drugs like Ritalin at a young age. The
drug is used to treat attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder.

Despite assurances from doctors, Judge Conlon has told 2GB's Ray Hadley he's
concerned we're not getting the full story, and kids are being adversely
affected.

"Do we know all we need to know about the long term medical and mental
health effects on these young persons prescribed these drugs? I'm not sure
that we do," he said.

"If the medical profession, which indicated to me last week now know some of
these things, why are they not out there telling them to us?"




  #27  
Old June 7th 07, 04:33 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,misc.headlines
Mark Probert
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Default ADHD drugs linked to violent crime

David Wright wrote:
In article . com,
Robert Schumann wrote:
It is worse than this article tells; my own research laboratory
indicates that ADHD drugs increase violent crime by a factor that
unfortunately has to remain a very guarded secret, because of its
alarming implications!


Gosh, here's fArtie again, in another of his aliases. I figure that
"Robert Schumann" is no more his real name than is "Sir Arthur," but
who knows?

Today, I even started to wonder what he looked like. My best guess is
something along the lines of that inbred banjo player in "Deliverance,"
only without any musical ability.


Do NOT insult the inbred.


-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"Only George Bush could start a war for oil and not get any."
-- Bill Maher




But suffice it to say that ALL young people
on these zombie-like drugs MUST be taken off them immediately! There
are natural cures that should be tried at the very beginning of
treatment of this often-misdiagnosed spin-drome.
Even the prestigious Institute of Scientific Medical and Psychiatric
Research (ISMPR) agrees with this assessment whwholeheartedly. And if
it is good enough for them, it is good enough for everybody!

Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=...3&Ite mid=204

ADHD drugs linked to violent crime
NSW District Court Judge Paul Conlon is standing by his claims there's a
link between ADHD drugs and violent crime.

He says an increasing number of young people who come before his court
charged with violence were prescribed drugs like Ritalin at a young age. The
drug is used to treat attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder.

Despite assurances from doctors, Judge Conlon has told 2GB's Ray Hadley he's
concerned we're not getting the full story, and kids are being adversely
affected.

"Do we know all we need to know about the long term medical and mental
health effects on these young persons prescribed these drugs? I'm not sure
that we do," he said.

"If the medical profession, which indicated to me last week now know some of
these things, why are they not out there telling them to us?"



  #28  
Old June 7th 07, 06:09 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health
Jan Drew
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Default ADHD drugs linked to violent crime

http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=...ew&id=1733&Ite...


ADHD drugs linked to violent crime
NSW District Court Judge Paul Conlon is standing by his claims there's a
link between ADHD drugs and violent crime.


He says an increasing number of young people who come before his court
charged with violence were prescribed drugs like Ritalin at a young age. The
drug is used to treat attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder.


Despite assurances from doctors, Judge Conlon has told 2GB's Ray Hadley he's
concerned we're not getting the full story, and kids are being adversely
affected.


"Do we know all we need to know about the long term medical and mental
health effects on these young persons prescribed these drugs? I'm not sure
that we do," he said.


"If the medical profession, which indicated to me last week now know some of
these things, why are they not out there telling them to us?"



  #29  
Old June 7th 07, 07:11 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health
Raving
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Default ADHD drugs linked to violent crime

On Jun 6, 9:34 pm, Mark Probert wrote:
MothWrangler wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:


Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:


The Institute finds your allegations not worthy of consideration and
considers your Cult a crack-pot organization to be easily dismissed
out of hand.


Imaginary institutes have no function.


I disagree, Mr. Probert!


Imaginary institutes provide employment opportunities for phony doctors,
places where phony doctors can do phony studies, which can then be
published in nonexistent journals.


If not for imaginary institutes, many phony doctors would be out of work.


fArtie should work on the name. I would think that his imaginary
institute could be called the Easter Bunny Institute or the Santa Claus
Institute.


http://www.shortarmguy.com/easter2007c.jpg

  #30  
Old June 7th 07, 01:09 PM posted to misc.kids.health
Jeff
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Default ADHD drugs linked to violent crime

Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.2gb.com/index.php?option=...ew&id=1733&Ite...


ADHD drugs linked to violent crime
NSW District Court Judge Paul Conlon is standing by his claims there's a
link between ADHD drugs and violent crime.


He can stand behind his claim all he wants. But he doesn't have any
scientific data to back his claim. All he has is anecdote.

Did it ever occur to him that a lot more of the people who come before
his court have untreated ADHD? With treatment, they wouldn't be there?

He says an increasing number of young people who come before his court
charged with violence were prescribed drugs like Ritalin at a young age. The
drug is used to treat attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder.


Oh gee. People with ADHD have poor judgment and are impulsive. People
who have ADHD are more likely to take ADHD meds. This doesn't mean that
the meds are causing the behavior.

I a court in NYC, you will find that prostitutes are more likely to take
antibiotics for STDs. That doesn't mean that the antibiotics are causing
the STD or the prostitution.

Despite assurances from doctors, Judge Conlon has told 2GB's Ray Hadley he's
concerned we're not getting the full story, and kids are being adversely
affected.


The judge comments add nothing to the story, except a bias uneducated
view, IMHO.

"Do we know all we need to know about the long term medical and mental
health effects on these young persons prescribed these drugs? I'm not sure
that we do," he said.


Yeah, some studies show *less* crime when kids with ADHD take the proper
meds.

"If the medical profession, which indicated to me last week now know some of
these things, why are they not out there telling them to us?"


Because he's a judge, not a doctor. However, he is able to search pubmed
and find the documents himself.

Jeff
 




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