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Mercury & Autism - Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children ...[J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007]
"Robert" wrote in message news "Jan Drew" wrote in message t... "Robert" wrote in message . .. "Jeff" wrote in message news:%9ddi.1406$AR5.890@trnddc06... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:EmYci.2630$Fw5.1898@trndny02... JOHN wrote: So who says mercury has nothing to do with autism? Take a look at this paper, which shows a direct relationship. It shows a potential relationship. The number of subjects (26) is really small for such a study. And it doesn't show cause at all. At best, it is a suggestion that more studies should be done. jeff Actually, it shows you are a parrot for *organized medicine* who chooses to overlook the facts. Actually, I am not affiliated with any drug company or organized medicine in any way. I get no pay from them. I looked at the facts and drew my own conclusion. Han (a dentistry from Sweden, where they know the dangers of mercury in the mouth) coined aa phrase.... *I-don't-want-t-be-informed-attitude*. That's you, Jeff. That's incorrect. I want to be informed and am informed. You may disagree with me. Jeff J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007 Jun;70(12):1046-51. Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism versus controls. Adams JB, Romdalvik J, Ramanujam VM, Legator MS. Chemical and Materials Engineering, Arizona State University, Tempe, Arizona, USA. This study determined the level of mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism spectrum disorder (n = 15, age 6.1 +/- 2.2 yr) and typically developing children (n = 11, age = 7 +/- 1.7 yr). Children with autism had significantly (2.1-fold) higher levels of mercury but similar levels of lead and similar levels of zinc. Children with autism also had significantly higher usage of oral antibiotics during their first 12 mo of life, and possibly higher usage of oral antibiotics during their first 36 mo of life. Baby teeth are a good measure of cumulative exposure to toxic metals during fetal development and early infancy, so this study suggests that children with autism had a higher body burden of mercury during fetal/infant development. Antibiotic use is known to almost completely inhibit excretion of mercury in rats due to alteration of gut flora. Thus, higher use of oral antibiotics in the children with autism may have reduced their ability to excrete mercury, and hence may partially explain the higher level in baby teeth. Higher usage of oral antibiotics in infancy may also partially explain the high incidence of chronic gastrointestinal problems in individuals with autism. PMID: 17497416 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Mercury was taken out of children's vaccines and the autism rate went up. Up from what? Why did it go up before thimerosal was removed? You need a reading course. I see you could not answered the questions........ Why are you not concerned with the real danger of Mercury - in the air? Coal-fired power plants are being constructed by the dozens and put tons of Mercury into the air. Robert The *real* danger is in the mouth. http://www.holisticmed.com/dental/amalgam === http://www.y2khealthanddetox.c*om/mercuryinfo.html 14. Both Health Canada (1996) and world Health Organization (1991) consider dental amalgams to be the single largest source of mercury exposure for the general public, with amalgam potentially contributing up to 84% (WHO, 1991) or total daily intake of all forms of mercury from all sources, http://www.valleyadvocate.com/*articles/dental.html Autopsy studies in Sweden, Germany and the United States have also established that people with amalgams have significantly more mercury in their brains and kidneys than those without, and the mercury concentration increases with the number of amalgams. Furthermore, the World Health Organization has stated that amalgam fillings constitute the majority of mercury exposure for people with amalgams -- more than every other mercury source combined. This finding has been independently verified by the national insurance program Health Canada and by the National Institutes of Dental Research. === http://www.icnr.com/uam/hgcourse/M4/SciLit5.html The mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the other sources together. Why are you not concerned? |
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Mercury & Autism - Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children ...[J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007]
"Mark Probert" wrote : snip mainstream brainwashed opinion JOHN wrote: So who says mercury has nothing to do with autism? Take a look at this paper, which shows a direct relationship. J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007 Jun;70(12):1046-51. Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism versus controls. Adams JB, Romdalvik J, Ramanujam VM, Legator MS. Chemical and Materials Engineering, Arizona State University, Tempe, Arizona, USA. This study determined the level of mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism spectrum disorder (n = 15, age 6.1 +/- 2.2 yr) and typically developing children (n = 11, age = 7 +/- 1.7 yr). Children with autism had significantly (2.1-fold) higher levels of mercury but similar levels of lead and similar levels of zinc. Children with autism also had significantly higher usage of oral antibiotics during their first 12 mo of life, and possibly higher usage of oral antibiotics during their first 36 mo of life. Baby teeth are a good measure of cumulative exposure to toxic metals during fetal development and early infancy, so this study suggests that children with autism had a higher body burden of mercury during fetal/infant development. Antibiotic use is known to almost completely inhibit excretion of mercury in rats due to alteration of gut flora. Thus, higher use of oral antibiotics in the children with autism may have reduced their ability to excrete mercury, and hence may partially explain the higher level in baby teeth. Higher usage of oral antibiotics in infancy may also partially explain the high incidence of chronic gastrointestinal problems in individuals with autism. |
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Mercury & Autism - Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children ...[J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007]
"Mark Probert" wrote in message news:drudi.370$p45.41@trndny01... Robert wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:%9ddi.1406$AR5.890@trnddc06... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:EmYci.2630$Fw5.1898@trndny02... JOHN wrote: So who says mercury has nothing to do with autism? Take a look at this paper, which shows a direct relationship. It shows a potential relationship. The number of subjects (26) is really small for such a study. And it doesn't show cause at all. At best, it is a suggestion that more studies should be done. jeff Actually, it shows you are a parrot for *organized medicine* who chooses to overlook the facts. Actually, I am not affiliated with any drug company or organized medicine in any way. I get no pay from them. I looked at the facts and drew my own conclusion. Han (a dentistry from Sweden, where they know the dangers of mercury in the mouth) coined aa phrase.... *I-don't-want-t-be-informed-attitude*. That's you, Jeff. That's incorrect. I want to be informed and am informed. You may disagree with me. Jeff J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007 Jun;70(12):1046-51. Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism versus controls. Adams JB, Romdalvik J, Ramanujam VM, Legator MS. Chemical and Materials Engineering, Arizona State University, Tempe, Arizona, USA. This study determined the level of mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism spectrum disorder (n = 15, age 6.1 +/- 2.2 yr) and typically developing children (n = 11, age = 7 +/- 1.7 yr). Children with autism had significantly (2.1-fold) higher levels of mercury but similar levels of lead and similar levels of zinc. Children with autism also had significantly higher usage of oral antibiotics during their first 12 mo of life, and possibly higher usage of oral antibiotics during their first 36 mo of life. Baby teeth are a good measure of cumulative exposure to toxic metals during fetal development and early infancy, so this study suggests that children with autism had a higher body burden of mercury during fetal/infant development. Antibiotic use is known to almost completely inhibit excretion of mercury in rats due to alteration of gut flora. Thus, higher use of oral antibiotics in the children with autism may have reduced their ability to excrete mercury, and hence may partially explain the higher level in baby teeth. Higher usage of oral antibiotics in infancy may also partially explain the high incidence of chronic gastrointestinal problems in individuals with autism. PMID: 17497416 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Mercury was taken out of children's vaccines and the autism rate went up. But Robert, according to Kirby, that is being cause by cremations in China. The Chinese are loaded with Mercury... http://www.p2pays.org/ref/04/03295.pdf http://www.metroactive.com/papers/me...ions-0023.html http://ff.org/centers/csspp/library/...051229_07.html Cremations ban planned to cut mercury pollution NEWS from Liverpool, UK Dec 29 2005 By Graham Davies, Daily Post THOUSANDS of families could be prevented from cremating their relatives in north Liverpool because of environmental concerns. The city council has announced plans to stop cremations at Anfield Crematorium from April 1 because of a new law monitoring mercury pollution levels. Services would still take place at the listed building, which is the country's oldest crematorium, but coffins would then be transported across the city to Springwood Crematorium, in Allerton. Last night, council officials said Anfield, built in 1896, was unsuitable to fit a mercury filter but Springwood was. But the Rev Harry Ross, vicar of St Lukes church in Walton, criticised the proposals, which he said would spell the end of a tradition for generations of his parishioners. He said: "Why can't they use European money to fit it with a mercury filter? They can find money for all sorts of things. Why not this? "A cremation costs around £400 these days. Surely there must be some money the council can use to put this equipment in." He added: "I don't think people will realise what exactly will happen. It is a great indignity for the families if they are having the service there, but the coffin is then being carted across the city." A council spokesman said the idea was proposed because government guidelines requiring all crematoria to have filtering equipment will be implemented in 2012. He added: "We can't confirm anything yet, as these are just proposals at the moment. But what we are suggesting is from April 1 coffins would be transferred to Springwood by private ambulance. "Springwood is a modern building, built between 1974 and 1975. It can accommodate mercury filtering equipment at a cost of around £1m. "With Anfield being a Victorian listed building which doesn't have the space to house the equipment, it could cost as much as £3m. "We would have to exhume part of the cemetery and build a sandstone extension in keeping with the original building." In January, ministers announced that mercury filters must be fitted in all crematoria by 2012 in an effort to halve emissions. Mercury is released into the atmosphere when dental fillings are vaporised during cremation. Exposure to the metal is linked to damage of the brain, nervous system and fertility. Crematoria are responsible for 16% of the UK's mercury pollution. HYPERLINK "http://farns9.iserver.net/imanager/wizards/mm_compose.cgi?mbox=&mpos=1&send_to=graham.davies@ liverpool.com" \t "linkWin" === But, but ,but...it was OH so safe in the mouth when these people were alive. Anyone that can believe that will believe anything, like the *gang* here who get more ridiculous daily. |
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Mercury & Autism - Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children ...[J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007]
"Jan Drew" wrote in message t... "Robert" wrote in message news "Jan Drew" wrote in message t... "Robert" wrote in message . .. "Jeff" wrote in message news:%9ddi.1406$AR5.890@trnddc06... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:EmYci.2630$Fw5.1898@trndny02... JOHN wrote: So who says mercury has nothing to do with autism? Take a look at this paper, which shows a direct relationship. It shows a potential relationship. The number of subjects (26) is really small for such a study. And it doesn't show cause at all. At best, it is a suggestion that more studies should be done. jeff Actually, it shows you are a parrot for *organized medicine* who chooses to overlook the facts. Actually, I am not affiliated with any drug company or organized medicine in any way. I get no pay from them. I looked at the facts and drew my own conclusion. Han (a dentistry from Sweden, where they know the dangers of mercury in the mouth) coined aa phrase.... *I-don't-want-t-be-informed-attitude*. That's you, Jeff. That's incorrect. I want to be informed and am informed. You may disagree with me. Jeff J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007 Jun;70(12):1046-51. Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism versus controls. Adams JB, Romdalvik J, Ramanujam VM, Legator MS. Chemical and Materials Engineering, Arizona State University, Tempe, Arizona, USA. This study determined the level of mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism spectrum disorder (n = 15, age 6.1 +/- 2.2 yr) and typically developing children (n = 11, age = 7 +/- 1.7 yr). Children with autism had significantly (2.1-fold) higher levels of mercury but similar levels of lead and similar levels of zinc. Children with autism also had significantly higher usage of oral antibiotics during their first 12 mo of life, and possibly higher usage of oral antibiotics during their first 36 mo of life. Baby teeth are a good measure of cumulative exposure to toxic metals during fetal development and early infancy, so this study suggests that children with autism had a higher body burden of mercury during fetal/infant development. Antibiotic use is known to almost completely inhibit excretion of mercury in rats due to alteration of gut flora. Thus, higher use of oral antibiotics in the children with autism may have reduced their ability to excrete mercury, and hence may partially explain the higher level in baby teeth. Higher usage of oral antibiotics in infancy may also partially explain the high incidence of chronic gastrointestinal problems in individuals with autism. PMID: 17497416 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Mercury was taken out of children's vaccines and the autism rate went up. Up from what? Why did it go up before thimerosal was removed? You need a reading course. I see you could not answered the questions........ Why are you not concerned with the real danger of Mercury - in the air? Coal-fired power plants are being constructed by the dozens and put tons of Mercury into the air. Robert The *real* danger is in the mouth. http://www.holisticmed.com/dental/amalgam === http://www.y2khealthanddetox.c*om/mercuryinfo.html 14. Both Health Canada (1996) and world Health Organization (1991) consider dental amalgams to be the single largest source of mercury exposure for the general public, with amalgam potentially contributing up to 84% (WHO, 1991) or total daily intake of all forms of mercury from all sources, http://www.valleyadvocate.com/*articles/dental.html Autopsy studies in Sweden, Germany and the United States have also established that people with amalgams have significantly more mercury in their brains and kidneys than those without, and the mercury concentration increases with the number of amalgams. Furthermore, the World Health Organization has stated that amalgam fillings constitute the majority of mercury exposure for people with amalgams -- more than every other mercury source combined. This finding has been independently verified by the national insurance program Health Canada and by the National Institutes of Dental Research. === http://www.icnr.com/uam/hgcourse/M4/SciLit5.html The mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the other sources together. Why are you not concerned? Because I never knew anyone who had a problem with amalgam, I've had no problem, and the ADA says there is no problem, and all my previous and present dentists say no problem. I'm more concerned about the coal-fired power plants starting one a week in China and the many starting in the US putting tons of Mercury into the air. Why are you not concerned about the air? Robert |
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Mercury & Autism - Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children ...[J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007]
"Robert" wrote in message ... "Jan Drew" wrote in message t... "Robert" wrote in message news "Jan Drew" wrote in message t... "Robert" wrote in message . .. "Jeff" wrote in message news:%9ddi.1406$AR5.890@trnddc06... Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message news:EmYci.2630$Fw5.1898@trndny02... JOHN wrote: So who says mercury has nothing to do with autism? Take a look at this paper, which shows a direct relationship. It shows a potential relationship. The number of subjects (26) is really small for such a study. And it doesn't show cause at all. At best, it is a suggestion that more studies should be done. jeff Actually, it shows you are a parrot for *organized medicine* who chooses to overlook the facts. Actually, I am not affiliated with any drug company or organized medicine in any way. I get no pay from them. I looked at the facts and drew my own conclusion. Han (a dentistry from Sweden, where they know the dangers of mercury in the mouth) coined aa phrase.... *I-don't-want-t-be-informed-attitude*. That's you, Jeff. That's incorrect. I want to be informed and am informed. You may disagree with me. Jeff J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007 Jun;70(12):1046-51. Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism versus controls. Adams JB, Romdalvik J, Ramanujam VM, Legator MS. Chemical and Materials Engineering, Arizona State University, Tempe, Arizona, USA. This study determined the level of mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children with autism spectrum disorder (n = 15, age 6.1 +/- 2.2 yr) and typically developing children (n = 11, age = 7 +/- 1.7 yr). Children with autism had significantly (2.1-fold) higher levels of mercury but similar levels of lead and similar levels of zinc. Children with autism also had significantly higher usage of oral antibiotics during their first 12 mo of life, and possibly higher usage of oral antibiotics during their first 36 mo of life. Baby teeth are a good measure of cumulative exposure to toxic metals during fetal development and early infancy, so this study suggests that children with autism had a higher body burden of mercury during fetal/infant development. Antibiotic use is known to almost completely inhibit excretion of mercury in rats due to alteration of gut flora. Thus, higher use of oral antibiotics in the children with autism may have reduced their ability to excrete mercury, and hence may partially explain the higher level in baby teeth. Higher usage of oral antibiotics in infancy may also partially explain the high incidence of chronic gastrointestinal problems in individuals with autism. PMID: 17497416 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Mercury was taken out of children's vaccines and the autism rate went up. Up from what? Why did it go up before thimerosal was removed? You need a reading course. I see you could not answered the questions........ Why are you not concerned with the real danger of Mercury - in the air? Coal-fired power plants are being constructed by the dozens and put tons of Mercury into the air. Robert The *real* danger is in the mouth. http://www.holisticmed.com/dental/amalgam === http://www.y2khealthanddetox.c*om/mercuryinfo.html 14. Both Health Canada (1996) and world Health Organization (1991) consider dental amalgams to be the single largest source of mercury exposure for the general public, with amalgam potentially contributing up to 84% (WHO, 1991) or total daily intake of all forms of mercury from all sources, http://www.valleyadvocate.com/*articles/dental.html Autopsy studies in Sweden, Germany and the United States have also established that people with amalgams have significantly more mercury in their brains and kidneys than those without, and the mercury concentration increases with the number of amalgams. Furthermore, the World Health Organization has stated that amalgam fillings constitute the majority of mercury exposure for people with amalgams -- more than every other mercury source combined. This finding has been independently verified by the national insurance program Health Canada and by the National Institutes of Dental Research. === http://www.icnr.com/uam/hgcourse/M4/SciLit5.html The mercury vapor from dental amalgam alone is a bigger source than all the other sources together. Why are you not concerned? Because I never knew anyone who had a problem with amalgam, Wrong, here I am. I've had no problem, and the ADA says there is no problem, and all my previous and present dentists say no problem. So..you perfer to believe liars. I already knew that. http://jada.ada.org/cgi/content/abstract/131/2/241 THE WAR ON FRAUD AND ITS EFFECT ON DENTISTRY SIDNEY ROCKE, J.D. The fraudulent actions of a disreputable few people in the health care industry have caused enormous losses to government and private health care payers. Fraud can take a number of forms, but usually is based on some form of deceit. In response, law enforcement efforts have been aided by a number of recent anti-fraud statutes and significant new resources. The challenge to dentistry is to ensure that legitimate efforts to fight fraud do not unduly burden practitioners, the vast majority of whom are honest. I'm more concerned about the coal-fired power plants starting one a week in China and the many starting in the US putting tons of Mercury into the air. Why are you not concerned about the air? Robert I am, you should know I am concerned about any source of mercury. I have my priorities starting with *the greatest and number one source in people*. You, OTOH prefer to listen to liars. http://www.toxicteeth.org/pressRoom_..._polluters.cfm THE NATION Dentists Biggest Mercury Polluters, New Study Finds Health: The metal is widely used in fillings and ends up in the nation's waste water. By ELIZABETH SHOGREN TIMES STAFF WRITER June 6, 2002 WASHINGTON - Coal-fired power plants are notorious for being the biggest source of mercury pollution in the air. But now, new attention is being directed at another, much less known source of mercury contamination in water--dentists. A new report shows that dentists are the largest single source of mercury pollution in waste water funneled into the nation's treatment plants. Mercury is a potent toxin that can damage the human brain, spinal cord, kidney and liver, and is especially dangerous for unborn children. While many other sources of mercury pollution have drastically cut their use of the heavy metal, dentists continue to use it widely in fillings. "Pretty much all the mercury they're using gets released into the environment. Why aren't they doing more to reduce that use?" said Michael Bender, director of the Mercury Policy Project, a foundation-funded group that was one of the authors of the study. Power plants emit mercury into the air and it falls into streams and rivers. Many dentists flush it down their drains and it goes directly into waste-water treatment plants, which do not effectively filter it from the water. In a statement responding to the report, the American Dental Assn. said it was aware that some particles from fillings end up in waste water, and it urges dentists to follow proper procedures for handling and recycling the composite used for fillings, which they refer to as "amalgam." But the association argued that the mercury from their fillings remains in a form that is not harmful to humans. "However, a 1996 study found that when amalgam particles were subjected to simulated waste-water treatment processes, no soluble mercury was detected, even at a concentration of 1 part per billion," according to the statement. The group stressed that it was currently implementing a new plan to address the problem. The new report's authors said that dentists, through voluntary or mandatory measures, should trap their waste mercury before it flows into plumbing fixtures that have been contaminated with mercury for years. The report referred to a 2001 study by the Assn. of Metropolitan Sewerage Agencies that evaluated seven major municipal waste-water treatment plants and determined that dental uses were "by far" the greatest contributors to the mercury reaching their facilities. They were responsible for 40% of the load, three times more than the next largest contributor. Several other countries regulate releases of dental mercury. In Canada, a new standard requires dentists to trap the pieces of filling before they go down the drain. The goal is to reduce releases by 95% by 2005. In May, the New Hampshire Legislature became the first in the nation to pass legislation governing disposal methods for dental mercury. The California Assembly considered a measure to phase out the use of mercury in fillings but did not adopt it. The report suggests that mercury in dentistry has become the exception while other major users of mercury have changed their practices. In 1985 dental facilities used 3% of all the mercury used nationwide. Last year, although dentists used less mercury, their use accounted for 20% of all uses. Only two other industries--wiring devices and switches and chloralkali--used more. Gina Solomon, a physician who focuses on the health effects of mercury for the Natural Resources Defense Council, said that there was still controversy about whether the fillings put dental patients at risk. And she stressed that those who have such fillings should not get them removed, because taking them out heightens the chance of exposure. However, she said the science is clear that the mercury that goes down the drain can end up in the food chain. "There is scientific consensus that mercury that ends up in the waste water and water bodies will accumulate in the fish and pose a direct human health problem to people who eat the fish; that is uncontroversial and is something that can be fixed," Solomon said. If you want other stories on this topic, search the Archives at www.latimes.com/archive. For information about reprinting this article, go to www.lats.com/rights. Copyright 2002 Los Angeles Times |
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Mercury & Autism - Mercury, lead, and zinc in baby teeth of children ...[J Toxicol Environ Health A. 2007]
"Jan Drew" wrote:
14. Both Health Canada (1996) and world Health Organization (1991) consider dental amalgams to be the single largest source of mercury exposure for the general public, with amalgam potentially contributing up to 84% (WHO, 1991) or total daily intake of all forms of mercury from all sources, OK, Jan, this is simple - Please provide references for the Health Canada and WHO statements. Note that anti-amalgam web sites saying things about Health Canada and WHO are not references. Please provide citations of actual rulings by both organisations, such citations to have sufficient detail to enable readers to go to material published by the organisations. Can't do it? I didn't think so. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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