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Old July 6th 06, 07:15 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing
john
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Default OBGYN Against ACIP HPV Vaccine Decision

OBGYN Against ACIP HPV Vaccine Decision
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I am a Board Certified Obstetrician Gynecologist and have several objections
to the ACIP "recommendations".

Most of the following is taken directly form the Gardasil package insert.

First, the endpoint is the prevention of "High Grade disease", this
encompasses CIN II-III and adenocarcinoma in situ (AIS) which are "immediate
and necessary precursors" for squamous cell and adenocarcinoma of the
cervix. The MAXIMUM of the median follow up in any of their studies is FOUR
years. However, the time course from CIN III to invasive cancer averages
between 8.1 to 12.6 years. Claiming this vaccine "prevents cervical
cancer", with the longest median study subject being 4 years, is ludicrous.

Furthermore, the vast majority of women clear or suppress the virus to
levels not associated with CIN II or III and for most women this occurs
promptly. The duration of HPV positivity (which is directly related to the
likelihood of developing a high grade lesion or cervical cancer) is shorter,
and the likelihood of clearance is higher, in younger women.

Therefore, vaccinating these children against HPV with a vaccine that is of
unknown duration of efficacy will only postpone their exposure to an age
which they are less likely clear the infection on their own and be subject
to more severe disease. This would require an unknown number of boosters
and is a setup for complacency in the older population that is a recipe for
disaster. Furthermore, the likelihood for regression to a normal pap from
CIN II is 40%. This beats Gardasil's "best" reduction of CIN II-III of only
12%. In this case, "first do no harm" rules.

Furthermore the vaccine only "protects" against 4 high risk HPV subtypes.
We are currently screening for 13 "high risk" HPV subtypes. This may lead to
an increase in infection with other and possibly more aggressive subtypes.

The study of the vaccine in children and adolescents is limited to only
measuring the development of antibodies to the HPV subtypes in the vaccine.
There is absolutely no evidence that the vaccine prevents anything when
administered at this young age. Merck expects you to extrapolate their
adult data to the immune response in children. If they were really
interested in vaccine efficacy in children, should it not be studied
properly in children?

Currently, precancerous lesions are readily identifiable and treatable in
the developed world. The only utility of this vaccine may be in third world
countries in which regular screening is not available and cervical cancer is
still a major cause of morbidity and mortality. All of the data reported
and advertised by Merck is based on world wide morbidity and mortality
related to cervical cancer. Nowhere will you find specific data related to
developed nations.

I have personally witnessed the devastation caused by severe vaccine
reaction, including patients, their children, nurses and my own family. To
proceed with mass vaccination against this embellished "threat" is
irresponsible.

Clayton Young, M.D., F.A.C.O.G.


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Old September 14th 06, 08:01 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing
PF Riley
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Default OBGYN Against ACIP HPV Vaccine Decision

On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 07:15:23 +0100, "john" wrote:

OBGYN Against ACIP HPV Vaccine Decision
________________________________

I am a Board Certified Obstetrician Gynecologist and have several objections
to the ACIP "recommendations".

[...]

Clayton Young, M.D., F.A.C.O.G.


Funny, there is no FACOG by that name in their directory. Phony?

PF
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Old September 14th 06, 11:36 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing
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Default OBGYN Against ACIP HPV Vaccine Decision


PF Riley wrote:
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 07:15:23 +0100, "john" wrote:

OBGYN Against ACIP HPV Vaccine Decision
________________________________

I am a Board Certified Obstetrician Gynecologist and have several objections
to the ACIP "recommendations".

[...]

Clayton Young, M.D., F.A.C.O.G.


Funny, there is no FACOG by that name in their directory. Phony?

PF


It certainly wouldn't be surprising, given that the source is john of
whale.to.

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Old September 15th 06, 09:48 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing
Jan Drew
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Default OBGYN Against ACIP HPV Vaccine Decision


"cathyb" wrote in message
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PF Riley wrote:
On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 07:15:23 +0100, "john" wrote:

OBGYN Against ACIP HPV Vaccine Decision
________________________________

I am a Board Certified Obstetrician Gynecologist and have several
objections
to the ACIP "recommendations".

[...]

Clayton Young, M.D., F.A.C.O.G.


Funny, there is no FACOG by that name in their directory. Phony?

PF


It certainly wouldn't be surprising, given that the source is john of
whale.to.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....d38e9664d48279

Gosh, yet again the village idiot has nothing at all to say about the
subject of the thread.


 




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