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Old March 20th 08, 03:09 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
D. C. Sessions
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Default Give us answers on vaccines By DAVID KIRBY

In message , JOHN wrote:

Why do I say this? New documents have surfaced in the Poling case that shine
more light on how Hannah's vaccine injury led to autism.


Aside from the fact that Hanna Poling isn't autistic ...

One is left to wonder whether the author is just clueless or
perhaps intentionally lying?

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Old March 21st 08, 07:10 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.kids,talk.politics.medicine,misc.headlines
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Default Give us answers on vaccines By DAVID KIRBY


"D. C. Sessions" wrote in message
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In message
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Kulacz wrote:
On Mar 20, 11:26 am, "D. C. Sessions" wrote:
In message
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Kulacz wrote:

On Mar 20, 10:09 am, "D. C. Sessions" wrote:
In message , JOHN wrote:

Why do I say this? New documents have surfaced in the Poling case
that shine
more light on how Hannah's vaccine injury led to autism.

Aside from the fact that Hanna Poling isn't autistic ...

One is left to wonder whether the author is just clueless or
perhaps intentionally lying?

Should we make a list of the drug companies that have intentionally
lied?

And this has -- what -- to do with the topic at hand?


The fact that we cannot trust the data from the drug companies or the
FDA so informed decisions and accusations become difficult or
impossible without reliable data.


I know you're having a hard time understanding the point,
but this is in response to David Kirby, who launches the
whole topic from a blatant falsehood: that Hannah Poling
is autistic.


That was indeed the diagnosis.

Anything after that is about as useful as
conclusions derived from assuming a spherical cow of
uniform density.

If you'd like to start another topic based on some other
statement, by all means go ahead.

Some medical experts say it's difficult to fully assess the case because the
federal vaccine-court documents are sealed from public view.

Despite this, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice, which
reprersents the government in court cases, would not grant interviews or
explain to the AJC why it isn't releasing the records. HHS officials, who
administer the vaccine compensation fund, also declined to be interviewed,
citing the court's confidentiality requirements.


The average injury compensation to an individual in vaccine court has been
about $1 million. In fiscal year 2007, more than $91 million was awarded to
people harmed by vaccines.

http://www.thevoicemagazine.com/blog...d-to-autism-2/

http://vaccinesarebad.blogspot.com/

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Old March 24th 08, 09:08 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
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Default Give us answers on vaccines By DAVID KIRBY

Give us answers on vaccines

By DAVID KIRBY
Published on: 03/20/08
By now, many parents in America have heard of the Hannah Poling court case.
They know the government has acknowledged that vaccines contributed to
autism in at least one little girl from Georgia. Understandably, they are
worried, and they want answers.

But instead of frank talk from leading health officials, their concerns are
being met with stonewalling, denial and misinformation.

By refusing to address what really happened to Hannah - by commanding
parents to settle down and adhere to the nation's rigid immunization
regime - officials will only drive people away from vaccines in
anxiety-ridden droves.
But what if we could test children for underlying conditions that might
increase their risk of vaccine injury and autism? And what if we allowed
those at risk to slightly delay and spread out their shots?

It's a difficult, but not impossible, proposition. And I believe doing so
would reduce the rate of autism, seizure disorders and even asthma in some
children. And we would boost vaccination rates by restoring faith in the
nation's teetering immunization program.

Why do I say this? New documents have surfaced in the Poling case that shine
more light on how Hannah's vaccine injury led to autism.

A government document filed in the case last November conceded that Hannah's
vaccines had aggravated an underlying disorder of the mitochondria.
Mitochondria are the tiny powerhouses within each cell that convert food and
oxygen into energy. Government officials acknowledged that Hannah's disorder
led to a condition known as low cellular energy metabolism, which was
aggravated by vaccines and ultimately led to an autism diagnosis.

It was a tantalizing admission but did little to explain just how the
vaccines had aggravated the disorder or caused autism.

But on Feb. 21, the U.S. government made a second, unpublicized concession
in the case. In addition to triggering autism, officials now admitted,
Hannah's vaccines had also led to her "seizure disorder," or epilepsy.

And there was more. The November document claimed that Hannah had a
mitochondrial "disorder." But by February, this was modulated to a mere
mitochondrial "dysfunction."

That's because Hannah's underlying condition was asymptomatic and most
likely environmentally acquired. It was not some rare, grave, inherited
disease that would have progressed to autism anyway, as many officials
contend.

The November report said Hannah's vaccine reaction had "manifested" as
early-onset brain disease, with "features of autism spectrum disorder."

But the February report is more blunt. It says that Hannah's vaccines
"caused" her "autistic" brain disease.

But the real bombshell was this: Hannah's autism was caused by
vaccine-induced fever and overstimulation of her immune system, according to
court documents. Her low cellular energy and reduced metabolic reserves, due
to mitochondrial dysfunction, were overstressed by the contents of nine
vaccines (including mercury) at once.

The Cleveland Clinic defines low cellular energy metabolism disorder this
way: "The process of converting food and oxygen (fuel) into energy requires
hundreds of chemical reactions, and each chemical reaction must run almost
perfectly in order to have a continuous supply of energy. When one or more
components of these chemical reactions does not run perfectly, there is an
energy crisis, and the cells cannot function normally. As a result, the
incompletely burned food might accumulate as poison inside the body."

The cause of Hannah's mitochondrial dysfunction is up for debate, though
ample evidence exists to implicate heavy metals in air, water, food and
vaccines as possible suspects. But the government has acknowledged that low
cellular energy can increase the risk of immune system overdrive, and
regression into autism.

Now, one would think that investigating - and preventing - such
vaccine-induced overstimulation in susceptible children would be a top
priority of health officials. But it is not.

Dr. Julie Gerberding, director of the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention, has vowed to "adamantly" enforce the one-size-fits-all vaccine
schedule, no matter what happened to Hannah and other kids like her.

Frantic parents, desperate for answers, were admonished by Gerberding to
"set aside this very isolated, unusual situation" in so-called Vaccine
Court, even though "the court apparently made the decision that it is fair
to say that vaccinations may have been one of the precipitators."

Gerberding was either grossly misinformed, or lying.

To begin with, this "decision" was not made by the court at all, but by
medical personnel working for the Secretary of Health and Human Services,
Gerberding's boss.

More important, the Poling case is neither isolated nor unusual. At least 12
other autism-related claims have been paid out in Vaccine Court to date, and
perhaps hundreds more cases like Hannah's are pending.

Most striking is how typical Hannah's cellular dysfunction may be among
children with autism. While extremely rare in the general population, at two
per 10,000 people, it seems unusually common in autism - with estimates up
to 2,000 per 10,000.

Many opinion leaders are calling on the government to release all relevant
documents leading to the Poling concessions. The family has waived all
claims to privacy, and the public has a right to know.

For now, all we have is the CDC Web site, which says that "simultaneous
vaccination with multiple vaccines has no adverse effect on the normal
childhood immune system."

But did Hannah have a "normal" immune system? Are other kids out there also
metabolically primed for overstimulation from too many shots at once? Should
their vaccines be spread out?

Instead of answers, we get adamant silence. This is not a matter of national
security. It's a national emergency. Millions of parents are anxiously
waiting for their government to tell them what the hell is going on.

.. David Kirby, an investigative journalist, is author of "Evidence of Harm -
Mercury in Vaccines and the Autism Epidemic: A Medical Controversy"


 




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