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Old July 15th 07, 07:19 AM posted to soc.men,alt.child-support
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Default Man walks into office and kills ex-girlfriend over child support

Yeah. You read that right. He drove all the way from Arizona to Ukiah
in California and shot the succubus in the head. And then he walked
next door to the courthouse and surrendered. You gotta hand it to
him. There's only so much abuse a man can take before reacting. And
this is the kind of man that pushes back, violently.

But of course, since he's the wrong gender, the politically-incorrect
sex, and the abuse was done under the auspices of the law, heck, the
system is what made it possible for the "remote-control" abuse to
happen, he is going to suffer. Just imagine the judge's glee as he
sentenced him to four life terms.

When a man controls his wife's finances, its domestic violence.

When a woman controls her husband's finances, its child support or
alimony and it is business as usual.

UKIAH, Calif.-A man convicted of killing his former girlfriend
because she was trying to collect two decades' worth of child support
payments was sentenced to life in prison.

Howard Raff, 55, was sentenced Tuesday by a Mendocino County
Superior Court judge to four life terms in prison.

Raff was convicted in June of first-degree murder with three
special allegations-lying in wait, murder for financial gain and using
a firearm-in the shooting death of Virginia Larkin, 60.

Raff said in a videotaped confession that he drove from Arizona to
California to kill Larkin. He described walking into the Ukiah law
office where she worked in November of last year, shooting her in the
head, then turning himself in at the courthouse.

He told jurors the killing was justified because Larkin was trying
to bankrupt him. After dodging the court-ordered $200-per-month
payments for 22 years, the debt had grown to $85,500 with interest.

"It is incomprehensible to the court how a decision to kill can be
motivated by court-ordered child support," Judge Ronald Brown said at
the sentencing.

Raff said he planned to appeal his conviction.

Can you believe that? Its so terribly sad that two lives had to be
wasted because of an unfair system which profits by nailing men to
crosses. How many more men and women need to die before the bigwigs
agree that it is time to stop whipping the slaves? Of course, the
importance of men is not the same as that of women... I think one
woman dying is worth 100 or 150 men. Can anyone refresh me on what the
current comparable worth ratio is?

The man probably made a choice - either slave away for the next two
decades to pay the ever-growing amount (can you imagine what the
interest on $85,500 would be?) with the court-appointed thugs making
his life a living hell, with prison only a bout of unemployment away,
or end it all and make a statement.

This man is one of the walking wounded. But since he dared to visit
harm on a member of the royal sex, he is being punished accordingly.

I wonder how many life terms Clara Harris got? Or how about Mary
Winkler? How about any of the numerous women who hire other men to
murder their husbands?

Oh wait, they are not punished at all. The same way that a white
person could kill a negro and get away just a few short decades ago,
women are getting away today.

Raff is planning to appeal - my guess is that he planned to sacrifice
himself for the greater cause of men's rights. Its incredibly hard to
penetrate the lace curtain in matters like this, but I'll be waiting
for more news about his plight.

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Old July 15th 07, 07:26 AM posted to soc.men,alt.child-support
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Default Man walks into office and kills ex-girlfriend over child support

On Jul 14, 11:19 pm, " wrote:
Yeah. You read that right. He drove all the way from Arizona to Ukiah
in California and shot the succubus in the head.



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And then he walked
next door to the courthouse and surrendered. You gotta hand it to
him. There's only so much abuse a man can take before reacting. And
this is the kind of man that pushes back, violently.

But of course, since he's the wrong gender, the politically-incorrect
sex, and the abuse was done under the auspices of the law, heck, the
system is what made it possible for the "remote-control" abuse to
happen, he is going to suffer. Just imagine the judge's glee as he
sentenced him to four life terms.

When a man controls his wife's finances, its domestic violence.

When a woman controls her husband's finances, its child support or
alimony and it is business as usual.

UKIAH, Calif.-A man convicted of killing his former girlfriend
because she was trying to collect two decades' worth of child support
payments was sentenced to life in prison.

Howard Raff, 55, was sentenced Tuesday by a Mendocino County
Superior Court judge to four life terms in prison.

Raff was convicted in June of first-degree murder with three
special allegations-lying in wait, murder for financial gain and using
a firearm-in the shooting death of Virginia Larkin, 60.

Raff said in a videotaped confession that he drove from Arizona to
California to kill Larkin. He described walking into the Ukiah law
office where she worked in November of last year, shooting her in the
head, then turning himself in at the courthouse.

He told jurors the killing was justified because Larkin was trying
to bankrupt him. After dodging the court-ordered $200-per-month
payments for 22 years, the debt had grown to $85,500 with interest.

"It is incomprehensible to the court how a decision to kill can be
motivated by court-ordered child support," Judge Ronald Brown said at
the sentencing.

Raff said he planned to appeal his conviction.

Can you believe that? Its so terribly sad that two lives had to be
wasted because of an unfair system which profits by nailing men to
crosses. How many more men and women need to die before the bigwigs
agree that it is time to stop whipping the slaves? Of course, the
importance of men is not the same as that of women... I think one
woman dying is worth 100 or 150 men. Can anyone refresh me on what the
current comparable worth ratio is?

The man probably made a choice - either slave away for the next two
decades to pay the ever-growing amount (can you imagine what the
interest on $85,500 would be?) with the court-appointed thugs making
his life a living hell, with prison only a bout of unemployment away,
or end it all and make a statement.

This man is one of the walking wounded. But since he dared to visit
harm on a member of the royal sex, he is being punished accordingly.

I wonder how many life terms Clara Harris got? Or how about Mary
Winkler? How about any of the numerous women who hire other men to
murder their husbands?

Oh wait, they are not punished at all. The same way that a white
person could kill a negro and get away just a few short decades ago,
women are getting away today.

Raff is planning to appeal - my guess is that he planned to sacrifice
himself for the greater cause of men's rights. Its incredibly hard to
penetrate the lace curtain in matters like this, but I'll be waiting
for more news about his plight.



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Old July 15th 07, 08:57 AM posted to soc.men,alt.child-support
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Default Man walks into office and kills ex-girlfriend over child support

On Jul 15, 4:26 pm, Grizzlie Antagonist
wrote:
On Jul 14, 11:19 pm, " wrote:

Yeah. You read that right. He drove all the way from Arizona to Ukiah
in California and shot the succubus in the head.


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He should have just chosen the "proud dead and beat dad" path and paid
0.0 in ex-wife err child support rather than be set in concrete in a
2x2metre cell for life without parole.

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Old July 15th 07, 09:01 AM posted to soc.men,alt.child-support
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Default Man walks into office and kills ex-girlfriend over child support

On Jul 15, 12:57 am, "
wrote:
On Jul 15, 4:26 pm, Grizzlie Antagonist
wrote:

On Jul 14, 11:19 pm, " wrote:


Yeah. You read that right. He drove all the way from Arizona to Ukiah
in California and shot the succubus in the head.


YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!


He should have just chosen the "proud dead and beat dad" path and paid
0.0 in ex-wife err child support rather than be set in concrete in a
2x2metre cell for life without parole.




Or instead of turning himself in, he should have fled to a
jurisdiction with no extradition agreement.

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Old July 15th 07, 10:32 AM posted to soc.men,alt.child-support
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Default Man walks into office and kills ex-girlfriend over child support

On Jul 15, 1:19?am, " wrote:
Yeah. You read that right. He drove all the way from Arizona to Ukiah
in California and shot the succubus in the head. And then he walked
next door to the courthouse and surrendered. You gotta hand it to
him. There's only so much abuse a man can take before reacting. And
this is the kind of man that pushes back, violently.

But of course, since he's the wrong gender, the politically-incorrect
sex, and the abuse was done under the auspices of the law, heck, the
system is what made it possible for the "remote-control" abuse to
happen, he is going to suffer. Just imagine the judge's glee as he
sentenced him to four life terms.

When a man controls his wife's finances, its domestic violence.

When a woman controls her husband's finances, its child support or
alimony and it is business as usual.

UKIAH, Calif.-A man convicted of killing his former girlfriend
because she was trying to collect two decades' worth of child support
payments was sentenced to life in prison.

Howard Raff, 55, was sentenced Tuesday by a Mendocino County
Superior Court judge to four life terms in prison.

Raff was convicted in June of first-degree murder with three
special allegations-lying in wait, murder for financial gain and using
a firearm-in the shooting death of Virginia Larkin, 60.

Raff said in a videotaped confession that he drove from Arizona to
California to kill Larkin. He described walking into the Ukiah law
office where she worked in November of last year, shooting her in the
head, then turning himself in at the courthouse.

He told jurors the killing was justified because Larkin was trying
to bankrupt him. After dodging the court-ordered $200-per-month
payments for 22 years, the debt had grown to $85,500 with interest.

"It is incomprehensible to the court how a decision to kill can be
motivated by court-ordered child support," Judge Ronald Brown said at
the sentencing.

Raff said he planned to appeal his conviction.

Can you believe that? Its so terribly sad that two lives had to be
wasted because of an unfair system which profits by nailing men to
crosses. How many more men and women need to die before the bigwigs
agree that it is time to stop whipping the slaves? Of course, the
importance of men is not the same as that of women... I think one
woman dying is worth 100 or 150 men. Can anyone refresh me on what the
current comparable worth ratio is?

The man probably made a choice - either slave away for the next two
decades to pay the ever-growing amount (can you imagine what the
interest on $85,500 would be?) with the court-appointed thugs making
his life a living hell, with prison only a bout of unemployment away,
or end it all and make a statement.

This man is one of the walking wounded. But since he dared to visit
harm on a member of the royal sex, he is being punished accordingly.

I wonder how many life terms Clara Harris got? Or how about Mary
Winkler? How about any of the numerous women who hire other men to
murder their husbands?

Oh wait, they are not punished at all. The same way that a white
person could kill a negro and get away just a few short decades ago,
women are getting away today.

Raff is planning to appeal - my guess is that he planned to sacrifice
himself for the greater cause of men's rights. Its incredibly hard to
penetrate the lace curtain in matters like this, but I'll be waiting
for more news about his plight.


LOL..$200 a month is hardly being "nailed to a cross"

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Old July 15th 07, 01:05 PM posted to soc.men,alt.child-support
stern
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Default Man walks into office and kills ex-girlfriend over child support

On Jul 15, 4:32 am, Relayer wrote:
On Jul 15, 1:19?am, " wrote:





Yeah. You read that right. He drove all the way from Arizona to Ukiah
in California and shot the succubus in the head. And then he walked
next door to the courthouse and surrendered. You gotta hand it to
him. There's only so much abuse a man can take before reacting. And
this is the kind of man that pushes back, violently.


But of course, since he's the wrong gender, the politically-incorrect
sex, and the abuse was done under the auspices of the law, heck, the
system is what made it possible for the "remote-control" abuse to
happen, he is going to suffer. Just imagine the judge's glee as he
sentenced him to four life terms.


When a man controls his wife's finances, its domestic violence.


When a woman controls her husband's finances, its child support or
alimony and it is business as usual.


UKIAH, Calif.-A man convicted of killing his former girlfriend
because she was trying to collect two decades' worth of child support
payments was sentenced to life in prison.


Howard Raff, 55, was sentenced Tuesday by a Mendocino County
Superior Court judge to four life terms in prison.


Raff was convicted in June of first-degree murder with three
special allegations-lying in wait, murder for financial gain and using
a firearm-in the shooting death of Virginia Larkin, 60.


Raff said in a videotaped confession that he drove from Arizona to
California to kill Larkin. He described walking into the Ukiah law
office where she worked in November of last year, shooting her in the
head, then turning himself in at the courthouse.


He told jurors the killing was justified because Larkin was trying
to bankrupt him. After dodging the court-ordered $200-per-month
payments for 22 years, the debt had grown to $85,500 with interest.


"It is incomprehensible to the court how a decision to kill can be
motivated by court-ordered child support," Judge Ronald Brown said at
the sentencing.


Raff said he planned to appeal his conviction.


Can you believe that? Its so terribly sad that two lives had to be
wasted because of an unfair system which profits by nailing men to
crosses. How many more men and women need to die before the bigwigs
agree that it is time to stop whipping the slaves? Of course, the
importance of men is not the same as that of women... I think one
woman dying is worth 100 or 150 men. Can anyone refresh me on what the
current comparable worth ratio is?


The man probably made a choice - either slave away for the next two
decades to pay the ever-growing amount (can you imagine what the
interest on $85,500 would be?) with the court-appointed thugs making
his life a living hell, with prison only a bout of unemployment away,
or end it all and make a statement.


This man is one of the walking wounded. But since he dared to visit
harm on a member of the royal sex, he is being punished accordingly.


I wonder how many life terms Clara Harris got? Or how about Mary
Winkler? How about any of the numerous women who hire other men to
murder their husbands?


Oh wait, they are not punished at all. The same way that a white
person could kill a negro and get away just a few short decades ago,
women are getting away today.


Raff is planning to appeal - my guess is that he planned to sacrifice
himself for the greater cause of men's rights. Its incredibly hard to
penetrate the lace curtain in matters like this, but I'll be waiting
for more news about his plight.


LOL..$200 a month is hardly being "nailed to a cross"- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I guess we all dream of this stuff. But, they should just be dreams
and fantasies. Obviously, this woman made the right decision getting
away from this guy. Until now, hehehehe

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Old July 15th 07, 05:43 PM posted to soc.men,alt.child-support
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Default Man walks into office and kills ex-girlfriend over child support

I wonder how many years worth of child support that was. Is there a link to
this story? 18 years of support is ony 43000--and I know how bad interest
and "penalties" can be. He must have felt really trapped to do such a
thing!

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Yeah. You read that right. He drove all the way from Arizona to Ukiah
in California and shot the succubus in the head. And then he walked
next door to the courthouse and surrendered. You gotta hand it to
him. There's only so much abuse a man can take before reacting. And
this is the kind of man that pushes back, violently.

But of course, since he's the wrong gender, the politically-incorrect
sex, and the abuse was done under the auspices of the law, heck, the
system is what made it possible for the "remote-control" abuse to
happen, he is going to suffer. Just imagine the judge's glee as he
sentenced him to four life terms.

When a man controls his wife's finances, its domestic violence.

When a woman controls her husband's finances, its child support or
alimony and it is business as usual.

UKIAH, Calif.-A man convicted of killing his former girlfriend
because she was trying to collect two decades' worth of child support
payments was sentenced to life in prison.

Howard Raff, 55, was sentenced Tuesday by a Mendocino County
Superior Court judge to four life terms in prison.

Raff was convicted in June of first-degree murder with three
special allegations-lying in wait, murder for financial gain and using
a firearm-in the shooting death of Virginia Larkin, 60.

Raff said in a videotaped confession that he drove from Arizona to
California to kill Larkin. He described walking into the Ukiah law
office where she worked in November of last year, shooting her in the
head, then turning himself in at the courthouse.

He told jurors the killing was justified because Larkin was trying
to bankrupt him. After dodging the court-ordered $200-per-month
payments for 22 years, the debt had grown to $85,500 with interest.

"It is incomprehensible to the court how a decision to kill can be
motivated by court-ordered child support," Judge Ronald Brown said at
the sentencing.

Raff said he planned to appeal his conviction.

Can you believe that? Its so terribly sad that two lives had to be
wasted because of an unfair system which profits by nailing men to
crosses. How many more men and women need to die before the bigwigs
agree that it is time to stop whipping the slaves? Of course, the
importance of men is not the same as that of women... I think one
woman dying is worth 100 or 150 men. Can anyone refresh me on what the
current comparable worth ratio is?

The man probably made a choice - either slave away for the next two
decades to pay the ever-growing amount (can you imagine what the
interest on $85,500 would be?) with the court-appointed thugs making
his life a living hell, with prison only a bout of unemployment away,
or end it all and make a statement.

This man is one of the walking wounded. But since he dared to visit
harm on a member of the royal sex, he is being punished accordingly.

I wonder how many life terms Clara Harris got? Or how about Mary
Winkler? How about any of the numerous women who hire other men to
murder their husbands?

Oh wait, they are not punished at all. The same way that a white
person could kill a negro and get away just a few short decades ago,
women are getting away today.

Raff is planning to appeal - my guess is that he planned to sacrifice
himself for the greater cause of men's rights. Its incredibly hard to
penetrate the lace curtain in matters like this, but I'll be waiting
for more news about his plight.



  #8  
Old July 15th 07, 06:11 PM posted to soc.men,alt.child-support
Grizzlie Antagonist
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Posts: 5
Default Man walks into office and kills ex-girlfriend over child support

On Jul 15, 2:32 am, Relayer wrote:
On Jul 15, 1:19?am, " wrote:





Yeah. You read that right. He drove all the way from Arizona to Ukiah
in California and shot the succubus in the head. And then he walked
next door to the courthouse and surrendered. You gotta hand it to
him. There's only so much abuse a man can take before reacting. And
this is the kind of man that pushes back, violently.


But of course, since he's the wrong gender, the politically-incorrect
sex, and the abuse was done under the auspices of the law, heck, the
system is what made it possible for the "remote-control" abuse to
happen, he is going to suffer. Just imagine the judge's glee as he
sentenced him to four life terms.


When a man controls his wife's finances, its domestic violence.


When a woman controls her husband's finances, its child support or
alimony and it is business as usual.


UKIAH, Calif.-A man convicted of killing his former girlfriend
because she was trying to collect two decades' worth of child support
payments was sentenced to life in prison.


Howard Raff, 55, was sentenced Tuesday by a Mendocino County
Superior Court judge to four life terms in prison.


Raff was convicted in June of first-degree murder with three
special allegations-lying in wait, murder for financial gain and using
a firearm-in the shooting death of Virginia Larkin, 60.


Raff said in a videotaped confession that he drove from Arizona to
California to kill Larkin. He described walking into the Ukiah law
office where she worked in November of last year, shooting her in the
head, then turning himself in at the courthouse.


He told jurors the killing was justified because Larkin was trying
to bankrupt him. After dodging the court-ordered $200-per-month
payments for 22 years, the debt had grown to $85,500 with interest.


"It is incomprehensible to the court how a decision to kill can be
motivated by court-ordered child support," Judge Ronald Brown said at
the sentencing.


Raff said he planned to appeal his conviction.


Can you believe that? Its so terribly sad that two lives had to be
wasted because of an unfair system which profits by nailing men to
crosses. How many more men and women need to die before the bigwigs
agree that it is time to stop whipping the slaves? Of course, the
importance of men is not the same as that of women... I think one
woman dying is worth 100 or 150 men. Can anyone refresh me on what the
current comparable worth ratio is?


The man probably made a choice - either slave away for the next two
decades to pay the ever-growing amount (can you imagine what the
interest on $85,500 would be?) with the court-appointed thugs making
his life a living hell, with prison only a bout of unemployment away,
or end it all and make a statement.


This man is one of the walking wounded. But since he dared to visit
harm on a member of the royal sex, he is being punished accordingly.


I wonder how many life terms Clara Harris got? Or how about Mary
Winkler? How about any of the numerous women who hire other men to
murder their husbands?


Oh wait, they are not punished at all. The same way that a white
person could kill a negro and get away just a few short decades ago,
women are getting away today.


Raff is planning to appeal - my guess is that he planned to sacrifice
himself for the greater cause of men's rights. Its incredibly hard to
penetrate the lace curtain in matters like this, but I'll be waiting
for more news about his plight.


LOL..$200 a month is hardly being "nailed to a cross"




Sooner you than me.

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Old July 15th 07, 06:17 PM posted to soc.men,alt.child-support
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Default Man walks into office and kills ex-girlfriend over child support

On Jul 15, 12:11?pm, Grizzlie Antagonist
wrote:
On Jul 15, 2:32 am, Relayer wrote:



Sooner you than me.-


I paid almost 7 times that amount per week.



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Old July 15th 07, 06:22 PM posted to soc.men,alt.child-support
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Default Man walks into office and kills ex-girlfriend over child support

On Jul 15, 9:43 am, "teachrmama" wrote:
I wonder how many years worth of child support that was. Is there a link to
this story? 18 years of support is ony 43000--and I know how bad interest
and "penalties" can be.


The story said "two decades" of child support and yes, the interest is
that bad...I know. Then add to it the mistakes the agency makes and
it could even go higher.

He must have felt really trapped to do such a
thing!


It's not only feeling trapped, but the assholes rip off your kids and
then make you pick up the welfare tab and/or the new boyfriend's
shelter costs. What amazes me is that more men don't do something
like this. It shows how stoical and forgiving men really are.

Smitty

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Yeah. You read that right. He drove all the way from Arizona to Ukiah
in California and shot the succubus in the head. And then he walked
next door to the courthouse and surrendered. You gotta hand it to
him. There's only so much abuse a man can take before reacting. And
this is the kind of man that pushes back, violently.


But of course, since he's the wrong gender, the politically-incorrect
sex, and the abuse was done under the auspices of the law, heck, the
system is what made it possible for the "remote-control" abuse to
happen, he is going to suffer. Just imagine the judge's glee as he
sentenced him to four life terms.


When a man controls his wife's finances, its domestic violence.


When a woman controls her husband's finances, its child support or
alimony and it is business as usual.


UKIAH, Calif.-A man convicted of killing his former girlfriend
because she was trying to collect two decades' worth of child support
payments was sentenced to life in prison.


Howard Raff, 55, was sentenced Tuesday by a Mendocino County
Superior Court judge to four life terms in prison.


Raff was convicted in June of first-degree murder with three
special allegations-lying in wait, murder for financial gain and using
a firearm-in the shooting death of Virginia Larkin, 60.


Raff said in a videotaped confession that he drove from Arizona to
California to kill Larkin. He described walking into the Ukiah law
office where she worked in November of last year, shooting her in the
head, then turning himself in at the courthouse.


He told jurors the killing was justified because Larkin was trying
to bankrupt him. After dodging the court-ordered $200-per-month
payments for 22 years, the debt had grown to $85,500 with interest.


"It is incomprehensible to the court how a decision to kill can be
motivated by court-ordered child support," Judge Ronald Brown said at
the sentencing.


Raff said he planned to appeal his conviction.


Can you believe that? Its so terribly sad that two lives had to be
wasted because of an unfair system which profits by nailing men to
crosses. How many more men and women need to die before the bigwigs
agree that it is time to stop whipping the slaves? Of course, the
importance of men is not the same as that of women... I think one
woman dying is worth 100 or 150 men. Can anyone refresh me on what the
current comparable worth ratio is?


The man probably made a choice - either slave away for the next two
decades to pay the ever-growing amount (can you imagine what the
interest on $85,500 would be?) with the court-appointed thugs making
his life a living hell, with prison only a bout of unemployment away,
or end it all and make a statement.


This man is one of the walking wounded. But since he dared to visit
harm on a member of the royal sex, he is being punished accordingly.


I wonder how many life terms Clara Harris got? Or how about Mary
Winkler? How about any of the numerous women who hire other men to
murder their husbands?


Oh wait, they are not punished at all. The same way that a white
person could kill a negro and get away just a few short decades ago,
women are getting away today.


Raff is planning to appeal - my guess is that he planned to sacrifice
himself for the greater cause of men's rights. Its incredibly hard to
penetrate the lace curtain in matters like this, but I'll be waiting
for more news about his plight.



 




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