Mercury has not been out of vaccinations since 2001 ... please don't believe the Vac Industry Propaganda

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Health Lover

Regarding one of the Vaccination Lies being spread wide and far that
all mercury was removed from vaccinations in 2001 ... David Kirby
addresses that myth.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...s_b_89775.html
DAVID: They stopped making mercury containing vaccines right around
the end of 2001 Now, this stuff goes and gets shipped into warehouses.
Then it gets into the pipeline, that's when the expiration date is
placed on it, the day it leaves the warehouse. They stocked up on
mercury containing vaccines as they were transitioning into the
mercury free formula. For those years, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 and I'm
quite certain into 2004, a lot of this stuff was still sitting on
shelves.

In the meantime, we started giving the flu shot to pregnant women and
infant children, which still contains the full amount of mercury. We
never hit zero, and now we're back up.

Kirby Interview


"If a women who gets the flu shot is pregnant, the fetus will be
exposed to that. Then the child gets another flu shot at 6 months, 7
months and 18 months. With all the residual mercury in some of the other
shots, the child is getting about 85 micrograms of mercury, total exposure."

interview between Don Imus and David Kirby this morning:
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IMUS: Good morning Mr. Kirby. How are you?

DAVID: I'm good. It's been exactly 3 years ago when you and Diedre really
started bringing this to the people's attention. Boy, talk about "Ground
Hog Day". It just seems like we're beating the same issues all over again,
without getting anywhere.

IMUS. I thought it was kind of amusing to me, after Senator McCain said
what he said in Texas, which I'll ask you about in a second....to see my
name in a couple of columns blaming me for influencing him. When I've
never said anything of the kind. I've got my own suspicions, but, any way,
what exactly did Sen. McCain say now?

DAVID: Sen. McCain said, after being asked a question Texas by a woman
referring to the big court case, which was just conceded, in which the
government said that a girl's vaccine injury led to and resulted in an
ultimate diagnosis of autism. She asked him about it and he, to just about
everyone's surprise, said he believed there was strong evidence to
implicate the vaccine ingredient called thimerosal, in the rise in the
numbers of cases. He said the rise of cases is indisputable, meaning it's
not just better diagnosis, we have more autism in America today then we had
10 or 15 years ago. He's trying to figure out what is going on. He
recognizes there is a national emergency. It may not be the mercury in the
vaccines, it may not be the vaccines at all, but, until we get to the
bottom of this it's refreshing, to say the least, to hear a politician out
their talking about what a lot of other people are talking about. At some
point, if you want to get into some of the studies that are coming out,
McCain, who's been blasted in the last 24 hours, taking more "incoming"
that I've received in 5 years in just 24 hours. He is referring to actual
studies that have been published by very top flight scientists, and, he has
a very good medical and science staff. He would not have made this
statement flippantly, and, it didn't come out of nowhere.

IMUS: The next question: There is scientific evidence out there
suggesting that there is a definitive link?

DAVID: There's lots of science evidence, when taken together might suggest
a link. Or might suggest a mechanism. My position has always been that
this has not been proven one way or the other. Yes, there is evidence to
refute, there is more evidence everyday to support this theory. People who
oppose it, think this is over, and, I think it would serve them well to
take a minute or two, go back to Pubmed, look at the studies that did not
appear in the NY Times or on ABC news. We get filtered information in this
country, and, I frankly don't blame people for thinking that this is bunk,
baloney, proven over and done with. Anyone who brings it up is
crazy....because they have not been given access to the studies. The
American people have not been given all the information they need. They
need to go out and find it. It's there, look at the brain studies that
people from Harvard and Johns Hopkins. They are presenting with oxidative
stress, heavy metals and mercury in the brain. Look at the study in Child
Neurology that went back and looked at a previous study...lo and
behold...they found that children with autism do have higher levels of
mercury in their blood. A mistake was made in the original calculations
and some mitrochrondrial studies have just come out....continue to come
out....which are very germane to this court case. It all starts to fall
into place, and it is hard science. It is peer reviewed. People are
willfully ignoring it, some of them, they know its out there and they won't
look at it. Most of the people online who are saying that John McCain is
crazy, Don Imus is crazy, David Kirby is crazy....have not bothered to read
these studies. It's frustrating because you want to have a scientific
discussion but you are talking to people who only have half the picture.

IMUS: Talking with David Kirby here on the Imus program, in an effort to
get the audience to kill themselves. The vaccine manufacturers claim they
took thimerosal out of the vaccines when? Not the flu vaccines but most
vaccines.

DAVID: The media reports that all mercury came out of all shots in 2001.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

IMUS: What is the truth?

DAVID: Well, we don't know and the government won't tell us.

IMUS: Well, why don't the vaccine manufacturers tell us?

DAVID: They don't have to.

DAVID: They stopped making mercury containing vaccines right around the
end of 2001. Now, this stuff goes and gets shipped into warehouses. Then
it gets into the pipeline, that's when the expiration date is placed on it,
the day it leaves the warehouse. They stocked up on mercury containing
vaccines as they were transiting into the mercury free formula. For those
years, 2000, 2001, 2002, 1003 and I'm quite certain into 2004, a lot of
this stuff was still sitting on shelves. In the meantime, we started
giving the flu shot to pregnant women and infant children, which still
contains the full amount of mercury. We never hit zero, and now we're back
up. If a women who gets the flu shot is pregnant, the fetus will be
exposed to that. Then the child gets another flu shot at 6 months, 7
months and 18 months. With all the residual mercury in some of the other
shots, the child is getting about 85 micrograms of mercury, total exposure.
Which is, yes, much less than it used to be, but, we're not at zero. And
again, the mitrochrondial disease, at least for a subset of these kids,
given that they have that disease, they might be sensitive to any amount of
mercury, or any toxin that could set them over the edge.

IMUS: Then, in these vaccines, whether the mercury is used as a
preservative or not, a trace amount of mercury is used in all vaccines.

DAVID: That's correct. About 1/2 micrograms in most of the shots these
kids are getting. That's very, very little, in and of itself. The point
is, if you do have some type of allergic problem with this or you do have
an inability to secret it, it will accumulate in your body. I think the
evidence is pointing now, beyond just mercury, beyond just thimerosal. I
believe there are several things in our environment that can trigger
several different types of conditions and predisposition's that ultimately
manifest in symptoms we diagnose as autism. Whether it truly is classic
autism or not, you don't really care.

IMS: What are they?

DAVID: It may be genetics, because of mitrochrondial health, in other
words, cellular energy, because of a pre-exisitng autoimmune condition,
allergic condition. Given any set of those conditions, and then getting
any set of triggers, mercury in vaccines, the number and type of vaccine
we're giving now, pollution in the air, pesticides, flame retardants or
even just if a kid is set up for regression.....whatever gets there first,
I'm talking hypothetically, but, whatever gets there first may set off the
regression. In most cases in this country, that insult came in the form of
a vaccine.

IMUS: You know what I never understood? They warn people particularly
pregnant women, not to eat fish because of the extraordinary high levels of
mercury they found in fish. In fact, the NY Times did a study, went around
to sushi joints and they found an insane level of mercury in these various
fish. It's my understanding the form of mercury in fish is not as lethal
as the form of mercury in vaccines. So, what has never made sense to me,
if they don't want you to eat a less lethal form of mercury in fish, they
think it's okay or fine to inject any amount of mercury into the
bloodstream of an infant. Just on a common sense level, sounds to me
INSANE!

DAVID: Some people think it is. It's certainly contradictory, that the NY
Times reported the ultra high levels of mercury in Tuna, which means
environmental levels in general are going up. They reported New Jersey is
trying to implement mandatory flu vaccines for kids going to school.
Everyone should go online right now and look up the flu vaccine. Look up
the product insert. It will say, and don't quote me exactly, something
like "this product has not been studied in pregnant women. The
reproductive effects are unknown. The impact on the fetus is unknown.
this product is not indicated for pregnant women unless medically
necessary".

IMUS: Now you are not saying, I know I'm not saying, that there is a
definitive, drop dead link between autism and thimerosal in vaccines. What
you're saying and what I'm saying is, at some point, we need to all reach a
definitive scientific determination if, in fact that is the case. Is that
what you're saying?

DAVID. Absolutely.

IMUS: Okay, so why do people characterize you and others, and me, though
I'm less to the story than anyone else, my wife is a big part of the story
and so are you....why are you all characterized as being crazy when you are
not saying what they say you are saying?

DAVID: If you sat down and read only the studies the people seem to be
reading...and you ignore the studies that people like me and Diedre read,
you would come to the same conclusion....David Kirby is crazy, what is he
talking about? People need to do their own homework. Listen, I think the
biggest problem here is we're all operating in a vacuum. This court case
that was just conceded is a confidential document. The government does not
think we should be able to see it.

IMUS: Now, you're talking about the vaccine court?

DAVID: I'm talking about the vaccine court. Now the family that just won
this settlement can go back to court and ask permission of the government
to talk about what happened to their child.

IMUS; What did the vaccine court determine?

DAVID: They determined this child have an underlying microchrondrial
disorder, which produces low cellular energy and was aggravated by her
vaccines. She got 9 vaccines in 1 day. 5 shots....9 vaccines. Within
months she regressed into autism. In fact, she was diagnosed with
full-blown autism.

IMUS: Why haven't we read about that in the NY Times or seen it on NBC
nightly news?

DAVID: Well, the NY Times is not particularly interested in this story.
There are reporters out there this week trying to cover it, but, until the
family gets permission from government to speak, I'm not sure how much
coverage it actually is going to get. You know, I love being on your show,
but, I wish instead of me being here this morning, you have somebody from
the HHS. Because what we basically have over there is a wall of silence.
Why is it not okay to talk about this? Why is this confidential? Exactly
whose interests are being protected if the family says it's perfectly okay
to talk about this....and...the family wants to talk about it? Why is the
government saying we can't talk about it? Those rules are in place to
protect the privacy of the family, which has already been waived.

IMUS: We're out of time .....thank you Mr. Kirby;

On Mar 5, 4:10*am, "JOHN" wrote:
Kirby Interview

And Kirby, as usual, is wrong.

Here is one glaring example of how wrong he is.

DAVID: *The media reports that all mercury came out of all shots in 2001..
Nothing could be further from the truth.

IMUS: *What is the truth?

DAVID: *Well, we don't know and the government won't tell us.

Some journalist this doofus is! His "researching" is so bad that
he.probably misses with the Charmin. Of course, he could also be
lying.

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/ACIP/minutes/acip-min-feb02.doc

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ytlt43

Update on Thimerosal Issues
Doctor Roger Bernier updated the committee on the progress to provide
a thimerosal-free vaccine supply in the U.S. When the I.O.M.
committee took a different approach than that of the A.C.I.P., an ad
hoc A.C.I.P. workgroup was formed in October 2000 drafted a
recommendation to cease use of these vaccines by March 31, 2002.

However, the changes in the D.T.a.P. supply delayed issuance of that
statement, and the supply is still not normal. Since the Hep B and
Hib supply is adequate, the A.C.I.P. may wish to pursue a different
course for those.

Mr. Dean Mason presented a chart of the thimerosal-containing
vaccines/toxoids in the pediatric schedule and under the C.D.C.
contract (not all of which are licensed in the U.S.). N.I.P.
estimated the amount of thimerosal in provider vaccine inventories in
a survey conducted September 20, 2001 to February 20, 2002. The
targets were a convenience sample of providers getting site visits
from public health officials across the country. Inventory counts
were done of all refrigerators for D.T.a.P., Hib, and hep B pediatric
vaccines. The thimerosal classification was based on the lot number
information, which was verified by the manufacturers.

In September 2001, 225 sites were canvassed, and 447 by February
2002. The decline in thimerosal-containing vaccine went from 5.6
percent to 1.9%, from 33,500 doses out of 63,600; to 2,796 doses out
of 149,147. These were delineated by D.T.a.P., D.T.P., Hib, hep B-
Hib, and hep B. Hep B rose from 4.95 percent to 7.5%; the proportion
that is pediatric (10 microgram) versus adolescent versus adult (5
microgram) still requires evaluation. However, the N.I.P. thinks that
most of it is pediatric.

During the visits, the providers were surveyed about thimerosal-
containing vaccines in their inventories. Of the 447 interviews, 83.5
percent reported no thimerosal-containing vaccines in stock at any
time since October 2001. Only 25.3% said they were aware of
the "voluntary exchange programs" implemented by G.S.K. and Merck to
replace the thimerosal-preservative vaccines with thimerosal-free
ones. Only 2.9 percent had exchanged vaccines, with the following
reasons given: unaware of the program, no thimerosal-containing
vaccines in inventory; not worth the effort; will exchange after
expiration.

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So, Mr. Kirby, what do you have to say now?

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/0...nation-racket/

Time To End Profit Driven Mandatory Vaccination Racket

by Evelyn Pringle / February 12th, 2008

The push to keep adding more vaccines to the mandatory schedules comes
directly from a purely profit motivated industry and a recent investor
report estimates that the world-wide market will quadruple from about
$4.3 billion in 2006 to more than $16 billion in 2016, with the
biggest boost coming from kids in the US.

A November 2007 report entitled, “Pipeline and Commercial Insight:
Pediatric and Adolescent Vaccines,” authored by vaccine analyst,
Hedwig Kresse, for the independent market analyst Datamonitor
discusses the future outlook for vaccine profits.

The report provides an assessment of products and a patient-based
forecast of market size and coverage rates to the year 2016, and
predicts that the introduction of high price vaccines will induce
rapid growth in the pediatric and adolescent vaccines market.

The report predicts that due to the “promising commercial potential”
of new, high-price vaccines, the pediatric and adolescent market will
quadruple from approximately $4.3 billion in 2006, to over $16 billion
by 2016, across the US, the EU-five including France, Germany, Italy,
Spain, and the UK, and Japan.

The crucial factor for success in the pediatric market, the report
notes, is the introduction of a product into national vaccination
schedules. “Along with reimbursement, this virtually guarantees the
rapid uptake and continuously high coverage rates in the target
population,” Ms Kresse states.

As an example, she cites Wyeth’s Prevnar, as the first premium price
vaccine launched in the US in 2000 for vaccinating infants against
pneumonia and meningitis.

Since then, Prevnar has been added to the childhood vaccination
schedules in the US and EU-five despite its high price of nearly $320
for the 4-dose regimen. In 2006, Global sales reached almost $2
billion, making Prevnar the first vaccine to attain blockbuster
status, according to the report. By 2016, Datamonitor expects the
total value of the infant market for pneumococcal vaccines to increase
to $2.3 billion.

In June 2006, Merck’s Gardasil was approved for cervical cancer.
Because it was the first vaccine offered as a preventive measure for a
form of cancer, its approval generated tremendous public attention
along with pressure for healthcare authorities to make the vaccine
available to teenage girls at a cost of $360 for 3 doses.

“Although most cases of cervical cancer in the developed world can be
prevented through the existing pap smear screening programs, the
expensive HPV vaccination has been recommended and is reimbursed for
teenage girls across the US and Europe,” Ms Kresse reports.

She notes that this decision is driven more by public pressure and
excitement about the opportunity to vaccinate against cancer rather
than by real need. The widespread publicity has led to a good uptake
in the target group of adolescent girls, which is usually hard to
reach for vaccination, Ms Kresse points out to investors.

Datamonitor sees a huge commercial opportunity in HPV vaccines, with
annual sales of $1.4 billion in teenage girls for the seven major
markets by 2016 and a cumulative catch-up opportunity in women aged
13-26 that could add up to over $17 billion until 2016.

But Ms Kresse warns investors that the “lack of medical need” for
rotavirus vaccines such as RotaTeq will limit their uptake in most
markets. RotaTeq is advertised to combat diarrhea that usually affects
infants under the age of two, and was introduced by Merck in the US in
2006, at a price of $200 for the three-dose regimen.

According to Ms Kresse, many countries, but not the US, have refused
to add the vaccine to their schedules due to cost-benefit reasons. “In
the developed world, rotavirus diarrhea is rarely severe for small
infants and quick and efficacious treatment is already available,” she
writes. “Consequently, healthcare authorities see no need to widely
introduce a very expensive vaccine.”

Datamonitor estimates that annual sales will remain limited to
approximately $1 billion across the 7 major markets by 2016 and
predicts that the US will account for the majority of sales, being the
only country to have recommended the rotavirus vaccine for all
infants.

Wyeth’s Prevnar vaccine came on the market in 2000 and is recommended
for children under 2. The vaccine was hailed as a breakthrough and had
sales of more than $1.5 billion in 2006. Prevnar is given as four
shots to children between 2 and 15 months.

On September 18, 2007, NewsMax reported that the vaccine has
dramatically curbed pneumonia and other serious illnesses in children
but is also having an unfortunate effect: “promoting new superbugs
that cause ear infections.”

According to NewsMax, doctors reported finding the first such germ
that is resistant to all drugs approved to treat childhood ear
infections and 9 toddlers in Rochester, N.Y., have had the bug and
that it also may be turning up elsewhere.

It is a strain of strep bacteria not included in the pneumococcal
vaccine. Prevnar prevents seven strains responsible for most cases of
pneumonia, meningitis and bloodstream infections. But dozens more
strains exist and some have become resistant to antibiotics since the
vaccine combats the more common strains.

If the new strains continue to spread, “it tells us the vaccine is
becoming less effective” and needs to be revised, Dr Dennis Maki,
infectious diseases chief at the University of Wisconsin-Madison
Hospitals and Clinics, told NewsMax.

A new study in the November 8, 2007 New England Journal of Medicine by
researchers at Oregon Health & Science University, supported by the
United States Public Health Service, suggests that the schedule for
vaccinating and revaccinating against diseases should be reevaluated
and adjusted.

The study found that in many cases, the established duration of
immunity for vaccines is greatly underestimated, which means that
people are getting booster shots when their immunity levels do not
require it and those antibody responses caused by viruses such as
measles mumps, and rubella remained at protective levels for several
decades and in most cases, for life.

The research also reconfirmed a previous finding by Slifka and his
colleagues: that the duration of immunity after smallpox vaccination
is much longer than previously thought. In that earlier study
published in the journal Nature Medicine in 2003, these OHSU
researchers observed surprisingly long-lived antiviral antibody
responses but they were unable to measure the slow rate of decline.

The study indicates that the duration of immunity after smallpox
vaccination is maintained with a calculated half-life of 92 years and
that a person who has received the primary series of tetanus vaccine
is likely to be protected for 3 decades.

Experts say we have allowed ourselves and our children to be overdosed
through a culture dominated by industry marketing influence which has
now become dangerously out of control and detrimental to our
children’s health. “In the 21st century, it is unacceptable to be
marketing medication to infants and children that may not work,” Dr
Steven Czinn, chair of the department of pediatrics at the University
of Maryland School of Medicine, told Reuters on October 11, 2007.

In the November 19, 2007 Huffington Post article, “Over Medicated and
Over-Vaccinated: The Unintended Consequence of Medicines Meant to
Protect,” Deirdre Imus asks, “Where are the conflict-free studies that
prove giving infants and children 49 immunizations - most of them by
age 5, are safe and effective?”

She points out that studies have provided evidence that the
over-vaccination of dogs and cats can result in numerous maladies
including cancer, skin and ear conditions, arthritis, allergies,
diabetes, aggression, behavior problems and other immune system
dysfunctions. “There is even a name for the conditions caused by
animal over-vaccination, vaccinosis,” she notes.

Ms Imus also points out that the mercury-containing preservative,
thimerosal, used in vaccines for over 50 years was removed from animal
vaccines in 1992.

“Unfortunately for the kids,” she writes, “it remained in children’s
vaccines for another decade and remains in some vaccines like the
influenza (25 micrograms) and tetanus vaccine (25 micrograms) today
and in trace amounts (3 micrograms) in some immunizations.”

She says most people do not realize is that any liquid waste
containing more than 200 parts per billion (ppb) mercury must be
deposited at a hazardous waste site and that drinking water cannot
exceed 2 ppb mercury.

“But when the influenza vaccines arrive and are injected into pregnant
woman and infants as young as six months, those vaccines contain
50,000 ppb mercury,” Ms Imus notes.

This amount of mercury is 250 times higher than hazardous waste, she
notes, and according to EPA guidelines, this amount can only be
considered safe if a person weighs 550 pounds. “Even trace amounts of
mercury in vaccines can be anywhere from 600 to 2000 ppb,” she warns.

On November 13, 2006, PutChildrenFirst.org, a parent-led organization
advocating vaccine safety, issued a press release to announce the
results of a survey conducted October 27-30, 2006, by Zogby
International of over 9,000 Americans to learn their plans for getting
flu shots, their knowledge of its ingredients, and who they hold
responsible for making sure vaccines are safe.

The survey showed that an overwhelming majority of Americans were
unaware that most flu shots contain mercury and that they would refuse
a shot with mercury. After learning that mercury is an ingredient, 74%
of those polled said they were less likely to get a flu shot and 86%
of parents said they were less likely to allow their child to get a
shot.

Lisa Handley is a founding parent of PutChildrenFirst.org, whose son
Jamison had an adverse reaction to a flu shot with mercury in 2003. “I
know firsthand how life-changing a flu shot with mercury can be, since
our son began his regression into autism after his flu shot,” she
states.

“With everything we know about the dangers of mercury and the havoc it
can wreak on young, developing brains, there is no excuse for any
vaccine to contain mercury,” says Lyn Redwood, RN, MSN, President of
SafeMinds, a nonprofit organization committed to ending
mercury-induced neurological disorders.

“The survey reveals that Americans are overwhelmingly in the dark
about what is in most flu shots,” Ms Redwood stated in the press
release.

“They do not want a known neurotoxin injected into their children, and
they believe Congress and medical professionals must be more vigilant
about keeping vaccines safe and mercury-free,” she added.

PutChildrenFirst also advises that two recent studies in leading
medical journals admitted that limited data exists to support the
effectiveness of flu vaccines. One study, in the Journal of the
American Medical Association, noted that, “there is scant data on the
efficacy and effectiveness of influenza vaccine in young children,”
the release notes.

According to Ms Imus, we are beginning to see prescribed vaccines,
like the whole cell DPT and Rotovirus, which are later found to be
unsafe.

“While physicians warn the public about the over use of antibiotics,”
she points out, “it is the physicians themselves that over-prescribed
these antibiotics for every ailment under the sun.”

“And like antibiotics,” she writes, “every time a new vaccine was
developed, it quickly found its way onto the immunization schedule
along with the recommended booster shots.”

“We are now reaping the unintended consequences of the overuse of
these medical interventions,” she states. “Instead of being healthier,
we have a nation of very sick children.”

Forcing parents to inject poisonous concoctions into innocent,
helpless children against their will is a gross violation of their
most basic parental rights.

Evelyn Pringle is an investigative journalist focused on exposing
corruption in government and corporate America.

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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On Mar 5, 4:10 am, "JOHN" wrote:
Kirby Interview

And Kirby, as usual, is wrong.

Here is one glaring example of how wrong he is.

DAVID: The media reports that all mercury came out of all shots in 2001.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

IMUS: What is the truth?

DAVID: Well, we don't know and the government won't tell us.

Some journalist this doofus is! His "researching" is so bad that
he.probably misses with the Charmin. Of course, he could also be
lying.

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/ACIP/minutes/acip-min-feb02.doc

Poor Mark never learns.

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