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The Business of Child Stealing in Florida

http://www.nolanchart.com/article4132.html

American taxpayers fund a racket that wrenches the stomach. That is CPS.
Some of those involved claim their are just following orders, others
just pocket the bounty on children wrenched from their parent's arms.

Nuremberg answered the question of orders; profiting from human
trafficking should be a capital offense.by Melinda Pillsbury-Foster
(Libertarian)
Saturday, June 28, 2008

Under 5 years, blond, blue-eyed - $6,000.00. a top of the line product


We are going to take you behind the lies into the ugly truth that is
destroying families for profit every day, in every community across
America. You won't want to believe it but when you see their faces,
hear their voices, you will understand why this is happening and what it
means to your own life, even if you don't have children.


The same system that views children as commodities to be sold also has
plans for you. There is a solution and we will get to that.


The CPS steals children using the system paid for by citizens who
believe it is being used to protect those in need. That is a fraud; the
system actually pumps money into the personal accounts of all those
involved in the system, converting children into cash while destroying
them and their families. The number of children who emerge from the
system, able to function normally, are near zero. Some are never seen
again.


The system used includes three stages. The first phase is to shock and
intimidate the parents into consenting to let their children be
processed into the system. The second phase is to force parents,
terrified for their children, to begin a process of 'case management.'
That process is a template that is designed to push the parents into
emotional meltdown and bankruptcy. The third phase is to sever the
parental rights entirely and sell the children.


In the wake of this trauma families are atomized, destroyed. Parents
and grandparents never again see the children who connect them to the
future. Children lose their past and the anchoring each of us needs to
develop into a healthy human being.


Those who carry the process through the stages are well compensated.
Agents, Case workers, judges, physicians, clerks, and others expect and
receive compensation for services often not even delivered.
Compensation takes place through corporations. State employees who fail
to take children out of homes are penalized; many of these leave the
system which has been converted from a system originally intended to
help families to one that profits those in control.


Across the country, CPS experienced high turn overs in case workers
struggling under impossible work loads for many years. Good people,
motivated to help struggling families were frustrated and unable to
help; those are the kinds of caseworkers who simply quit. Cases of
extreme abuse while children were in foster care were common. Nothing
about the system gave cause for hope it was working.

http://www.liftingtheveil.org/turnover.htm

Then the picture changed. The idea that instead of providing services
the system as a whole should move to the model of generating income took
hold as the concept of privatization was widely adopted by government.
Privatization, introduced during the Reagan Years, was pushed by think
tanks that saw government, a corporation itself, as the logical partner
for other large corporate interests. Children,

http://www.sp2.upenn.edu/crysp/repor...n/Chapter3.pdf

roads,

http://www.texasturf.org/

military services, each of these and more were recalibrated to provide
income to those in control. In this way, the problem with social
services created an opening that in the late 1990s allowed the least
ethical to profit from the pain of others.


PL 105-89 (HR 867), passed into law November 19, 1997, was intended to
ensure that children who could not be reunited with their birth families
could be placed in loving homes. But those entrusted to carry out the
desperately needed changes found the measure enabled a very different
agenda. CPS agents and caseworkers could be trained to look at their
industry as a profit center. The system began to view children as
product to be harvested and parents as barriers to be demolished.


The system became a template for kidnapping, carried out by barely
educated caseworkers who were told that they made the law. This itself
had become a tenet of belief held by those in power as the foundations
of Constitutional law continued to be eroded by a judiciary who
graduated from law school ignorant of America's foundational documents.
The shift from Constitutional law to statute and whim of court,
low-level government employee, and law enforcement is documented in "The
Anti-Government Movement Guidebook," published by the National Center
for State Courts in1999.

http://www.coppercards.com/law/docs/


The stage was set and the feeding frenzy was about to begin.


The process goes through three stages of slow death; ripped from their
families the children are bewildered, afraid, vulnerable to the system.
The process hinges on secrecy and an asserted immunity from
accountability for all involved. Power, through the official but
unacknowledged transfer from the Constitution to government by statute,
code and whim, renders all of those outside government vulnerable.
Caught in that process parents lose track of all the things that brought
happiness and normality to their lives. Years later this will mark
them. Most will never recover.


This is the story of three families. Each of their stories is still in
motion because the pain never stops.


Stage One
http://www.mymanatee.org/

Manatee County, Florida has long made a business of stealing children.
Families who settle there do not know that, however. They are attracted
to the weather, the beauty of the area. If they knew they would never
settle anyplace in Florida, which is arguably has the most corrupt CPS
system in the nation. The County is run by a Board of Commissioners who
meet at this well polished table.

http://www.mymanatee.org/

Children are a commodity for which there is a steady and growing market
both in the United States and across the world. Child sex-slaves arrive
in Europe and elsewhere from unspecified locations; children taken from
homes routinely end up in the porn industry. It has been going on for
many years but since it did not impact most of us it was easy to ignore.
But as counties across the country have cycled down into bankruptcy
the need to pump harder for every buck to be made has become more
compelling. Today it is not just the most vulnerable who are targeted
but families that would before have been passed over as too well
connected. In Manatee County the pumping is in fast forward.



Monday, June 2nd 2008

The two young sons of the Roberts were dropped off at the home of their
babysitter, Christina Holbrook, residence11534 57th Street Circle East,
Parrish, Florida. Both parents work. Michelle and James Roberts are
both veterans of the US Navy who met while in service to their country.
Both came from families with long and honorable histories of serving
in the military.


Their oldest son, had been disciplined by his father the day before for
jumping up and down on his baby brother, a potentially life-threatening
activity. Spanking was the kind of discipline James himself experienced
as a child growing up in Tennessee. The spanking had left a slight
bruise.


CPS arrived at the babysitter's home at 9:30am. They proceeded to strip
the two boys and photograph them in the nude, questioning them for an
hour. This was a bewildering and frightening experience for the boys.


The first James and Michelle heard of this was when Michelle received a
phone call at 3:30pm from Alicia Habib. Habib presented herself as an
agent for Child Protective Services, demanding that the couple present
themselves for an 'interview'. No criminal complaint was presented. But
the process of intimidation and fear was launched.


Here, Michelle and James find out, to their shock, that the kids have
been stripped and photographed. Left feeling as if the ground had been
cut out from under them they endured with shock the moment when the
deputy sheriff read James his Miranda rights. He was not charged; no
criminal complaint was served. Michelle is interviewed. They are given
orders. Michelle is to be present when James saw their children. CPS
is moving towards building paperwork to take the children away from
their parents.


During the interview they were shown the photos taken of their naked
children by the deputy. The children's faces were frozen in tears. He
did not show them all the photos, keeping them under the paperwork.
Michelle found his behavior intimidating. As the photos were shown he
questioned her about their use of discipline.


Soon Michelle and James will realize that the CPS has no power unless
they give it to them. CPS depends on the ignorance of ordinary people.
The first phase had begun.


The system ground them out fine; dehumanizing them and working with
fine-tuned intention to show them, by its actions, that they had no
rights and no recourse. At the end of the week a hearing was set; they
were now being launched into the second phase of the process that
intended to wrest their children from them. But during those endless
days they began to come out of the shock and consider their
alternatives. They considered the Constitution and the rights they knew
they had both sworn to defend as members of the armed forces of America.


Michelle loaded the two boys in their car and drove them hundreds of
miles to the town where James had grown up. There, she left them with
their great-grandparents. When you are seven months pregnant no long
drive is comfortable, but for her children Michelle would risk anything.

In the car she prayed that she would not miscarry the baby held so close
to her heart.


The two young parents are both veterans of the War in Iraq. Each had
joined the Navy, after looking forward to serving their country from
their early teems. She planned this as her career, since 7th Grade.
He, since taking in ROTC in High School.


But they had joined a military that they believed cared for its own and
kept its promises; after finding that their small son would be have to
be left with someone else while both served in the war zone, they
resigned. Their son, Lukas, was born the following October.


Now, they knew what the military is about. To them, they were just
bodies to fill slots that civilians could fill at twice the pay. Never
previously interested in politics they began to think about how the
world was being run.


From the time you join you are told he is your commander and chief.
She was not a Bush fan, but you cannot say it without fear of reprisal.


But Florida CPS was not finished with them. Although they did not know
it, Habib stood to make nearly $10,000 as her bounty for taking the
children, both very adoptable, from their home.

They never could have imagined that the elderly great-grand-parents
would be threatened with arrest, but that is what happened. They began
studying the Constitution; This, they knew was the real law in America.
If they understood it they could use it.


Now they understand that they should never have talked to CPS. If they
had not, CPS would have had to leave them alone. CPS uses fear and
intimidation to force the appearance that there they have entered into a
'contract' with parents. But since a valid contract cannot exist
without the elements of disclosure, consent, and equitable exchange this
is a fraud. All parents get is bankruptcy, heartbreak, and too often
death.



The Case Plan Ploy – Adam Umholtz

Adam comes from a family that lived in a log cabin in Pennsylvania. The
cabin was 230 years old. Made of chestnut beams that are from a species
that is not extinct the beams were hand hewed and rectangular and criss
crossed. Adam's dad was a pastor for the Southern Home Mission Board.
Adam's younger brother was born there, in the horseshoe shaped valley
that was filled with berry bushes and food they grew themselves.


Adam went to school at the Advanced Training Institute of America, now
the ATI. Now he is an entrepreneur, or was until his life and family
was hijacked by the CPS. Adam's children were taken from him and his
wife on Monday, July 28th, 2007. They were given a case plan that it
was impossible to fulfill.


As part of the 72 goals laid out in the plan was one requirement that
Adam attend a class for sexual offenders who had served time in prison.
This was impossible for Adam to do. Adam is attending a study on
successful parents and couples, a study in which he and his wife were
invited to participate. Both parents are strong Christians who take
their faith seriously. Neither parent has ever been to prison for any
cause, much less a sexual offense. The charges were falsified made by a
neighbor who was later charged with having committed a sexual offense
themselves.


Adam cannot attend the classes available because he has never been to
prison and has never been a sexual offender. He is not eligible for the
class in any case. So the court told Adam to confess to a crime he did
not commit to get his kids back. The court has an agenda. If Adam
confesses they have a clear track for severing his parental rights. The
lack of justice does not bother the court or the attorney who has urged
him to confess to a crime he did not commit. They are all paid through
the process that steals children for resale.


Parents are routinely told that to 'complete their case plan' they must
fulfill requirements that force them to leave jobs that prevent them
from attending classes scheduled from 9 – 5 on work days. They are told
they cannot be self employed. Every possible block is put in their
paths to complete a 'requirement' that is pointless in any case. The
same pattern is reported by parents across the United States. Angelina
Alexander, a parent in California was told she must quit her job as a
taxi driver because she was self employed. Yet she had taken the job,
the only one she could find, to fulfill the requirements to attend
classes. In her case the report that took her small son from her home
was from a former boyfriend who had never seen the child. Complaints
that the charge was false were ignored as her processing continued.


Mainstream Americans are at risk today and have no idea what is coming.
In Adam's case the CPS had targeted the kids because they were
homeschooling and because they had building materials in the back yard.
Then a malicious neighbor, made sexual allegations. The neighbor was
later proven to have lied.


But the fact that all the 'charges' were illegal did not stop them from
forcing you to undertake the 'Case Plan.' There were no charges but
they had already taken their eight children out of the home. If the
family had known they would have refused to talk to CPS.


Adam and his wife are now approaching bankruptcy although they are
better off than many couples because at least they do not have to hide
to keep the child still living with them. Most parents face the same
problem. Attempts to fulfill the case plan make it impossible to earn a
living or are impossible to fulfill. There are no charges. There have
been no charges. There will be no charges. As with most couples, they
force the father to leave so that they will have a clear shot at
grabbing the children from the mother.


CPS has continuously made false allegations, added their youngest child,
born after they took the original eight children, to the present case,
and over and over ignored the orders of the court. One of their
daughters in foster care is suffering from a wound on her foot, acquired
in the foster home, for which she is receiving no treatment. The wound
continues to fester and they can do nothing.


Although there are no charges Adam and his wife are allowed to see the
kids only two hours a week with supervision. And the court continues to
threaten to sever their parental rights. Adam does not intend to let
that happen.


Adam and his wife are considering their options now that they understand
the fraud that has been perpetrated. Those options are growing, along
with their understanding of the Constitution and how the system in place
has worked to negate their rights.


Phase Three – Severing Parental Rights

Greg Pound and his wife, Malissa, had their parental rights severed in
November of 2007. The incident that brought CPS into their lives was a
simple accident. A friend's dog visiting their home bit their baby. It
could have happened to anyone; the dog's owner was desperately sorry,
the dog had never harmed anyone before. Accidents happen. There was
a time when an accident was treated with offers of assistance, not
viewed as the means for grabbing children from their parents and their
home. But that was before those in power noticed the opportunity PL
105-89 (HR 867) offered them.


For four years the Pounds saw their children for just two hours a month.
Looking at the children, across the barriers built by CPS always
reduced them to tears.


The last time the Pounds saw their children was at the YMCA in Pinellas
County. That 'not for profit' is paid 125 million a year, just for that
county, according to Pound who says he has researched the subject
exhaustively, to 'babysit' kids as they meet their parents in a stark
ten by twelve foot room for the two hours they are allowed to be
together for those months when they still hoped to be reunited.


The system is intended to separate children, a valuable commodity, from
their parents. Mandates to reunite children and parents are
consistently ignored as children are processed further and further into
the system. What then happens to the children varies, but is in all
cases appalling.


Along with the system abuse of families parents attempting to work in
the system report that FOIA requests on such routine matters as copies
of the Oath of Office and bonds, required by the Constitution, for each
judge or elected official or law enforcement officer, are not produced,
despite repeated requests. Many ask, over and over again, why such
requests should be met with silence and hostility. Parents continue to
struggle to regain custody of their children and to exact accountability
from those who claim sovereign immunity as government employees from the
impact of their acts on ordinary Americans. The claim of sovereign
immunity for those employed by government is, according to
Constitutional experts such as not employed by government entirely
without foundation.


The three families whose cases appear here each report that they will
never stop fighting. Each family is presently filing a civil rights
suit against those involved in their several cases. In light of
yesterday's revelation on child-sex rings, operating across the United
States but very present in their own areas of Florida, their questions
are ever more anguished as they deal with the echoing emptiness of homes
that once held the laughter of children.
 




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