| CPS first federal audit. All states have failed

On 30 Mar 2004 16:46:58 GMT, (Fern5827) wrote:

....and I respond....with:

Why did you post this to alt.parenting.spanking and nowhere else? Are
you that deep in your cups?

For those who believe the message the Government sends might wish to
consider
the fact that over 3/4 of all states have now been surveyed by a team
commissioned to look at what folks have been saying about DFS all
these years.

Well, you might want to consider the thought that the deck may be
stacked, given that NONE have passed, and that the sample size,
limited to only a few counties within a state is just 50 cases, not
randomly chosen out of the entire pool of cases statewide.


They are all failing.

Yes, and you don't find that suspicious? NO of course not. You are a
stupid asshole that thinks you can get away with this crap without
anyone noticing.

NOT ONE state has passed. The foster care debacle current in
Washington state
is further evidence that the state makes a bad parent.

The WA "foster care debacle" was a case of a criminal, with NO
criminal background. How would YOU have caught him, Eggplant?

No state has ever claimed to be a good parent. Parenting is not the
responsibility of the state, and those who work for it know that and
say so themselves. You are a liar.

WA was a case in point, as I replied to you previously in another
thread.

Out of many thousands of cases only 50 were reviewed, and from only
three counties....two highly urban dense population in an economy that
has "enjoyed" horrendous boom and bust economies for many decades
(Boeing contracts for manufacturing aircraft), and one county that is
so spread out that no CPS office is housed there....and there were
only 40 removals for abuse or neglect in an entire years.

The three counties that have the worst drug and crime records, where
children's protective services do yoemans work? LEFT OUT OF THE
SURVEY.

Now there's a sample.

And that is NOT an "audit." It's a biased survey. The feds are pretty
good at that.

If this is an example of the feds "audit" methods then the intent of
the feds to destroy state control of child welfare and take it over
becomes rather obvious.

Do YOU want the feds deciding what is and isn't "parenting" and
"family?" Wait, of course you do...

YOU WORK FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE THE VENDORS THAT ARE AWARDED THE
CONTRACTS FOR SERVICES THAT WILL GO PUBLIC SECTOR CONTRACTING.

The problem will not abate. It will become WORSE and more difficult to
correct. Records of vendors will be exceedingly hard to access, unlike
state records. The FOIA will be gutted. And your cronies are behind
it.

ABA Journal 03 issue confirms what lawyers, and court personnel think
too. CPS
is abysmal.

The entire concept of CPS is abysmal, Apple. Having to have government
protect children from their own parents is a horror show. No part of
it is good or right. It's all wrong.

But you and Doug and your employers and cronies are all in it for the
money and power, not for children or families.

Just reading a few months of your insane gabbling makes THAT
abundantly clear.

Doug wants to lock up families that have abused their children instead
of rehabilitating them. YOU want families to be able, for their
Liberty Interests, to beat their children with objects.

And poison them because we used to do that in the 1800's.

And you celebrate the ravingings of an authoritarian dangerous cop who
consistently lied about youth crime, that advocates hitting children
in the head for "discipline"

Fortunately we can see what nutcases you people are and in time there
will be considerable backlash.

The pendulum swings.

Both ways.

Kane

The *gentleman* doth protest too much.

:-)

Guess he can't recall his previous missives.

Talking about imbibing are you?

Kane wrote
Well, you might want to consider the thought that the deck may be
stacked, given that NONE have passed, and that the sample size,
limited to only a few counties within a state is just 50 cases, not
randomly chosen out of the entire pool of cases statewide.

Clutching for straws, eh Kane?

On 30 Mar 2004 15:37:16 -0800, (Greg Hanson)
wrote:

Kane wrote
Well, you might want to consider the thought that the deck may be
stacked, given that NONE have passed, and that the sample size,
limited to only a few counties within a state is just 50 cases, not
randomly chosen out of the entire pool of cases statewide.

Clutching for straws, eh Kane?

Oh, then you don't find it suspicious that not a single state has
past, and you think that "audits" should consist of selecting parts of
the whole and pretending they are representative is just Peachy?

You ninnies haven't even bothered to find out that the rules, the laws
passed, that supposedly are being used to drive this "audit" don't
even mention some of the issues being graded.

No wonder you have no job. Who would hire a dunce such as you?

Get a job and try reporting to your boss that you have looked at one
tenth of one percent (or less) of your assigned job and see how long
you'll last.

The feds are on a campaign to take over both education and child
welfare.

Neither will look like anything you are familiar with, and they'll be
run by business interests that have been after control for years. They
got their cronies elected. Now watch the country go down the tubes.

Let me bring you up to date...and it ain't pretty, but you are enough
of a scumbag to be elible for the new jobs being created....the very
few there will be. Want to work for an education and public services
vendor, Whore? They are pimps.

http://www.pbs.org/now/thisweek/

Read that, and know that similar things are in the works for child
protection. The states are meant to be broken, and it ISN'T to improve
CPS. It's to make a political party powerful and to make money.

Sadly right wing fundy xian homeschoolers are involved, and we real
homeschoolers are being tarred with the same brush. We are NOT happy.

If you have a speck of honorable conscience in a few years you'll be
back apologizing to me.

I know the crowd.

I've fought them for years. And there are shills among your buddies
that do service to them, paid or volunteer...and it's NOT about the
children, or families, dummy. I read this ng for over a year before I
responded...and I responded because I did an intelligence analysis of
the participants, and outside of you vomit gobbling ignorant servants
to them, this ng has their agents in it.

It's about politics and busines. As USUAL.

Not about ethics and child safety or even families. And they'll
castrate YOU when they get in power, gigolo. Keep dancing, stupid

Kane