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Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate In New Jersey



 
 
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Old November 20th 06, 08:14 AM posted to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.atheism,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality,misc.kids
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Default Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate In New Jersey

On 19 Nov 2006 13:46:33 -0800, "Sound of Trumpet"
wrote:


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229738,00.html


Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate After N.J. Gay Rights Ruling


Wednesday, November 15, 2006


MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. - Two women will be listed as parents on the
birth certificate of a baby born this week in New Jersey, one of the
first implications of a state Supreme Court ruling that gives same-sex
couples access to the same rights as married couples.

The state and the women agreed in a closed family court proceeding
Monday, the day before the child was born, that both women should be
listed in light of the landmark high court ruling. A judge agreed with
the state and the women, lawyers said.

In New Jersey, birth certificates are typically mailed to parents.

Assistant Attorney General Patrick DeAlmeida said the women are the
first he knows of to take advantage of new rights granted by the Oct.
25 ruling.

The Burlington County women, who are registered as domestic partners,
did not want their names made public, their attorney Stephen Hyland
said.

Under state law, the husband of a woman who gives birth through
artificial insemination is listed on the birth certificate as the
father. No such provision is made for lesbian couples, who often go
through lengthy and costly adoptions to give both women equal rights as
parents.

Parental rights are especially important to children because they
establish inheritance rights and custody should a parent die. Listing
both parents on a birth certificate also allows the child to be covered
by the health insurance of either parent.

The state Supreme Court ruling said the state must extend all the
rights of marriage to gay couples and gave lawmakers six months to work
out the details - including whether the unions should be called
"marriages."



The kid will hate them when he/she is old enough to understand what
they have done to him/her.
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Old November 20th 06, 08:17 AM posted to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.atheism,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality,misc.kids
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Default Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate In New Jersey

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:04:19 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
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On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:46:33 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate After N.J. Gay Rights Ruling


In short, you bigots are losing...


Really? When you stack that up along side DOMA and 32 states that have
Constitutions that say in effect that "marriage can only be between a
male and a female", I'd say you homos are sucking hind tit, Dildo.
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Old November 20th 06, 08:19 AM posted to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.atheism,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality,misc.kids
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229738,00.html


Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate After N.J. Gay Rights Ruling


Awesome! Now if the other states could only get their **** together...
-L.

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Old November 20th 06, 08:28 AM posted to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.atheism,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality,misc.kids
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:18:17 GMT, Valerie
wrote:



Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229738,00.html

Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate After N.J. Gay Rights Ruling

Wednesday, November 15, 2006

MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. - Two women will be listed as parents on the
birth certificate of a baby born this week in New Jersey, one of the
first implications of a state Supreme Court ruling that gives same-sex
couples access to the same rights as married couples.


Isn't it wonderful? It is way over due.


Wonderful? You have got to be joking. It demonstrates the disregard
and selfishness that homosexuals show toward their children. They give
no thought to what the consequences of their act may be on the child's
future. All the civil rights laws ever passed have not removed the
bias against blacks in America. There has been, there is and there
always will be bias against homosexuals too. Regardless of how many
laws are passed, the child, though it be innocent, will suffer from
that bias. You can bet on that...
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Old November 20th 06, 12:04 PM posted to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.atheism,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality,misc.kids
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expressed precisely :
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:18:17 GMT, Valerie
wrote:




Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229738,00.html

Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate After N.J. Gay Rights Ruling

Wednesday, November 15, 2006

MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. - Two women will be listed as parents on the
birth certificate of a baby born this week in New Jersey, one of the
first implications of a state Supreme Court ruling that gives same-sex
couples access to the same rights as married couples.


Isn't it wonderful? It is way over due.


Wonderful? You have got to be joking. It demonstrates the disregard
and selfishness that homosexuals show toward their children. They give
no thought to what the consequences of their act may be on the child's
future. All the civil rights laws ever passed have not removed the
bias against blacks in America. There has been, there is and there
always will be bias against homosexuals too. Regardless of how many
laws are passed, the child, though it be innocent, will suffer from
that bias. You can bet on that...


If you - or any of your ilk - meet that child, there is no bet needed.
It is a "done deal". Your bias would indeed make that child suffer.

--
Pangur Ban - nonchristian theist


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Old November 20th 06, 12:07 PM posted to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.atheism,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality,misc.kids
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Default Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate In New Jersey

After serious thinking ass wrote :
Tow assholes


Tow them where? Or are you using one of the other definitions of tow -
kindling? You would have to provide your own match - and plenty here
would be urinating on it - and you.




johac wrote: said.

In New Jersey, birth certificates are typically mailed to parents.

Assistant Attorney General Patrick DeAlmeida said the women are the
first he knows of to take advantage of new rights granted by the Oct.
25 ruling.

The Burlington County women, who are registered as domestic partners,
did not want their names made public, their attorney Stephen Hyland
said.

Under state law, the husband of a woman who gives birth through
artificial insemination is listed on the birth certificate as the
father. No such provision is made for lesbian couples, who often go
through lengthy and costly adoptions to give both women equal rights as
parents.

Parental rights are especially important to children because they
establish inheritance rights and custody should a parent die. Listing
both parents on a birth certificate also allows the child to be covered
by the health insurance of either parent.

The state Supreme Court ruling said the state must extend all the
rights of marriage to gay couples and gave lawmakers six months to work
out the details - including whether the unions should be called
"marriages."


Good for New Jersey! Congrats to the Moms!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire

Contact - Throw a .net over the .com


--
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Old November 20th 06, 12:46 PM posted to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.atheism,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality,misc.kids
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"johac" wrote in message
...
Good for New Jersey! Congrats to the Moms!


Can't wait for a woman or man to ask for legal permission to marry a 15 year
old of the same sex.


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Old November 20th 06, 12:56 PM posted to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.atheism,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality,misc.kids
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wrote in message
...
On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 00:18:17 GMT, Valerie
wrote:



Sound of Trumpet wrote:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229738,00.html

Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate After N.J. Gay Rights Ruling

Wednesday, November 15, 2006

MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. - Two women will be listed as parents on the
birth certificate of a baby born this week in New Jersey, one of the
first implications of a state Supreme Court ruling that gives same-sex
couples access to the same rights as married couples.


Isn't it wonderful? It is way over due.


Wonderful? You have got to be joking. It demonstrates the disregard
and selfishness that homosexuals show toward their children. They give
no thought to what the consequences of their act may be on the child's
future. All the civil rights laws ever passed have not removed the
bias against blacks in America. There has been, there is and there
always will be bias against homosexuals too. Regardless of how many
laws are passed, the child, though it be innocent, will suffer from
that bias. You can bet on that...


You know what? I can't recall a single time when anyone scrutinized my birth
certificate to see what names were on it. I've needed it to get official IDs
made, but even then, it was more a "ok, there it is" type of thing. What's
more, in this day and age when so many names which used to be male are given
to females, gender's hardly obvious by name. So no, even if you believe that
having homosexual parents is something that will haunt the child, I don't
see a major problem long-term due to the birth certificate.

And, given the number of kids I've seen suffer due to only having one parent
(many of whom don't even know who their fathers are), I have a hard time
criticizing two loving, caring women who choose to raise a child. Better
that the child have two mommies than to have only one.



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Old November 20th 06, 02:26 PM posted to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.atheism,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality,misc.kids
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Default Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate In New Jersey

On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:17:30 +0000, bibon wrote:

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:04:19 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:46:33 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:

Two Moms to Be on Baby's Birth Certificate After N.J. Gay Rights
Ruling


In short, you bigots are losing...


Really? When you stack that up along side DOMA and 32 states that have
Constitutions that say in effect that "marriage can only be between a
male and a female", I'd say you homos are sucking hind tit, Dildo.


Interesting how you assume anybody who defends civil rights must have a
direct, personal stake. Says a great deal about your moral fiber.

Hate to tell you this but when you see a majority indulging in an orgy of
legislation, it means they can see their own end and are desperately
trying to shore up their control.

Fact is, the base of the anti-gay sentiment is in the pre-boomers. A
demographic that cannot help but shrink over time because, well, humans
get old and die.

It's a generational shift. You know that when the first law against
interracial marriage was struck down, the public was as much as 90%
opposed to allowing interracial marriage? People reacted the same way,
acting as if the very republic were at stake.

Now, nobody cares.

Attitudes change. Life goes on.

--
Mark K. Bilbo
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because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
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