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Old July 29th 07, 04:05 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.divorce,misc.kids
Greegor
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Default Kane ratting out on his OWN bargain he offered AF? Attorney name

I can't speak for Firemonkey. As for myself, my only "threat" has
taken the form of, action should you or your cronies, present or past,
cause or appear to be trying to cause harm to me, mine, or Don's.


You mixed past tense and future tense. Getting lost?

One time he posted a general warning letter
which did not name any person,


Why would one in a general statement.


A proper cease and desist order would not
be based on INNUENDO, but specific actions,
and would specifically name the party intended for.


Of course. What cease and desist order did I mention?


That's what your ""lawyer approved"" threatgram was.

I have said, "if," Greg, repeatedly.


Have a stutter?

I am no long willing to tolerate your studied
and deliberate ignorance, that you think frees you to
make the same false claims over and over again.


Kane wrote
"no long willing to tolerate"

LOL Ptbptbptbthth

This was resolved long ago in exchanges with us, and you simply ignore
that and lie again, about what I said and how I said it.

Feel free to post my actual Usenet post that would support your claim.



What you posted was more like some ROYAL DECREE,
a public display of your Megalomania.


That I would not tolerate you or anyone involved going without action
should one of YOU take action against me and mine?

how is that megalomania, Greg?


Kane wrote
I am no long willing to tolerate your studied
and deliberate ignorance, that you think frees you to
make the same false claims over and over again.


Whiny and megalomaniac comments!

G not even an alias it was addressed to,
K No reason to post that here.


Not if you don't intend it to be a legal notice.


It was a notice, not a legal action. All that is required in it is for
me to describe...and I really don't have to do that, the conditions
under which I would take action "if."

I did that. But I certainly didn't include all my options.


Did it fulfill some innermost need for you?


G and he said that his
G attorney had read and approved the letter.
K Yes, he did.
G He conveniently never mentioned the supposed lawyers name.
K Why would I?


To lend it some authenticity, at the very least.


I don't NEED his name or anyone's to
make a simple statement of my intent.


In other words it was just more GASBAGGING.

Without his name, signature and Bar Association
number your claims are obvious fraud.


What claims?


Your ""lawyer approved"" letter was just more GASBAGGING.

And would that make my statement of intent to take action "IF" a
'fraud.' I wrote it. I said it. I meant it.


You dealt it, you ""smelt"" it.

Even if I never activate for cause, "if" factor, it's not a fraud.
Unless you can read my mind and I'm telling you I never intended to
act on it "if" you little twerps did anything.


Bla Bla bla... Keep flapping your gums...

So, while your in there, look for my memory of that airline stewardess
I dated in the 60s. Can't seem to recall her face any more. 0:]


Thank you Commander McBrag!

G His sock or idiotic protege' Firemonkey has ALSO made
G false accusations and threats of action against me by her
G ex the cop AND threats of legal action.
K So, defy her and continue.


I fart in your general direction.


As usual, just like when you ****, the wind is in your direction.
That's what you get for being too 'general.'

In other words, you are determinedly stupid, as are others, and refuse
to take this seriously the possible consequences of your own actions.


You are a wheazing old senile bag of flatulence.

Either through arrested development or "second childhood"
you seem to have thought processes very much like
a petulent kid with ADHD, angry and on a
crusade against spanking and parents.

You want to be taken SERIOUSLY? LOL

Stop making impotent threats and sue me.
Prove you are something more than a flatulent old gas bag.

G Firemonkey claimed she paid for ""information"" on me.
K Did she?
She so claimed.
For information that's in the online phone book!


One can put false information in an online phone book. One can request
the site remove, or change information.


Do you wear Depends or some other brand of incontinence products?

G Just like Kane's many threats of legal action,


K I did not make many threats, and I followed through.


Not the threats you made to me. Pure gas bagging.


I didn't make any threats to you, other than contingent on, "if"
certain things happened.


Gas bagging. Pure flatulence.

K One reader knows that, to his sorrow.


Proof?


You? Ask ME for proof?

It was already posted in this newsgroup.

And the cause as well.


It should be EASY to search out and link to then!
Was it a legal action?
Can I look it up through online court records?

You have tooted this horn over and over again
but always just a bit off pitch.

Who? What? When? Where? Why? How?

If you can't figure it out, then that's your loss. And explains why
you are so stupid as to threaten me with false claims.


What claim did you ever prove?

G none of the threats came true even though I am
G openly listed in the phone book.


Did I name you specifically?

Yes.


Contingent on what?


Flatulence.

Sappy "candy bar" logic lesson snipped

And are we out of time?

Yes.


G There IS such a thing as abusing threats of law suit.
K Is there? You have a statute that clarifies your claim?
Not necessary.


Then you made an empty claim, based on your opinion. I also then have
abused, by my statement above, abusing threats to send a chocolate
bar.


That is your opinion based on your interpretation of my opinion.
How much wood would a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck
wood?

And the two are just about equally funny to view when your comment of
'abuse' is added.


You are easily amused.

G Attempting to intimidate, drive off or squelch an
G opponent is certainly an abuse.


K That depends on methods used and the
K truth of YOUR claim that I did.


K I still have copies of me begging you to stay.
K Have you forgotten them.


Meaningless


On the contrary. They were seriously meant, and seriously written, and
read seriously to anyone that can comprehend the english language
sufficiently. I do not want you to ever leave this forum.


You are my "Nazi in a bell jar".

That doesn't mean that I'll give up my rights to free speech and
withhold my opinions of you to keep you here.


Yes, without an opinionated nature you would cease being.
You wear your issues on your shirt sleave and your
concept of self importance is based on that, isn't it?

Won't they let you take a computer to the Nursing Home? LOL

What methods have I used to attempt to drive you off, or intimidate
you? Please be clear in your explanation


You are a gracious social butterfly! LOL

G Kane and his crowd have a propensity for such
G threats of legal action.
K Crowd?
cohorts


The use of that word strongly suggests a group that each member has
some responsibility for the actions or every other. That they act in
concert, and they decide together what acts to take, and the rationale
for them.


Or it could be as simple as you all kiss each others butt constantly.

We've even disagreed publicly, if you include Dan and Betty. I believe
I may have differed with others as well, that have not taken a liking
to you.


Aw! You're breaking my heart, really! You mean person you!

You accused me, after I admonished one of them, of them being a sock
attacking you and me covering that it was I that took what I felt to
be unethical actions.

Does that look like a "cohort" response?


Yes, to a "Double Naught Spy" like you! Secret Agent Man....

Your financial dealings that became legal issues were outside the
purvey of this forum, and your personally stated reasons for being
here. I did not protest the marital and domestic abuse issue simply
because it WAS part of the subject matter you introduced.


Thank you Lord Kane! LOL

You never discussed your finances other than your job issues. Hence I
was not tolerant of that being a point of discussion.


You were not tolerant? What a power tripping fartbag!

In fact, as I look back and your admitted work record, it occurs to me
now I might have been wrong to admonish the poster. You DID say you
were on a sabbatical, and we can be fairly sure it was for at least
three years.

In any case, I defended you, and you are so caught up in yourself and
your little games you could not accept that. Show that I posted as
someone else that made that disclosure.


Flapping your lips when you type again?

Kane wrote
I have a question for you. If you think I'm Don Fisher, and you have
all this action going about him, with various threats of your own, and
claims of illegal ...


Claims of illegal what?


... acts.

Thank you for catching my oversight.


What claims of illegal acts by Donald?

completely reduntant text snipped

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...url.com/2dp9j2

Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services,
alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, alt.parenting.spanking,
alt.support.foster-parents, alt.support.divorce
From: Greegor
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:06:05 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 16 2007 3:06 am
Subject: Fairfax CPS Socialworker fabricates Sexual Abuse
Allegations.

K You seem awful touchy lately.

Who's swearing?

Say, tell me, do you think Donald L. Fisher, who you have identified
as living in Bend Oregon and an employee of CPS, actually pandered to
perverts and spammed children in state custody to them, Greg?


Yes. ...


Kane wrote
... remember you AGREED with Dennis sock,


Greg wrote
Dennis hasn't been here for over a year you retard.
You've immortalized him with your finger pointing!


Kane wrote
No, he is immortalizing with his sock posting. His style is
unmistakable. And well, a tiny little slip he made.


You think of yourself as a charming social butterfly.

of his intent to provide child molesters with Oregon children waiting for
adoption...don't you think you might want to reexamine your claims of
who is harassing who and who is attempting to drive who away?


And again you support your claim that "yes" you believe that Donald
Fisher deliberately with intent to supply child molesters posted
children's information on the web?


Are you just a bit OBSESSED?

Not after you actually bragged about how you posted gratuitous
obscenity for over a full year.
Pattern of behavior.


My pattern of behavior warrants claiming Don Fisher is a panderer to
child molesters?


You are Donald L. Fisher.

Can you explain how obscenity, which is rather common hereabouts (read
a few of Doan's posts, searching for them on "****.") equates with
very serious claims, that you have now verified YOU agree with, that
someone is a wholesale panderer of children?


I answered your question but again, you don't like the answer you got?
Are you going to try to change the question after it was answered?
Read into it some new meaning to deride me?
Wasn't "Yes" the answer you wanted?
You asked my opinion but you're unhappy you got it?

Intrusion


One doesn't INTRUDE into a public forum, Greg. No one asked me to
leave. In fact, I made no comment for them to take offense at. You are
lying again. How wearisome of you.


You are a tumor. Even a benign tumor is still a tumor. But you ARE
malignant.

into Family Rights groups when up front you
stated hostility toward them. Stalking.


So I'm stalking if I go to the NAMBLA site, say, and I take strong
offense to the, Greg, and am a bad boy for disagreeing with them?


NAMBLA is a criminal group, flat out.
Family Rights groups are not.

What did the ATF tell you after the firearms sting you instigated?
They told you to stop playing "Junior G-Man" didn't they?

R R R R R R


Was that in the Mork and Mindy sense, the Pirate sense, or was it a
tic?

The only FR group forum, ONE, I've been to, Greg, was public at the
time. Are you trying to sell the idea that those that disagree with
SOME of what takes place there is stalking? And is not welcome?


Why are you asking about a situation that doesn't fit YOURS?

Why would a Rights group NOT want critical exchanges between people in
a forum? To learn and grow their information base?


Or manipulation from the other side?

Democrats posing as Republicans at the caucus?

What possible use can it be if it contains nothing but agreement?

And I presume agreement with YOUR contributions like,


there is a good side to TPR,

Did you lose the context of that statement, or even the exact wording?

- and one should early on force the state to take your case to trial,


Again, where is the full context and exact wording of that?
Was that a reference to the ADJUDICATION hearing?

- and you should, if you disagree with the laws on secret recording
show up in someone else's court case, and with the taped evidence in
hand declare you have broken the law...and you said this to someone
that had only a few weeks before just gotten her children back out of
CPS custody?


You distorted that one almost beyond recognition.

THIS is what you want to be safe for you to peddle without challenge,
Greg?


Are you the thought police?

You want newcomers to see ONLY those kinds of things, some of which
have proven repeatedly to be case breakers for people who then lost
their children as a result of such advice being followed?


Dan claimed his method is THE ONLY ONE! LOL

That's what cult leaders push!

AND caseworkers who want ""client"" families to just submit.

I don't think you are a vulture. I believe you are more like a
vampire.


You nasty man you!

You will run, and fail to defend what I just wrote about you, and
claim it's out of context, but you will NOT provide context, isn't
that right, Greg?

For provocation you cannot be beaten. I could swear at a newcomer here
(which would be an extremely rare thing) in their first few postings
and it would NEVER result in them risking their children and fortunes
like YOUR kind of advice can and has, Greg.


You're a bag of farts.

G As for naming Donald L. Fisher's wife Ann, please
G notice that the hyena pack has had no hesitation
G to post my SO Lisa's full name.


Have you seen Ann Fisher mentioned by Don Fisher, or I, in this
newsgroup as a party to anything?


I'll remember that you failed to respond, Greg.


You do that! Ptptpt!

Who put her and address up on this forum, Greg?


My SO.

Your playing with Bend, is bull****. A diversion that someone warned
you needed because of the seriousness of what you REALLY DID.


Who warned of what?
What did I ""REALLY DO"" ??

I think you need a memory jog, and someone to consult with on your
provocative post:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...tive-services/...

Note that your referenced proof (odd you could find it for this, but
never for your lies, eh?) was a website with no connection to CPS.


So?

And YOU went out of our way to find it..with a little help from your
friends.


Google is my friend.

And the trouble you went to.


Google!

You might also consider who gave you the link to, or information to
find that...and whether or not you'll carry water for him, should the
occasion arise.


Google?

He might want to think about that a bit, as well.


Google?

Here's a post of your, where you again try to link me with child
molesters, and when I challenge what ever nonsense you were babbling,
the thread abruptly ends. This is a habit of yours.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...tive-services/...
There are a number of such things from you.



No, Greg, YOU are the first person, as I recall, and I'll check my
records on this for you is you wish, to mention Don Fisher's wife Ann
here by name.
Is that not correct, little man?


After you and Dan posted my SO's name, obtained from Congressional
record.


ON THE SUBJECT OF CPS? Well, go figger, little man. Now show us the
connection to Ms Fisher, and a CPS case. And don't try that crap of
Don being a caseworker. Won't fly because you yourself dropped that
referrence about him. You are puka liar, little man.

Ms Fisher has never commented on CPS here or anywhere else on the web,
Greg. You fished up, with help, information to attempt to ID me then
prefaced it to in Don's wife.


Mostly I just point out you ARE Donald L. Fisher of Oregon.

Did SHE sign off on his statement at that website, Greg...or were you
just overcome with enthusiasm?

As for Lisa's name, someone with a case YOU have brought up here as
your reason to be here -- "after you and Dan?" Please cite your proof
with posts that include dates.


English is NOT your second language so why do
you keep posting such botched up English?

And you did NOT refer to your testimony against Iowa DHS after the
post I link to above? Your mention of Ms. Fisher?


What's the verb?

Please point us to the Congressional record, or HW&MC committee record
you refer to. I see NO mention of HER LOCATION BY ADDRESS. No mention
of her business (which might just be a strong argument in YOUR
disclosure...should it come up....of an attempt to influence
commerce...which of course is across state lines....get the hint,
dimwit?).


"an attempt to influence commerce..
...which of course is across state lines" ?

Who and what is this about?
What is the question?

Let us consider, before we read the author Greg, his contentions about
US using Lisa's name, and in full or part does not matter.

It is not all that difficult to eventually run across her full name
when looking for proof of some fool claim Greg makes.

He himself, and others, of his cohort, have used her name contiuously
to discuss "his" case, since 2001. 80 PAGES of citations with her
name.


What, I slipped up once with her first name only so you go ape with
it?

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...tive-services/...
for the thread:http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...tive-services/...
for the post:

... The visit supervisor is even ADDING on a service that
she already said in writing that Lisa DOES NOT NEED. ...

Doubtless this isn't the first mention of her, but it's the furtherest
back google would deliver so that I could provide a link for proof.
0:] Dontchajusthatethat, don't it chaff your ass, make yah wanna
bitch, pitch a fit?


Nah.

Your continual use of her name linked with you and a CPS case is the
key, me boy. If you didn't want her name here, YOU should never have
brought it up.


First Middle Last Birth Date?

Now show us where I, or Don Fisher brought up his wife's name here,
harrasser, STALKER.


Well, Mr. "I'm not Don Fisher", didn't you once
pitch an ad for Nettlepatch Press? OOps!

By the way, I checked. He lies YET AGAIN, even about her
business...more SERIOUS breach of law, because it can be taken as
making her authorship less than what it is, mainstream work on
homeschooling. According to records I've found, Ms Fisher is one of
the very large body of people that own their own publishing companies.

Thus here it's being labelled as a "Vanity Press" which means you must
pay THEM to print your work with no particular intent of selling on a
commercial scale. Ms. Fisher is read world wide...about 22 countries
at last count, offers to translate her works pending where english is
less commonly taught, inquiries from those that have never heard of
her except through her lectures, and her column in one of the top
homeschooling periodicals. Or by others mention that have read her
work.

This is a public figure Greg has maligned, and possibly, defamed.


Yawn


She tells me she has never paid anyone to publish her works for her.
Want to rethink this little pile of Dobie statuette you droped?
So without further adieu, but great peeeeuuuuwww, I give you:
Nov 30th, 2004, Greg:

...For those of you who don't already know it,
our beloved Kane's real name is Don Fisher
and he is 70 years old.
He lives close to Portland Oregon, but has
another address in Carson, WA associated with
Nettlepatch Press, a Vanity Press selling his
wife's books on home schooling.

In the newsgroup he has denied working for
Child Protection, but Commander McBrag has also
bragged about his exploits working within
Child protective Services. He also described his
reason that he himself was a Foster kid, as
having been because of war and actually made
his bio parents sound wonderful, but the
captured text below appears to contradict that. ...

Greg, are you aware that people can have MORE than one set of parents,
stupid?


Who DIED?

How many people do you know that say to their step-mom, "Hey,
step-mom, can I have another waffle?"

Or "Adopted mom, where are my brown socks?"

And you have seen Doan deliberately play with her initials


Without the hyphenated last name...

and now ask
outright about someone completely disconnected with these
newsgroups...bought by YOU to attempt to intimidate ME because you
think I'm Don Fisher.


Is it Doan?


Why didn't you answer? AFraid to? AFhole?

I bought somebody?


Brought.


I BROUGHT somebody here? How?

Go ahead. Say it isn't Doan. "I dare you, I double dare you."


How would I know?

Now have a little chat with Doan and discuss his implied threat of
taking legal action against me for speaking out about HIS position and
his knowledge and it's possible implications.


I'll get right on the BAT-PHONE! LOL

Hey Doan, CALL ME UP on the RED PHONE!

He's full of [s], and so are you.


You're COMMANDER MCBRAG!

YOUR were the first harassers to bring up someone's name NOT connect
to this newsgroup and our discussions in any way.


First? Nope.


Yep.

Now YOU justify YOU bringing up someone ELSE that not only is not
connected to this newsgroup, but had NEVER been mentioned here before
you did. And has NO involvement was so ever in CPS or CPS discussions.


Define the issue your way, but I saw it merely as a symmetrical
response.
Your pitching for Nettlepatch Press made it fair as well.

Lisa WAS a client and YOU came here babbling about her as your SO. She
WAS INVOLVED BY YOU.

I never mentioned Ms Fisher here, Nor did Don Fisher. Nor did She ever
post here, Dan didn't, Sherman didn't. NO one but YOU Greg.


Nettlepatch, jerkwad.

YOu are the harrasser of note, here, Greg.


OH, You POOR FELLOW! ROFL

And have been from the
beginning. I have dozens of your posts accusing others of all kinds of
ugly things, little man, to defend yourself against the ACTUAL ugly
things YOU DID and gave us proof of yourself.


Archive them next to your jars of bodily fluids, Doctor Strangelove.

YOUR accusations of others were always, back then, before you learned
the creative use of the question mark, stated as assertions of fact,
and NEVER did you provide proof when asked.


What's the VERB?

Others here, myself included are ALWAYS happy to repost your little
bull**** self aggrandizement crappola to SHOW HOW YOU IMPLICATED
YOURSELF.


Nah. You guys twist everything just like CPS caseworkers.
If you feel a lie is "Moral or Ethical" you use it.

A BLATANT ATTEMPT TO INTIMIDATE.


Is that not true?


You may also go [f] yourself, and invite Doan to your circle jerk.


Is this language your attorney would condone?


He doesn't concern himself with that. Yours shouldn't with you either.
You've had your moments, Greg.

I note you are unable to refute my claim about "blatant attempt to
intimidate."


Why didn't you bring this up right WITH that?
Is it disconnected from context for a reason?

Show me were you have asked me to stay in this group. Show me where
have haven't called me an intruder for visting a family rights group,
plainly trying to keep me away.


Are you going to the opposite political caucus as well, Kane?
If they kick you out because they figure out you're a saboteur, you
gonna whine?

Then I'll show you a couple of post of mine 0:] where I have elaborate
on why I want you here.


You are my Nazi in a Bell Jar.

My respect for the first amendment, being one, you little
constitutionalist you, and so that you can continue to expose you and
those like you by your strange babbling that seem so likely to get
people canned and losing their children.


Does this hamper your ""legal position"" just a bit? LOL


Enhancement.

And considerably. I don't want you to stop...keep going.

He's forgotten his own posting history.
And the things that tie him to harassment of innocent people.
Have a jolly time sorting out who is actually at risk of legal action
that will stick, Greg.


Your pattern of such bogus legal threats


It was not a legal threat. It was a very plain statement of intent
about taking legal actions "IF."


You are a bag of farts.

would
certainly be an issue if any actual action ever started.


No doubt. And would be an argument in your favor, or mine?

I never asked you to leave. I've only said that you run a risk of you
encourage putting others at risk and that risk is enacted by someone.


More English trouble?

Seriously, Kane, if you're dying of early onset alzheimers
don't you think you should bow out before the dementia
becomes palpable?

AF provided their lawyer's name.


AF is "their?" Plural? Dear me, now that could complicate thing for
you.

Who is AF, Greg?


Why do you think I know?
You're the one so certain you threatened instigating a job action.
You wouldn't do that if you weren't absulutely sure would you?

AF posted that request shortly after I discussed Doan, asking if that
is who it was posting, and if he might chose to misuse his knowledge.

He seems to have forgotten the question mark, and his own liberal use
of it. And yours. If he wishes to removed mine, then I have more than
enough opportunity to remove his in the same manner...which would be
quite interesting, if I did, don't you think?


Remove his what?

You said you would provide yours if they did.


I did.

Who is your lawyer Donald?


Are you going to answer THE QUESTION Kane?
You recieved your quid pro quo.
It was your deal. Gonna rat out on your own bargain?


Who is AF, and AnneF- Greg?

Who is your attorney, Greg?

Yourself?
Give me a laugh.


Sue me Kane and find out!

Think of what a great OPPORTUNITY it would be for you
to walk all over a poor defenseless PRO SE person in court! LOL



  #32  
Old July 29th 07, 05:34 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.divorce,misc.kids
Dan Sullivan
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Posts: 1,687
Default Kane ratting out on his OWN bargain he offered AF? Attorney name

On Jul 28, 11:05 pm, Greegor wrote:
I can't speak for Firemonkey. As for myself, my only "threat" has
taken the form of, action should you or your cronies, present or past,
cause or appear to be trying to cause harm to me, mine, or Don's.


You mixed past tense and future tense. Getting lost?


Can't seem to follow, Greg?

Sober up!

One time he posted a general warning letter
which did not name any person,


Why would one in a general statement.


A proper cease and desist order would not
be based on INNUENDO, but specific actions,
and would specifically name the party intended for.


Of course. What cease and desist order did I mention?


That's what your ""lawyer approved"" threatgram was.


Greg, you think a threatgram is a proper cease and desist order?

It's no wonder the mere mention of your name causes fits of hysterical
laughter in the Iowa court system!

  #33  
Old July 29th 07, 06:31 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.divorce,misc.kids
Greegor
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Posts: 4,243
Default Kane ratting out on his OWN bargain he offered AF? Attorney name

On Jul 28, 11:34 pm, Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Jul 28, 11:05 pm, Greegor wrote:

I can't speak for Firemonkey. As for myself, my only "threat" has
taken the form of, action should you or your cronies, present or past,
cause or appear to be trying to cause harm to me, mine, or Don's.


You mixed past tense and future tense. Getting lost?


Can't seem to follow, Greg?

Sober up!


I don't drink liquor.
Bluff and bluster to distract from Jabberwocky English?

Dan Sullivan wrote
Greg, you think a threatgram is a proper cease and desist order?


Dan, you proved MY POINT!
The threatgram was more bluff and bluster. Hot air.
Thanks.

It's no wonder the mere mention of
your name causes fits of hysterical
laughter in the Iowa court system!


You monitor such information from Long Island Dan?

  #34  
Old July 29th 07, 07:07 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.divorce,misc.kids
Dan Sullivan
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Default Kane ratting out on his OWN bargain he offered AF? Attorney name

On Jul 29, 1:31 am, Greegor wrote:
On Jul 28, 11:34 pm, Dan Sullivan wrote:

On Jul 28, 11:05 pm, Greegor wrote:


I can't speak for Firemonkey. As for myself, my only "threat" has
taken the form of, action should you or your cronies, present or past,
cause or appear to be trying to cause harm to me, mine, or Don's.


You mixed past tense and future tense. Getting lost?


Can't seem to follow, Greg?


Sober up!


I don't drink liquor.


What do you consume that makes you so stupid, Greg?

Or is it a natural thing?

Bluff and bluster to distract from Jabberwocky English?

Dan Sullivan wrote

Greg, you think a threatgram is a proper cease and desist order?


Dan, you proved MY POINT!


Stupid is as Greg sees it!

The threatgram was more bluff and bluster. Hot air.
Thanks.


For pointing out that a threatgram isn't a cease and desist order?

It's no wonder the mere mention of
your name causes fits of hysterical
laughter in the Iowa court system!


You monitor such information from Long Island Dan?


Just common sense, Greg.


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Old July 29th 07, 07:52 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.divorce,misc.kids
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Default Kane ratting out on his OWN bargain he offered AF? Attorney name

On Jul 29, 1:07 am, Dan Sullivan wrote:
On Jul 29, 1:31 am, Greegor wrote:

On Jul 28, 11:34 pm, Dan Sullivan wrote:


On Jul 28, 11:05 pm, Greegor wrote:


I can't speak for Firemonkey. As for myself, my only "threat" has
taken the form of, action should you or your cronies, present or past,
cause or appear to be trying to cause harm to me, mine, or Don's.


You mixed past tense and future tense. Getting lost?


Can't seem to follow, Greg?


Sober up!


I don't drink liquor.


What do you consume that makes you so stupid, Greg?

Or is it a natural thing?

Bluff and bluster to distract from Jabberwocky English?


Dan Sullivan wrote


Greg, you think a threatgram is a proper cease and desist order?


Dan, you proved MY POINT!


Stupid is as Greg sees it!

The threatgram was more bluff and bluster. Hot air.
Thanks.


For pointing out that a threatgram isn't a cease and desist order?


Yep.

It's no wonder the mere mention of
your name causes fits of hysterical
laughter in the Iowa court system!


You monitor such information from Long Island Dan?


Just common sense, Greg.


Fairy tale

Kane wrote
I can't speak for Firemonkey. As for myself, my only "threat" has
taken the form of, action should you or your cronies, present or past,
cause or appear to be trying to cause harm to me, mine, or Don's.


Dan, Could you diagram this, or translate it from gasbag into English?

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Old July 29th 07, 01:12 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.divorce,misc.kids
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"Dan Sullivan" wrote in message
oups.com...

I can't speak for Firemonkey. As for myself, my only "threat" has
taken the form of, action should you or your cronies, present or past,
cause or appear to be trying to cause harm to me, mine, or Don's.


You mixed past tense and future tense. Getting lost?


Can't seem to follow, Greg?\



Hard to miss the amusement value in a staggering drunk Dan. But
sometimes your pal's logic does tax patience. Especially when he starts
whining that he's being picked on by anybody who disagrees with you guys
crap. (CPS view of life.)





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Old August 1st 07, 09:51 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.divorce,misc.kids
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Default Kane ratting out on his OWN bargain he offered AF? Attorney name

On Jul 28, 8:05 pm, Greegor wrote:
I can't speak for Firemonkey. As for myself, my only "threat" has
taken the form of, action should you or your cronies, present or past,
cause or appear to be trying to cause harm to me, mine, or Don's.


You mixed past tense and future tense. Getting lost?

One time he posted a general warning letter
which did not name any person,


Why would one in a general statement.


A proper cease and desist order would not
be based on INNUENDO, but specific actions,
and would specifically name the party intended for.


Of course. What cease and desist order did I mention?


That's what your ""lawyer approved"" threatgram was.

I have said, "if," Greg, repeatedly.


Have a stutter?

I am no long willing to tolerate your studied
and deliberate ignorance, that you think frees you to
make the same false claims over and over again.


Kane wrote
"no long willing to tolerate"

LOL Ptbptbptbthth

This was resolved long ago in exchanges with us, and you simply ignore
that and lie again, about what I said and how I said it.


Feel free to post my actual Usenet post that would support your claim.


What you posted was more like some ROYAL DECREE,
a public display of your Megalomania.


That I would not tolerate you or anyone involved going without action
should one of YOU take action against me and mine?


how is that megalomania, Greg?


Kane wrote

I am no long willing to tolerate your studied
and deliberate ignorance, that you think frees you to
make the same false claims over and over again.


Whiny and megalomaniac comments!

G not even an alias it was addressed to,
K No reason to post that here.


Not if you don't intend it to be a legal notice.


It was a notice, not a legal action. All that is required in it is for
me to describe...and I really don't have to do that, the conditions
under which I would take action "if."


I did that. But I certainly didn't include all my options.


Did it fulfill some innermost need for you?

G and he said that his
G attorney had read and approved the letter.
K Yes, he did.
G He conveniently never mentioned the supposed lawyers name.
K Why would I?


To lend it some authenticity, at the very least.


I don't NEED his name or anyone's to
make a simple statement of my intent.


In other words it was just more GASBAGGING.

Without his name, signature and Bar Association
number your claims are obvious fraud.


What claims?


Your ""lawyer approved"" letter was just more GASBAGGING.

And would that make my statement of intent to take action "IF" a
'fraud.' I wrote it. I said it. I meant it.


You dealt it, you ""smelt"" it.

Even if I never activate for cause, "if" factor, it's not a fraud.
Unless you can read my mind and I'm telling you I never intended to
act on it "if" you little twerps did anything.


Bla Bla bla... Keep flapping your gums...

So, while your in there, look for my memory of that airline stewardess
I dated in the 60s. Can't seem to recall her face any more. 0:]


Thank you Commander McBrag!

G His sock or idiotic protege' Firemonkey has ALSO made
G false accusations and threats of action against me by her
G ex the cop AND threats of legal action.
K So, defy her and continue.


I fart in your general direction.


As usual, just like when you ****, the wind is in your direction.
That's what you get for being too 'general.'


In other words, you are determinedly stupid, as are others, and refuse
to take this seriously the possible consequences of your own actions.


You are a wheazing old senile bag of flatulence.

Either through arrested development or "second childhood"
you seem to have thought processes very much like
a petulent kid with ADHD, angry and on a
crusade against spanking and parents.

You want to be taken SERIOUSLY? LOL

Stop making impotent threats and sue me.
Prove you are something more than a flatulent old gas bag.

G Firemonkey claimed she paid for ""information"" on me.
K Did she?
She so claimed.
For information that's in the online phone book!


One can put false information in an online phone book. One can request
the site remove, or change information.


Do you wear Depends or some other brand of incontinence products?

G Just like Kane's many threats of legal action,


K I did not make many threats, and I followed through.


Not the threats you made to me. Pure gas bagging.


I didn't make any threats to you, other than contingent on, "if"
certain things happened.


Gas bagging. Pure flatulence.

K One reader knows that, to his sorrow.


Proof?


You? Ask ME for proof?


It was already posted in this newsgroup.


And the cause as well.


It should be EASY to search out and link to then!
Was it a legal action?
Can I look it up through online court records?

You have tooted this horn over and over again
but always just a bit off pitch.

Who? What? When? Where? Why? How?

If you can't figure it out, then that's your loss. And explains why
you are so stupid as to threaten me with false claims.


What claim did you ever prove?

G none of the threats came true even though I am
G openly listed in the phone book.


Did I name you specifically?
Yes.


Contingent on what?


Flatulence.

Sappy "candy bar" logic lesson snipped

And are we out of time?
Yes.


G There IS such a thing as abusing threats of law suit.
K Is there? You have a statute that clarifies your claim?
Not necessary.


Then you made an empty claim, based on your opinion. I also then have
abused, by my statement above, abusing threats to send a chocolate
bar.


That is your opinion based on your interpretation of my opinion.
How much wood would a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck
wood?

And the two are just about equally funny to view when your comment of
'abuse' is added.


You are easily amused.

G Attempting to intimidate, drive off or squelch an
G opponent is certainly an abuse.


K That depends on methods used and the
K truth of YOUR claim that I did.


K I still have copies of me begging you to stay.
K Have you forgotten them.


Meaningless


On the contrary. They were seriously meant, and seriously written, and
read seriously to anyone that can comprehend the english language
sufficiently. I do not want you to ever leave this forum.


You are my "Nazi in a bell jar".

That doesn't mean that I'll give up my rights to free speech and
withhold my opinions of you to keep you here.


Yes, without an opinionated nature you would cease being.
You wear your issues on your shirt sleave and your
concept of self importance is based on that, isn't it?

Won't they let you take a computer to the Nursing Home? LOL

What methods have I used to attempt to drive you off, or intimidate
you? Please be clear in your explanation


You are a gracious social butterfly! LOL

G Kane and his crowd have a propensity for such
G threats of legal action.
K Crowd?
cohorts


The use of that word strongly suggests a group that each member has
some responsibility for the actions or every other. That they act in
concert, and they decide together what acts to take, and the rationale
for them.


Or it could be as simple as you all kiss each others butt constantly.

We've even disagreed publicly, if you include Dan and Betty. I believe
I may have differed with others as well, that have not taken a liking
to you.


Aw! You're breaking my heart, really! You mean person you!

You accused me, after I admonished one of them, of them being a sock
attacking you and me covering that it was I that took what I felt to
be unethical actions.


Does that look like a "cohort" response?


Yes, to a "Double Naught Spy" like you! Secret Agent Man....

Your financial dealings that became legal issues were outside the
purvey of this forum, and your personally stated reasons for being
here. I did not protest the marital and domestic abuse issue simply
because it WAS part of the subject matter you introduced.


Thank you Lord Kane! LOL

You never discussed your finances other than your job issues. Hence I
was not tolerant of that being a point of discussion.


You were not tolerant? What a power tripping fartbag!

In fact, as I look back and your admitted work record, it occurs to me
now I might have been wrong to admonish the poster. You DID say you
were on a sabbatical, and we can be fairly sure it was for at least
three years.


In any case, I defended you, and you are so caught up in yourself and
your little games you could not accept that. Show that I posted as
someone else that made that disclosure.


Flapping your lips when you type again?

Kane wrote
I have a question for you. If you think I'm Don Fisher, and you have
all this action going about him, with various threats of your own, and
claims of illegal ...


Claims of illegal what?


... acts.


Thank you for catching my oversight.


What claims of illegal acts by Donald?

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Newsgroups: alt.support.child-protective-services,
alt.dads-rights.unmoderated, alt.parenting.spanking,
alt.support.foster-parents, alt.support.divorce
From: Greegor
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:06:05 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 16 2007 3:06 am
Subject: Fairfax CPS Socialworker fabricates Sexual Abuse
Allegations.


K You seem awful touchy lately.


Who's swearing?


Say, tell me, do you think Donald L. Fisher, who you have identified
as living in Bend Oregon and an employee of CPS, actually pandered to
perverts and spammed children in state custody to them, Greg?


Yes. ...


Kane wrote



... remember you


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So, whoi is Kane's lawyer? Is ist the same one Don Fisher gonna use?
If so, I'd say Kane should get a colonoscopy. Maybe then he can find
his head!

AF

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On Aug 1, 3:51 pm, "AnneF-" wrote:
So, whoi is Kane's lawyer? Is ist the same one Don Fisher gonna use?
If so, I'd say Kane should get a colonoscopy. Maybe then he can find
his head!
AF


Have you received any legal notices yet? I haven't.

 




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