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California is on its way to becoming the first state to mandate Merck's GARDASIL vaccine for all 11 year old girls.
On Jul 12, 8:24?am, Beliavsky wrote:
On Jul 12, 12:05 am, "Stormlady" wrote: snip You do realize that it doesn't protect you for life though, only about 10 years or so. How long does Gardasil protect against HPV? When asking this question, you must ask also how long it protects against which strains of HPV, as there are many, some that MAY lead to cancer, and even doesn't protect against ALL strains that are believed to POSSIBLY lead to cancer. You can still develop cervical cancer without ever contracting HPV, any type, - period. |
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California is on its way to becoming the first state to mandate Merck's GARDASIL vaccine for all 11 year old girls.
On Jul 12, 9:17?am, Jeff wrote:
bigvince wrote: On Jul 12, 8:24 am, Beliavsky wrote: On Jul 12, 12:05 am, "Stormlady" wrote: snip You do realize that it doesn't protect you for life though, only about 10 years or so. How long does Gardasil protect against HPV? The facts are no one can tell how effective Gardasil is at preventing cancer; certainly much less than most think . A recent Wall Street Journal article made that point. Actually, the article was misleading. It focused on teens who already were infected with HPV, which we hope the 11-year olds aren't. Anyway, if you want accurate information on the vaccine, go he http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hpv/default.htm Jeff Amid growing concerns as to safety and effectiveness the Texas Legislature repealed Gov .Perrys executive order mandating HPV vaccine for all sixth grade girls ;these concerns are outlined in the April 16 "the Wall Street Journal" article questioning the effectiveness of Gardasil Mercks HPV vaccine. Gardasil been "dogged with uncertainty' as to it's effectiveness read more http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...67980&nfid=rss... These and other concerns caused the Texas repeal. The feeling was summed up by Republican Rep. Dennis Bonnen bristled at the governor's criticism of his bill. "We should not and are now not going to offer the 165,000 11-year- olds in Texas up to be the study group for Merck to find out what the implications of this vaccine would be for these girls," he said.". source Perry won't vetovirus vaccinnations bill. May 8 2007 , Liz Ann Peterson, A.P. Fox link http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007May...vicalCancer,00 .... The same point was made in the New England Journal of Medicine "Policymakers, clinicians, and parents have a keen sense of urgency about HPV vaccination. On one hand, the vaccine has high efficacy against certain HPV types that cause life-threatening disease, and it appears to be safe; delaying vaccination may mean that many women will miss an opportunity for long-lasting protection. On the other hand, a cautious approach may be warranted in light of important unanswered questions about overall vaccine effectiveness, duration of protection, and adverse effects that may emerge over time. HPV vaccination has the potential for profound public health benefit if the most optimistic scenario of effectiveness is realized. "http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/356/19/1991 It 's a little technical but basically it says that the amount this vaccine will reduce cancer is unknown. The only think known for sure is that mandating this vaccine will be very profitable for the maker. Thanks Vince- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - See these as well...http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials/results/ cervical-cancer-vaccine1102 and http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/co...tearea=&level= |
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California is on its way to becoming the first state to mandate Merck's GARDASIL vaccine for all 11 year old girls.
"Jeff" wrote in message news:VRpli.18069$MV6.1129@trnddc01... Anyway, if you want accurate information on the vaccine, go he http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hpv/default.htm Jeff CDC is the premier pharma shill |
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California is on its way to becoming the first state to mandate Merck's GARDASIL vaccine for all 11 year old girls.
"Chris" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 12, 8:24?am, Beliavsky wrote: When asking this question, you must ask also how long it protects against which strains of HPV, as there are many, some that MAY lead to cancer, and even doesn't protect against ALL strains that are believed to POSSIBLY lead to cancer. You can still develop cervical cancer without ever contracting HPV, any type, - period. If tumours without HPV actually do worse, then what might be the flow on effects of using an HPV vaccine? Might cervical cancer actually become more serious and more deadly? Is this a stone that hasn't been turned over yet? Have you ever seen a Public Health Worker sit down with young women, with the huge pile of medical articles which show for instance, that nutrient deficiencies (selenium and folic acid to mention only two) are a key component in the development of cervical cancer? By impressing on everyone the need to get nutrition right, Public Health Workers would not only reduce the potential development of cervical cancer from a young age, they might also slash the rates of all other cancers, infections, diabetes complications, and many other hospitalizations. [June 2007 letter by Hilary Butler Gardasil vaccine] Democracy, or Orson Welles' 1984? As of today, the Gardasil vaccine has never been proven to decrease the actual incidence of cervical cancer."...In fact, according to the text Cancer: Principles & Practice of Oncology, "In most studies, HPV status was not a strong independent prognosticator of outcome in cervical cancer patients; however there appears to be a trend for HPV-negative tumors to do worse .those tumors containing HPV DNA tend to be of an early stage and low grade."4 This suggests that if the goal is to reduce deaths from cervical cancer the target should not be HPV at all because the tumors without HPV actually "do worse." ---- Gardasil - the Cervical Cancer Vaccine? April 18, 2007 |
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California is on its way to becoming the first state to mandateMerck's GARDASIL vaccine for all 11 year old girls.
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"Sarah Vaughan" wrote in message ... I don't know whether rubella immunisation protects for life (that was a figure of speech ;-) ) but it almost always protects for longer than ten years. I've had to look at a lot of routine bloods on pregnant women in my time, including a lot of checks for rubella immunity. In that time, I've only ever come across one woman in whom the vaccine had worn off. (Which would make you the second.) Using antibodies as a measure of immunity is junk science http://www.whale.to/vaccines/antibody.html Antibodies are the molecules that actually attack the virus. Doesn't sound like junk science to me. Of course, it may be a bit more common in the US, because the women whose rubella results I've been looking at have largely been the women who've been vaccinated at the age of around 11 or 12, whereas the US has had it as part of the infant immunisations for much longer. Maybe that extra ten years means that there's more chance of the jab wearing off - it would be interesting to look at some comparative statistics. Anyway, as Anne said, it's now part of the MMR with booster, so hopefully cases like that will become even rarer. Rubella vax is just another useless vaccination http://www.whale.to/v/rubella9.html that cripples plenty Rubella used to a leading cause of birth defects and miscarrages. Thanks to vaccines, rubella related birth defects are very rare in the US. ... |
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California is on its way to becoming the first state to mandateMerck's GARDASIL vaccine for all 11 year old girls.
JOHN wrote:
"Beliavsky" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 12, 12:05 am, "Stormlady" wrote: snip You do realize that it doesn't protect you for life though, only about 10 years or so. How long does Gardasil protect against HPV? no vaccine protects againts anything, they just line the pockets of allopathy Tell that to all the families of people who died of small pox, polio and measles in the US last year. Oops, thanks to vaccines, there aren't any. they make it up as they go along, they said one mumps vaccine protected, then they said it was completely useless, after using it for decades Mumps can be a serious disease, especially in adults. just think of all those booster shots http://www.whale.to/v/schedule.html For accurate info on vaccines, go he http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/ |
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California is on its way to becoming the first state to mandateMerck's GARDASIL vaccine for all 11 year old girls.
JOHN wrote:
"Beliavsky" wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 12, 12:05 am, "Stormlady" wrote: snip You do realize that it doesn't protect you for life though, only about 10 years or so. How long does Gardasil protect against HPV? no vaccine protects againts anything, they just line the pockets of allopathy Tell that to all the doctors who used to spend a lot of time treating Hib menigitis before the Hib vaccine came out. Or all the parents who would have to stay home with their sick kids who have chicken pox. And how many people died of smallpox last year? ... Jeff |
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California is on its way to becoming the first state to mandateMerck's GARDASIL vaccine for all 11 year old girls.
Tell that to all the families of people who died of small pox, polio and measles in the US last year. Oops, thanks to vaccines, there aren't any. There was someone who dies of measles in the UK last year, it was a teenage boy in a gyspy community, so not someone who'd likely have been caught in a vaccination program, but who wouldn't have been exposed to the virus had the take up of the vaccine been higher (I think MMR take up had dropped to the 70 percents for the relevant time period). Cheers Anne |
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California is on its way to becoming the first state to mandate Merck's GARDASIL vaccine for all 11 year old girls.
"Anne Rogers" wrote in message ... Tell that to all the families of people who died of small pox, polio and measles in the US last year. Oops, thanks to vaccines, there aren't any. Pure wishful thinking, as all the evidence shows vaccination played not the slightest part. I shredded the great smallpox lie over and over again http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html [1921] There are no adequate statistics showing these fatalities, but it may be estimated that in England and Wales no fewer than 6,000 Infants are Killed every Year by Vaccination. This is perhaps the least part of the damage. The Great Damage is that caused to Teeth, Eyesight and Constitution, by the illness of vaccinia forced upon the infant at the most critical and delicate period of its life. [1921] Vaccination and the State By Arnold Lupton MP. [1880] That since Vaccination has been rendered obligatory, infantile syphilis (under one year old) has been increased in England, according to a Parliamentary return, dated February 25th, 1880, from 472 per million of births in 1847, to 1,736 per million in 1877, or fourfold; and that other inoculable diseases, such as pyaemia, scrofula, erysipelas, and bronchitis, were also augmented in infants. In England, the increase of inoculable diseases was 20 per cent., notwithstanding an expenditure of 200 millions sterling since 1850 in sanitary works. Another Parliamentary return (No. 443, Session 1877) demonstrates that 25,000 babies are yearly sacrificed by diseases excited by Vaccination. International Anti-Vaccination League points against vaccination 1880 as you can see it was killing thousands, and didn't save one single life Polio was the way they covered up DDT poisoning. The man who headed up the march of Dimes used to work for the DDT industry. Go figure. I have. There was someone who dies of measles in the UK last year, it was a teenage boy in a gyspy community, so not someone who'd likely have been caught in a vaccination program, but who wouldn't have been exposed to the virus had the take up of the vaccine been higher (I think MMR take up had dropped to the 70 percents for the relevant time period). Same with measles http://www.whale.to/vaccines/measles.html Deaths had declined by 99.4% before vaccination. That should be enough to convince the ones who can think for themselves. Cliffoprd Miller hits the spot withy recent Offit lies on measles daeths http://www.whale.to/v/offitt.html And we all know over 50% of measles cases have been vaccination, anyway, so you risk autism etc for something that doesn't do what they claim anyway. And the real kicker is the fact vitamin C would prevent ALL deaths, known for 50 years but suppressed by allopathy high command as Dr levy shows with 2,000 peer review citations http://www.whale.to/a/levy_h.html |
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California is on its way to becoming the first state to mandate Merck's GARDASIL vaccine for all 11 year old girls.
"Jeff" wrote in message news:1xyli.2210$YH3.1181@trnddc08... Tell that to all the doctors who used to spend a lot of time treating Hib menigitis before the Hib vaccine came out. Or all the parents who would have to stay home with their sick kids who have chicken pox. And how many people died of smallpox last year? yawn. http://www.whale.to/a/chickenpox.html http://www.whale.to/v/meningitis8.html |
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