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Old July 23rd 04, 03:55 AM
Dhelderman
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Default 10 year old steals lighters and plays with fire.

I have a 10 year old who recently started taking my lighters when i laid
them down by my cigerettes. So now i keep it all locked up. This morning i
got up
and he had burnt card board on our gas stove. Does anyone have
any suggestions on what i can do or say to him to get him to stop i don't
think he realizes how easy fire can get away from him.. I"m afraid one day
he's going to burn down the house in my sleep or catch something on fire
when i'm not in the same room with him


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Old July 23rd 04, 05:24 AM
Rosalie B.
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"Dhelderman" wrote:

I have a 10 year old who recently started taking my lighters when i laid
them down by my cigerettes. So now i keep it all locked up. This morning i
got up
and he had burnt card board on our gas stove. Does anyone have
any suggestions on what i can do or say to him to get him to stop i don't
think he realizes how easy fire can get away from him.. I"m afraid one day
he's going to burn down the house in my sleep or catch something on fire
when i'm not in the same room with him

I would be surprised if this could be handled without psychiatric
intervention. I do not think it is normal for a child this age to be
so fascinated with fire.


grandma Rosalie

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Old July 23rd 04, 02:13 PM
Penny Gaines
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Rosalie B. wrote in :

"Dhelderman" wrote:

I have a 10 year old who recently started taking my lighters when i laid
them down by my cigerettes. So now i keep it all locked up. This morning
i got up
and he had burnt card board on our gas stove. Does anyone have
any suggestions on what i can do or say to him to get him to stop i don't
think he realizes how easy fire can get away from him.. I"m afraid one day
he's going to burn down the house in my sleep or catch something on fire
when i'm not in the same room with him

I would be surprised if this could be handled without psychiatric
intervention. I do not think it is normal for a child this age to be
so fascinated with fire.


I've just posted on mk, but I do think it is normal for children this age
to become interested in fire. I know I was at that sort of age and at least
four of my friends were.

What I would do would be too teach my kid about fire safety. I'd ban fires
inside, but I'd try and find somewhere outside where he can light fires -
under supervision - and learn about them that way. The Cub Scout pack
my son goes to has sessions where they cook very small sausages over candle
flames, maybe you (the OP that is) could do that with your child.

--
Penny Gaines
UK mum to three

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Old July 23rd 04, 02:16 PM
Rich
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"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
"Dhelderman" wrote:

I have a 10 year old who recently started taking my lighters when i laid
them down by my cigerettes. So now i keep it all locked up. This morning

i
got up
and he had burnt card board on our gas stove. Does anyone have
any suggestions on what i can do or say to him to get him to stop i don't
think he realizes how easy fire can get away from him.. I"m afraid one

day
he's going to burn down the house in my sleep or catch something on fire
when i'm not in the same room with him

I would be surprised if this could be handled without psychiatric
intervention. I do not think it is normal for a child this age to be
so fascinated with fire.


"Psychiatric intervention"!?! How about just quit leaving lighters laying
around!? Or better yet quit smoking. Leave a loaded handgun by your
cigarettes then come back later you're in the same situation as leaving a
lighter laying around. I believe one should at least try to keep dangerous
things out of reach of children. It says so right on the lighter: "KEEP OUT
OF REACH OF CHILDREN"! I must sound like a smarty pants but this is just
common sense!

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Old July 23rd 04, 03:29 PM
Tony Rice
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Default 10 year old steals lighters and plays with fire.

"Dhelderman" wrote in
:

I have a 10 year old who recently started taking my lighters when i
laid
them down by my cigerettes. So now i keep it all locked up. This
morning i got up
and he had burnt card board on our gas stove. Does anyone have
any suggestions on what i can do or say to him to get him to stop i
don't think he realizes how easy fire can get away from him.. I"m
afraid one day he's going to burn down the house in my sleep or catch
something on fire when i'm not in the same room with him


Have you tried directing this energy and interest in fire into something
positive? Stop by your local fire department and ask your question. They
might have some fire safety materials they can provide that you could go
through with him. Have him help put together a fire escape plan and
practice it as a family.

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Old July 23rd 04, 05:18 PM
dragonlady
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Default 10 year old steals lighters and plays with fire.

In article c%0Mc.6644$BX.6505@lakeread08, "Rich"
wrote:

"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
"Dhelderman" wrote:

I have a 10 year old who recently started taking my lighters when i laid
them down by my cigerettes. So now i keep it all locked up. This morning

i
got up
and he had burnt card board on our gas stove. Does anyone have
any suggestions on what i can do or say to him to get him to stop i don't
think he realizes how easy fire can get away from him.. I"m afraid one

day
he's going to burn down the house in my sleep or catch something on fire
when i'm not in the same room with him

I would be surprised if this could be handled without psychiatric
intervention. I do not think it is normal for a child this age to be
so fascinated with fire.


"Psychiatric intervention"!?! How about just quit leaving lighters laying
around!? Or better yet quit smoking. Leave a loaded handgun by your
cigarettes then come back later you're in the same situation as leaving a
lighter laying around. I believe one should at least try to keep dangerous
things out of reach of children. It says so right on the lighter: "KEEP OUT
OF REACH OF CHILDREN"! I must sound like a smarty pants but this is just
common sense!


You may not have read the entire OP carefully. They ARE keeping the
lighters locked up -- the child has escalated to torching things on the
gas stove. A child of 10 who wants to light fires is going to find a
way to do it, no matter WHAT you keep under lock and key.

And, yes, if a child becomes obsessive about something that is
dangerous, psychiatric intervention may, indeed, be called for. I'm not
sure it has gotten that far yet -- I don't know what the boy's parents
are doing to give him SAFE opportunities to "play with fire" -- but if
he continues to light fires in secreat AFTER they give him safe ways and
places to do it -- yes, psychiatric intervention seems called for.
--
Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care

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Old July 23rd 04, 05:32 PM
Dhelderman
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Default 10 year old steals lighters and plays with fire.

i now keep my lighters locked up so he cannot get them.. He's moved on to
my gas stove to light things now. I can't lock that up.
"Rich" wrote in message
news:c%0Mc.6644$BX.6505@lakeread08...
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
...
"Dhelderman" wrote:

I have a 10 year old who recently started taking my lighters when i

laid
them down by my cigerettes. So now i keep it all locked up. This

morning
i
got up
and he had burnt card board on our gas stove. Does anyone have
any suggestions on what i can do or say to him to get him to stop i

don't
think he realizes how easy fire can get away from him.. I"m afraid one

day
he's going to burn down the house in my sleep or catch something on

fire
when i'm not in the same room with him

I would be surprised if this could be handled without psychiatric
intervention. I do not think it is normal for a child this age to be
so fascinated with fire.


"Psychiatric intervention"!?! How about just quit leaving lighters laying
around!? Or better yet quit smoking. Leave a loaded handgun by your
cigarettes then come back later you're in the same situation as leaving a
lighter laying around. I believe one should at least try to keep dangerous
things out of reach of children. It says so right on the lighter: "KEEP

OUT
OF REACH OF CHILDREN"! I must sound like a smarty pants but this is just
common sense!



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Old July 23rd 04, 05:33 PM
Rosalie B.
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"Rich" wrote:
"Rosalie B." wrote in message
.. .
"Dhelderman" wrote:

I have a 10 year old who recently started taking my lighters when i laid
them down by my cigerettes. So now i keep it all locked up. This morning i
got up
and he had burnt card board on our gas stove. Does anyone have
any suggestions on what i can do or say to him to get him to stop i don't
think he realizes how easy fire can get away from him.. I"m afraid one day
he's going to burn down the house in my sleep or catch something on fire
when i'm not in the same room with him

I would be surprised if this could be handled without psychiatric
intervention. I do not think it is normal for a child this age to be
so fascinated with fire.


"Psychiatric intervention"!?! How about just quit leaving lighters laying
around!? Or better yet quit smoking. Leave a loaded handgun by your
cigarettes then come back later you're in the same situation as leaving a
lighter laying around. I believe one should at least try to keep dangerous
things out of reach of children. It says so right on the lighter: "KEEP OUT
OF REACH OF CHILDREN"! I must sound like a smarty pants but this is just
common sense!


It's not common sense and yes you do sound like a smarty pants (You
said it) Or rather like someone who is leaping to judgment without
actually reading and processing all that was written. And responding
with a good bit of hyperbole - comparing a lighter to a loaded gun is
definite over the top exaggeration.

Because she's said that she's already locked up the lighters. What
she can't lock up is her gas stove.

I don't see anything wrong with being interested in fire. That wasn't
what led me to suggest psychiatric help. What triggered that was that
the kid to sneaks away to do it behind his mom's back when he is an at
age where he KNOWS that it is forbidden and is TEN and not some
toddler who can't control his impulses. I don't think a mom should
have to hide lighters from a 10 yo child - that's something that you
do when they are TWO.

And the fire training needs to be done a bit earlier, although I will
suspend judgment on that.

grandma Rosalie

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Old July 24th 04, 03:13 AM
Rupa Bose
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Default 10 year old steals lighters and plays with fire.

"Dhelderman" wrote in message ...
I have a 10 year old who recently started taking my lighters when i laid
them down by my cigerettes. So now i keep it all locked up. This morning i
got up
and he had burnt card board on our gas stove. Does anyone have
any suggestions on what i can do or say to him to get him to stop i don't
think he realizes how easy fire can get away from him.. I"m afraid one day
he's going to burn down the house in my sleep or catch something on fire
when i'm not in the same room with him




Teach him how to cook, maybe?

At 10, he should be able to handle working safely with fire.

Rupa

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Old July 27th 04, 02:20 PM
Jeff
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"Dhelderman" wrote in message
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I have a 10 year old who recently started taking my lighters when i laid
them down by my cigerettes.


Idea that will help you and your son: stop smoking.

As you point out, there are other source of fire (the stove), but at least
there will be one temptation gone and your lungs and his will be in better
shape.

Jeff


 




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