A 6-hour feed? (long, sorry)

She's A Goddess wrote in message
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"Larry McMahan" wrote in message
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Cheryl S. writes:


: :-p~~~~~

Can you help me with this. I'm emoticon challenged.
Was that something like pffffffftt?

Larry

I believe she's sticking her tongue out at you Larry

lol. Yep, you both guessed it. Sticking out tongue and going
pffffffftt. :-)
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Cheryl S.
Mom to Julie, 2 yr., 6 mo.
And Jaden, 1 month

Cleaning the house while your children are small is like
shoveling the sidewalk while it's still snowing.

"Cheryl S." wrote:

Tina wrote in message
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Sage did this a few times, but I didn't know any better
and thought it was normal. She was colicky, though,
so I guessed the other option was to let her cry, and I
picked nursing for 5-6 hours at a time.

That's the good news I guess - at least he is just eating a lot but (so
far) isn't colicky.

I feared Ben was colicky but eliminating onions from my diet nipped that.



That may not be helpful, but I can say that she stopped
at a few months old, and she'd often sleep better after
an evening like you describe.

If only that were the case for me! :-) I think it would be easier to
tolerate if I thought I'd get some pay-off, but he still gets up just as
much throughout the night (had been 12:00, 3:00, 6:00, then every two
hours all morning). OTOH maybe what I thought was "normal" *was*
actually "better". The past two nights, he's had shorter feeding
frenzies in the evening (from about 6:00 to 10:00) but then has been up
every hour all night. I am SO tired, I can't even think.

I can sympathize. Ben is a 'snacker'. He'll nurse every 30-45 minutes but
for 5-8 minutes max. Maybe once a day
he'll have a good long sleep of a couple hours and a good long nurse when
he wakes. On a good night he'll give me
1-2 2-3 hour stretches between nursings. Honestly though he sleeps on my
chest and I just attach and re-attach him while I am half asleep
and don't know just how often he wakes.



snip I set up a TV tray, put a dishcloth over
her head and ate while I nursed her. It sounds rather horrible, but
you need to eat especially when you're nursing so much!

I've resorted to eating while nursing quite a few times now too. I
don't think it sounds horrible at all.

If we didn't do that when we would eat? unless I could enjoy a meal
listening to a screaming baby. NOT!




Also, I got really good at nursing at the keyboard!

I'd like to be able to do this but the sound of the keyboard *really*
irritates DS. I thought they were supposed to be used to sounds they
heard a lot in the womb. Or, I guess he's been really irritated for the
past 10 months, lol.

I wish he'd nurse a little longer and get some more hindmilk. His weight
gain is adequate (8-5 at 2 weeks compared to a low of 7-4) but not
what I am used to (babies gaining a full pound or close to it per week)

I am thrilled that he does well in the sling (currently the Adjustable
cotton pouch from Kangaroo Korner). He may fuss for a minute but always
setlles down
and eventually falls asleep, if he didn't cooperate with that I don't know
what I'd do.

karen

"Cheryl S." wrote in message
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I know it's normal for babies to feed continuously for a couple hours in
the evening. DD did that, usually from about 7:00 to 10:00 every
evening. I wouldn't have a problem with that. DS had been doing that,
but over the past few days it's been getting longer and longer -
starting earlier and ending later. Yesterday was just unbelievable.
He's four weeks and one day old. Now, starting in the early afternoon,
he eats more and more frequently, (at least every hour) leading up to
the evening feeding frenzy where he only lets go so he can yell until I
put him to the other side. Last night he was eating from 6:00 pm to
midnight, non-stop, no exaggeration. He really was *eating*, too - I
was still feeling let downs fairly regularly right up to 12:00 and he
was gulping it down. I got so hungry for dinner, I had to leave him
scream for 10 minutes to microwave some soup, gulp half of it down, then
repeat that sequence after next time he dropped off one side (DH had a
business dinner). I am having a hard time dealing with having to nurse
him so much, mostly because I am so exhausted by 9:00. The only time I
could nap (during DD's nap) he's already starting in on the frequent
feedings and there isn't time between the end of one feed and start of
the next to do much more than pee and refill my water bottle (I'm
drinking at least 96 oz of water -- that's just during the evening). I
thought after a growth spurt, the feedings are supposed to get further
apart? Why are they getting more frequent at this point? Is something
wrong here? He was 1 1/4 pounds heavier than DD at birth. I've always
had complete confidence in bf but yesterday I really started to wonder.
Is it because of his size, does he need too much milk, too soon, for my
body to keep up? (Birthweight was 8 lbs 1 oz, which I know isn't
earth-shattering, but I was stunned that a baby over 8 pounds could
possibly come from me.) I swear he is visibly fatter today than
yesterday, so I don't think he's failing to gain weight. I guess I'm
just looking for either reassurance that this is within the realm of
normal and, hopefully, that it won't last much longer, or for
information on whether this might indicate some problem and what I
should do about it.

It's not a problem, in and of itself, for a baby to nurse that much,
particularly when they're in the midst of going from newborn to butter
baby... The "problem" is not with you or your ability to supply the goods
(if you couldn't, he wouldn't have been fatter this morning...) but in how
it interferes with your ability to do anything else.

Time to really focus on learning how to breastfeed in a baby sling. If you
can even free one hand, you'll be ahead. Also time to nurse lying down.

Yes, his nursing WILL slow down at some point...but it may not be for
another two weeks.

One other thing to try... when he drops off one side and needs to burp, put
him back on the same side to give him extra hind milk, which will make him
feel fuller and more satisfied. (For a comparison--if I have white bread
with jam, I'm often hungrier when I finish the slice than when I started
eating. If I have whole wheat bread with almond butter, I'm fuller when I'm
done eating it. The hindmilk/foremilk thing can be similar--if he's getting
a hit of appetite-stimulating foremilk every time he swaps sides, he's
feeling hungry/hungry not because he's not getting enough calories, but
because he's not getting enough FAT and too much sugarry foremilk.)

Jenrose

I have no suggestions, just sympathy! I remember
trying to explain to people that if I nurse
continuously for 45 minutes, I can get maybe 10
to 15 minute of "free" time to get some water, then
Pillbug would want more nursing. I remember
wondering how I could get people to believe that
I only had a few usable minutes every hour!
(And not have them think I'm doing something really
wrong!)

lol! It's starting to come back to me... My daughter went from 7 lb 11 1/2
oz at birth to 20 pounds by 4 months old. You can just IMAGINE the nursing
marathons. I just nursed her as much as she wanted to. Had a Baby Bundler
which helped at the time--I could just wear her and nurse her constantly in
those first months. She didn't crawl until she was 10 months old--I spent a
lot of time sitting and even did some telecourses by hooking a TV up and
watching classes lying down nursing. Did a LOT of reading... lot of computer
games while nak, back before we had an abbrevation for it (I didn't get
internet access until my daughter was 2 1/2... can you imagine? When I did
get access, the "abbreviation" was simply the complete lack of punctuation
and capitalization caused by typing one-handed...)

Now, with the range of slings and baby carriers I have, I can't really
imagine being tied down the way I was (ironic..)

With my foster son, I just wore him everywhere and fed him on the spot
(bottles, had to) wherever we happened to be. He was coming to work with me
when he was 3 days old (we don't interact with the public much, so it
worked) and choir when he was not-quite a week old, etc. In fact, I find an
ever-hungry newborn easier to "port" and less disruptive (because if you're
nursing, you just latch and go and people don't really notice) than I do a
babbling 4 month old or a grabby 8-month-old.

Jenrose

"Tina" wrote in message
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Hi Cheryl!



I got really used to cold food, but I did eat (a lot, actually),
mostly by getting my dinner ready in the afternoon and setting up
plates, in the fridge, then microwaving them when she'd start nursing.
By the time she switched sides, it's be cooled down to the point of
not burning (her, not me),and I set up a TV tray, put a dishcloth over
her head and ate while I nursed her. It sounds rather horrible, but
you need to eat especially when you're nursing so much!

I think that next year, when I'm pregnant, I'll make a TON of meat pasties
and pizza pockets (I do them with a bread crust, whole wheat, and no cheese,
so they're insanely healthy) because they can be frozen, thawed, and then
eating hot or cold without suffering--and it's nice to have a handy
"package" that, unlike a sandwich, won't fall out the ends!

Jenrose

"Jenrose" wrote:
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Time to really focus on learning how to breastfeed in a baby sling. If
you can even free one hand, you'll be ahead. Also time to nurse lying
down.

I've got a Maya Wrap, and I've looked at the video several times, and I
just can't get it to work--not even to carry Bubeleh around, forget about
nursing him in it. I can't seem to adjust it in a way that makes sense, and
normally I do pretty well spatially. I really wanted to make it work,
because I'm still goosey about NIP, and basically have to take the baby out
of the New Native Baby sling in order to nurse.

So much of the time, I just don't go out if it would be more than an hour.
(I do like the NNB sling, BTW, Bloke loves it, and the baby seems
comfortable in it.) But I really want to get this sorted, I think my life
will be easier. I feel like a bit of an idiot for not being able to figure
it out.

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"Jenrose" wrote:
"Tina" wrote ...
[...]I set up a TV tray, put a dishcloth over
her head and ate while I nursed her. It sounds rather horrible, but
you need to eat especially when you're nursing so much!

I think that next year, when I'm pregnant, I'll make a TON of meat
pasties and pizza pockets (I do them with a bread crust, whole wheat, and
no cheese, so they're insanely healthy) because they can be frozen,
thawed, and then eating hot or cold without suffering--and it's nice to
have a handy "package" that, unlike a sandwich, won't fall out the ends!

I'm eating a lot of Jamaican beef patties and frozen pizza pockets, though
they're not home-made and insanely healthy (I thought about freezing food
while I was pg, but I worked full time up until I had my baby, just slept
on the weekends)...they're basically protein, carbs, and fat in a
manageable format. I like them. A patty and a 32 oz cup of water with a
McDonald's straw (they're fatter, and you can chug more water through
them), and I'm all set.

--
z e l d a b e e @ p a n i x . c o m http://NewsReader.Com/

zeldabee wrote:
I've got a Maya Wrap, and I've looked at the video several times, and I

just can't get it to work--not even to carry Bubeleh around, forget about
nursing him in it. I can't seem to adjust it in a way that makes sense, and
normally I do pretty well spatially. I really wanted to make it work,
because I'm still goosey about NIP, and basically have to take the baby out
of the New Native Baby sling in order to nurse.

I couldn't figure out the Maya wrap- but I gave up pretty early on it.
A friend of mine got in person advice at a local consignment store and
that really helped her. Getting some in person advice might help you-
you could try a LLL meeting or maybe a local store that seems AP friendly (so
they'd have an idea of what a sling is).

Mary

"zeldabee" wrote in message
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"Jenrose" wrote:
[...]
Time to really focus on learning how to breastfeed in a baby sling. If
you can even free one hand, you'll be ahead. Also time to nurse lying
down.

I've got a Maya Wrap, and I've looked at the video several times, and I
just can't get it to work--not even to carry Bubeleh around, forget about
nursing him in it. I can't seem to adjust it in a way that makes sense,
and
normally I do pretty well spatially. I really wanted to make it work,
because I'm still goosey about NIP, and basically have to take the baby
out
of the New Native Baby sling in order to nurse.

Describe, in detail, what you see as the difficulties... What position are
you trying to get baby into? What causes problems?

Jenrose

In message , zeldabee
writes

I've got a Maya Wrap, and I've looked at the video several times, and I
just can't get it to work--not even to carry Bubeleh around, forget about
nursing him in it. I can't seem to adjust it in a way that makes sense, and
normally I do pretty well spatially. I really wanted to make it work,
because I'm still goosey about NIP, and basically have to take the baby out
of the New Native Baby sling in order to nurse.

So much of the time, I just don't go out if it would be more than an hour.
(I do like the NNB sling, BTW, Bloke loves it, and the baby seems
comfortable in it.) But I really want to get this sorted, I think my life
will be easier. I feel like a bit of an idiot for not being able to figure
it out.

Likewise.

The Maya Wrap sling has just been sitting there, making me feel stupid,
and that it's yet another wasted purchase.
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat