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Old October 11th 06, 11:00 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents
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Default Do you take seriously the ...

.... issue of spanking, Corporal Punishment, abuse, and related topics,
and are you really interested in the research?

If so you might want to follow the sources I use, such as Strauss, more
directly:

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/

You too can fill your file cabinets, and office library shelves with
the research, reports, instruments and tools for social science
analysis.

Of course, Doan will call you a liar, but of course, coming from him, a
noted pathological liar, that's a plus. 0;-]

I participate with other researchers in many professional groups on
line. Some academic in nature.

You are not barred from participating, though if you aren't a bonifide
researcher you may not be given some of the materials...but at least,
where you can get them you will know just who lies, and how they do it,
in these newsgoups.

Usually your questions will be answered though. Look for the groups.
Google is your friend.

Kane

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Old October 12th 06, 12:06 AM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services
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Michael© wrote:
"0:-" wrote in
ups.com:

... issue of spanking, Corporal Punishment, abuse, and related topics,
and are you really interested in the research?

If so you might want to follow the sources I use, such as Strauss, more
directly:

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/

You too can fill your file cabinets, and office library shelves with
the research, reports, instruments and tools for social science
analysis.

Of course, Doan will call you a liar, but of course, coming from him, a
noted pathological liar, that's a plus. 0;-]

I participate with other researchers in many professional groups on
line. Some academic in nature.


LOL Sure you do. What groups can you point the readers here to?


I don't chose to. I gave them a lead. If they can't even google then
there's little likelihood they would make good use of information they
gleaned. Are YOU having trouble finding professional academic research
groups and individuals?

I correspond with them a lot.


You are not barred from participating, though if you aren't a bonifide
researcher you may not be given some of the materials...but at least,
where you can get them you will know just who lies, and how they do it,
in these newsgoups.


Since they are not barred from participation, they are most likely public,
either Usenet or elsewhere, share them or should the readers simply guess?


Guess, of course.

But then, some are intelligent and honest enough to not have to guess.
And you?


Usually your questions will be answered though. Look for the groups.
Google is your friend.


Just as I thought, let the readers guess and look for themselves. LOL


Yep.

Are you morally and ethically lying, Kane? I bet you are.


On this issue? Is someone's life or personal safety at risk? If not,
no.


Remember your own words, 'put up or shut up'. Why don't you heed them?


Oh, I do. On matters of real data and reseach. That's why you see a
link to Murray Straus early in the post.

We've debated him for some time, and while I've accessed his documents
many times, I doubt many others here have -- from the source.

And you?

I'm not your librarian, Michael. Learn to use google or other search
tools. It's really not hard.

If I have a claim related to data and research, a specific claim, trust
me, I'll either say it's not available on line, or I'll provide a link.
I do that as you know.

Michael©


You are yet another lie to insinuate other than the truth, Michael.
You've been here long enough to know that I don't "lie" about things
that are not issues of safety of life and limb to someone.

You also know that I do in fact provide citations in argument.

You also know that I've not 'demanded' someone produce a source when
there's nothing more than general interest. Only if they make a
supposed data or research backed claim.

Do you enjoy being a liar, Michael?

0:-



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Freiheit für Deutschland !


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Old October 12th 06, 12:07 AM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services
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Michael© wrote:
"0:-" wrote in
ups.com:

... issue of spanking, Corporal Punishment, abuse, and related topics,
and are you really interested in the research?

If so you might want to follow the sources I use, such as Strauss, more
directly:

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/

You too can fill your file cabinets, and office library shelves with
the research, reports, instruments and tools for social science
analysis.

Of course, Doan will call you a liar, but of course, coming from him, a
noted pathological liar, that's a plus. 0;-]

I participate with other researchers in many professional groups on
line. Some academic in nature.


LOL Sure you do. What groups can you point the readers here to?


I don't chose to. I gave them a lead. If they can't even google then
there's little likelihood they would make good use of information they
gleaned. Are YOU having trouble finding professional academic research
groups and individuals?

I correspond with them a lot.


You are not barred from participating, though if you aren't a bonifide
researcher you may not be given some of the materials...but at least,
where you can get them you will know just who lies, and how they do it,
in these newsgoups.


Since they are not barred from participation, they are most likely public,
either Usenet or elsewhere, share them or should the readers simply guess?


Guess, of course.

But then, some are intelligent and honest enough to not have to guess.
And you?


Usually your questions will be answered though. Look for the groups.
Google is your friend.


Just as I thought, let the readers guess and look for themselves. LOL


Yep.

Are you morally and ethically lying, Kane? I bet you are.


On this issue? Is someone's life or personal safety at risk? If not,
no.


Remember your own words, 'put up or shut up'. Why don't you heed them?


Oh, I do. On matters of real data and reseach. That's why you see a
link to Murray Straus early in the post.

We've debated him for some time, and while I've accessed his documents
many times, I doubt many others here have -- from the source.

And you?

I'm not your librarian, Michael. Learn to use google or other search
tools. It's really not hard.

If I have a claim related to data and research, a specific claim, trust
me, I'll either say it's not available on line, or I'll provide a link.
I do that as you know.

Michael©


You are yet another liar to insinuate other than the truth, Michael.
You've been here long enough to know that I don't "lie" about things
that are not issues of safety of life and limb to someone.

You also know that I do in fact provide citations in argument.

You also know that I've not 'demanded' someone produce a source when
there's nothing more than general interest. Only if they make a
supposed data or research backed claim.

Do you enjoy being a liar, Michael?

By the way, would you tell the absolute truth if it might have a
reasonably good chance of putting someone in physical danger? Someone
innocent?

Now weasel or run.

0:-



Deutsches Vaterland Über alles in der Welt
Freiheit für Deutschland !


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Old October 12th 06, 12:41 AM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services
Michael©
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"0:-" wrote in
ups.com:


Michael© wrote:
"0:-" wrote in
ups.com:

... issue of spanking, Corporal Punishment, abuse, and related
topics, and are you really interested in the research?

If so you might want to follow the sources I use, such as Strauss,
more directly:

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/

You too can fill your file cabinets, and office library shelves with
the research, reports, instruments and tools for social science
analysis.

Of course, Doan will call you a liar, but of course, coming from him,
a noted pathological liar, that's a plus. 0;-]

I participate with other researchers in many professional groups on
line. Some academic in nature.


LOL Sure you do. What groups can you point the readers here to?


I don't chose to. I gave them a lead. If they can't even google then
there's little likelihood they would make good use of information they
gleaned. Are YOU having trouble finding professional academic research
groups and individuals?

I correspond with them a lot.


I'm having trouble finding these groups that you post to that you claim
are professional or academic.

Hence:

Author: "0:-"
First Seen: 1/16/2006
Last Seen: 10/8/2006
Aliases: Other authors use this e-mail with different aliases. Select a
different author:

"0;-"
"Kane"
kane
Pohaku Kane

"0:-"


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I see you initiate posts in several groups, none professional or academic,
unless you are not using one of your aliases. Then you would be using a
sock, something you claim you don't do yet freely accuse others of doing.
Are you morally and ethically lying, Kane?



You are not barred from participating, though if you aren't a
bonifide researcher you may not be given some of the materials...but
at least, where you can get them you will know just who lies, and how
they do it, in these newsgoups.


Since they are not barred from participation, they are most likely
public, either Usenet or elsewhere, share them or should the readers
simply guess?


Guess, of course.

But then, some are intelligent and honest enough to not have to guess.
And you?


See above.



Usually your questions will be answered though. Look for the groups.
Google is your friend.


Just as I thought, let the readers guess and look for themselves. LOL


Yep.

Are you morally and ethically lying, Kane? I bet you are.


On this issue? Is someone's life or personal safety at risk? If not,
no.


Remember your own words, 'put up or shut up'. Why don't you heed them?


Oh, I do. On matters of real data and reseach. That's why you see a
link to Murray Straus early in the post.

We've debated him for some time, and while I've accessed his documents
many times, I doubt many others here have -- from the source.

And you?

I'm not your librarian, Michael. Learn to use google or other search
tools. It's really not hard.


I use tools quite well that are at my disposal, seems something is amiss
in your claim though. See above.


If I have a claim related to data and research, a specific claim, trust
me, I'll either say it's not available on line, or I'll provide a link.
I do that as you know.

Michael©


You are yet another liar to insinuate other than the truth, Michael.
You've been here long enough to know that I don't "lie" about things
that are not issues of safety of life and limb to someone.


A liar is a liar. Color it however you wish in your moral and ethical way.


You also know that I do in fact provide citations in argument.


Yes you generally do, Kane.


You also know that I've not 'demanded' someone produce a source when
there's nothing more than general interest. Only if they make a
supposed data or research backed claim.

Do you enjoy being a liar, Michael?


I'm not a liar, so how would I enjoy being something I'm not?


By the way, would you tell the absolute truth if it might have a
reasonably good chance of putting someone in physical danger? Someone
innocent?


I would either, tell the absolute truth and live with the consequences or
refrain from saying anything and live with the consequences of remaining
silent. I would not lie as you seem so easily able to justify doing.


Now weasel or run.


I've done neither.


0:-



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Freiheit für Deutschland !






--
Michael©

Deutsches Vaterland Über alles in der Welt
Freiheit für Deutschland !
  #5  
Old October 12th 06, 08:52 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents
Doan
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On 11 Oct 2006, 0:- wrote:

... issue of spanking, Corporal Punishment, abuse, and related topics,
and are you really interested in the research?

If so you might want to follow the sources I use, such as Strauss, more
directly:

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/

You too can fill your file cabinets, and office library shelves with
the research, reports, instruments and tools for social science
analysis.

And you too can be published! ;-)

Doan


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Old October 12th 06, 10:10 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services
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Michael© wrote:
"0:-" wrote in
ups.com:



Michael©

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  #7  
Old October 17th 06, 06:44 AM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services
Doan
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Default Do you take seriously the ...

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006, Michael© wrote:

"0:-" wrote in
ups.com:

... issue of spanking, Corporal Punishment, abuse, and related topics,
and are you really interested in the research?

If so you might want to follow the sources I use, such as Strauss, more
directly:

http://pubpages.unh.edu/~mas2/

You too can fill your file cabinets, and office library shelves with
the research, reports, instruments and tools for social science
analysis.

Of course, Doan will call you a liar, but of course, coming from him, a
noted pathological liar, that's a plus. 0;-]

I participate with other researchers in many professional groups on
line. Some academic in nature.


LOL Sure you do. What groups can you point the readers here to?


You are not barred from participating, though if you aren't a bonifide
researcher you may not be given some of the materials...but at least,
where you can get them you will know just who lies, and how they do it,
in these newsgoups.


Since they are not barred from participation, they are most likely public,
either Usenet or elsewhere, share them or should the readers simply guess?


Usually your questions will be answered though. Look for the groups.
Google is your friend.


Just as I thought, let the readers guess and look for themselves. LOL

Are you morally and ethically lying, Kane? I bet you are.

Remember your own words, 'put up or shut up'. Why don't you heed them?


LOL!

Doan


Kane





--
Michael©

Deutsches Vaterland Über alles in der Welt
Freiheit für Deutschland !


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Old October 17th 06, 10:36 AM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents
Greegor
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Kane wrote
I participate with other researchers in many professional
groups on line. Some academic in nature.


Dangerously funny!

  #9  
Old October 17th 06, 04:41 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents
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Default other researchers professional groups academic


Greegor wrote:
Kane wrote
I participate with other researchers in many professional
groups on line. Some academic in nature.


Dangerously funny!


I'll see if they think so and get back to you.

0:-

  #10  
Old October 17th 06, 06:39 PM posted to alt.parenting.spanking,alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents
Doan
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Posts: 1,380
Default other researchers professional groups academic

On 17 Oct 2006, Greegor wrote:

Kane wrote
I participate with other researchers in many professional
groups on line. Some academic in nature.


Dangerously funny!

Remember what they said about an empty Kane? It often makes lot of
noises!

Doan

 




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