If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Expulsion Notification
Over the weekend, at a neighborhood party, I learned that 4 of DD's classmates had been suspended, and maybe expelled for smoking pot in the boys' room (during the last class period!). If such a thing happened in your kid's school, would you expect some kind of notification from the principal alerting you to what had happened? (This is 7th grade, by the way). DD said it's been the talk of the school, among her classmates. I guess I'd like to have heard something from the administration, not from a parent whose kid happened to mention something. Scott DD 12 and DS 10 |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Expulsion Notification
Scott L wrote: Over the weekend, at a neighborhood party, I learned that 4 of DD's classmates had been suspended, and maybe expelled for smoking pot in the boys' room (during the last class period!). If such a thing happened in your kid's school, would you expect some kind of notification from the principal alerting you to what had happened? (This is 7th grade, by the way). Short answer.... no. This incident does not pose any sort of threat for my child, which would be my threshold for feeling entitled to be "in the know." In my mind it's between the school, the students and their parents. I think you have to think about stuff like this from the point of view of the other parents/kids. If your child made this mistake, would you want an official notice going around about the incident? Even without names, as you say it becomes the talk of the school and those names get out. It's also a law enforcement issue if they have police in the middle schools where you live (we do). That raises all of the juvenile justice rules about confidentiality. And, from the school's point of view, any sort of official notice invites second-guessing regarding the school's disciplinary steps, and probably makes it harder to give kids a second chance if they feel it's warranted. This type of incident could be all over the map -- could be the time they *finally* caught a group that has been troublesome for a long time, or could be a group of normally well-behaved kids who got a hold of a single joint and made a spectacularly bad choice. The school needs some leeway in handling these situations IMO, and the fewer parents involved, the better. -Dawn Mom to a 7th grader, too ;-) |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Expulsion Notification
In article ,
Scott L wrote: Over the weekend, at a neighborhood party, I learned that 4 of DD's classmates had been suspended, and maybe expelled for smoking pot in the boys' room (during the last class period!). If such a thing happened in your kid's school, would you expect some kind of notification from the principal alerting you to what had happened? (This is 7th grade, by the way). DD said it's been the talk of the school, among her classmates. I guess I'd like to have heard something from the administration, not from a parent whose kid happened to mention something. Scott DD 12 and DS 10 No, I wouldn't expect notification. Why would I? What information do you think you should have that would make a difference to anything you would do with your own child? I don't expect the school to notify me every time some other student does something that results in suspension or even expulsion: that is a private matter between that student, his or her parents or guardians, and the school, and none of anyone else's business. If my child had been directly involved in the incident, I might expect something -- but even then, by the time they are 12, if they are only a witness to something, I wouldn't expect the school to contact me unless they had been obviously traumatized. (I WOULD expect the school to cooperate and share such information as they could without compromising the other student's rights if I called because my child came home upset.) I would expect to be told of what the school's policies are regarding drugs and alcohol, and regarding discipline. If something became an ongoing problem, I would expect the school to be keeping in touch with parents. However, I can't imagine any school notifying all the parents every time an incident like this takes place. Chances are excellent, this is NOT the first time a 7th grader has been caught with drugs at this school (unless the school is brand new), and you are going to hear more and more of this sort of thing as your kids get older: drugs, sex, tobacco, alcohol -- they all exist all over, and schools have to deal with them. In the years my kids were in school, there were VERY few times parents were notified of something; I can only recall two, and they were for things FAR more challenging than some kids caught with pot in the bathroom. One involved a car/pedestrian injury in front of the school (a student was hurt badly when a driver ran a red light), and the other involved an honest-to-god police chase right through the high school campus. In the second case, there was plenty of press about what happened, so the school sent home a letter confirming the facts, explaining that no students were involved in ANYTHING, and reiterating what their policies and procedures were. -- Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Expulsion Notification
In article , Scott L says...
Over the weekend, at a neighborhood party, I learned that 4 of DD's classmates had been suspended, and maybe expelled for smoking pot in the boys' room (during the last class period!). If such a thing happened in your kid's school, would you expect some kind of notification from the principal alerting you to what had happened? (This is 7th grade, by the way). DD said it's been the talk of the school, among her classmates. I guess I'd like to have heard something from the administration, not from a parent whose kid happened to mention something. Kids are expelled or suspended for any number of reasons, none of the ones I've learned of via the grapevine would have been of benefit neither to the community nor to the child if the reasons were broadcast. I would expect a policy which respected privacy, while leaving open the possibility of notification if there were an issue of public health, or something like that, involved. Notification only if the community as a whole needed to know about it, and only what the community as a whole needed to know about it specifically. I wouldn't put the pot incident in the latter category. There would be nothing new to be learned from that, is there. My school district did send a notice to parents about MyPlace and some problems observed with it. However it didn't, and needn't have, described the particular incident that preciptated the concern. That would, to me, be a better model of how a school district should handle such things. But I wouldn't expect a general announcement about expulsions. Banty -- |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Expulsion Notification
I wouldn't expect to hear anything from the administration on disciplinary actions that did not involve my kid. Think about it, if your child, in a rare lapse of judgement, did something spectactularly stupid, would you want the administration broadcasting it to everyone, or would you prefer they take care of it between you, them, and your child? |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Expulsion Notification
Cathy Kearns wrote:
I wouldn't expect to hear anything from the administration on disciplinary actions that did not involve my kid. Think about it, if your child, in a rare lapse of judgement, did something spectactularly stupid, would you want the administration broadcasting it to everyone, or would you prefer they take care of it between you, them, and your child? I suppose it depends on the legality of it, or on whether it endangers others. I think my kids know, though, how fast the grapevine works in this town. There are so few secrets. Thanks for your responses. As I noted in an email to one, part of my reaction is tied to general frustration with the new administrators at DD's school. There was a *big* staff turnover last Summer. It's not been a smooth transition. Don't even get me started on DS's principal. Scott DD 12 and DS 10 |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Expulsion Notification
Scott L wrote: Over the weekend, at a neighborhood party, I learned that 4 of DD's classmates had been suspended, and maybe expelled for smoking pot in the boys' room (during the last class period!). If such a thing happened in your kid's school, would you expect some kind of notification from the principal alerting you to what had happened? I wouldn't expect any kind of notification, as others say this is matter between the students involved, their parents, and the administration. When we have had similar type incidents in MS/HS there has sometimes been a generic letter mailed home restating school policy about some behavior. We also will sometimes get a note about incidents that occurred near school (suspicious car stopping at a bus stop, police activity that did not include students but was on school grounds, etc.) These are either "alerts" or "informational." I've noticed as my kids move from daycare to preschool to elementary to MS and now to HS, the amount of information I have gets less and less and the kids are less and less willing to share. At every transition I have to remind myself of this new stage and readjust my expectations. Chris Chris |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Expulsion Notification
On Mon, 22 May 2006 09:26:07 EDT, Scott L
wrote: Over the weekend, at a neighborhood party, I learned that 4 of DD's classmates had been suspended, and maybe expelled for smoking pot in the boys' room (during the last class period!). If such a thing happened in your kid's school, would you expect some kind of notification from the principal alerting you to what had happened? (This is 7th grade, by the way). DD said it's been the talk of the school, among her classmates. I guess I'd like to have heard something from the administration, not from a parent whose kid happened to mention something. In the school district I work in, it is not allowed to tell other parents about any disciplinary actions taken against a child who is not theirs. It is a privacy and legal rights concern. OTOH, would you want an announcement to go out from admin to all parents in the school if your daughter had been caught smoking pot and was being suspended or expelled? Would you feel that was fair? I think often the school is happy that the grapevine gets the word out to those who might want to be more careful in what they do, who they hang out with or who they let their children hang out with, but they can't do it themselves. -- Paula "Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Expulsion Notification
"Scott L" wrote in message ... Over the weekend, at a neighborhood party, I learned that 4 of DD's classmates had been suspended, and maybe expelled for smoking pot in the boys' room (during the last class period!). If such a thing happened in your kid's school, would you expect some kind of notification from the principal alerting you to what had happened? (This is 7th grade, by the way). DD said it's been the talk of the school, among her classmates. I guess I'd like to have heard something from the administration, not from a parent whose kid happened to mention something. Scott DD 12 and DS 10 No, I would not expect the school to send out notifications. I would expect that the school would send out notices if there was an outbreak of serious illness or safety issues. However, I would not expect to school to send out a notice that a seventh grader was smoking pot. Some schools are required to publish summary statistics about things like suspensions,vandalism and assaults, however. All NYC schools do this. Jeff |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Expulsion Notification
yes you would like to be notified. i would to. but i wouldnt expect to.
sadly this kind of behaviour goes on all to often and much worse happens in school too. where do they draw the line between respecting peoples privacy and informing parents what is really going on in our childrens schools |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
| Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine | Kane | Spanking | 62 | February 20th 05 01:50 AM |
I'm In Favor Of Zero Tolerance ... But ... | BroJack | Solutions | 42 | December 27th 03 02:19 AM |
| Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine | Kane | General | 55 | October 22nd 03 03:04 AM |
| | Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine | Kane | Spanking | 0 | October 18th 03 06:17 PM |
Teen faces expulsion and felony for loaning girlfriend medicine | billy f | Spanking | 2 | October 12th 03 04:22 AM |