CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILYBASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA/CIA WIRETAPINGPROGRAM....

Bob LeChevalier wrote:
fx wrote:
Bob LeChevalier wrote:
fx wrote:
The Destruction of Hundreds of Innocent Families by Child Protective
Services, Nobody seems to care that happy children are being
stolen from
good parents by CPS at a greater rate
I doubt that there are even a trivial number of cases of "happy
children" taken from "good parents".
700 to 1?

One hero, Montel Williams,

Never heard of him. He certainly is not a hero to me. Wikipedia says
that he is a talk-show host. Talk-show hosts are hardly expert in
child abuse (nor necessarily anything else other than entertaining an
audience).

recently aired “For the Love of a Child” for
the second time. He stated that for the one child that is actually
being
abused, CPS is destroying 700 families in the process.

Do you believe everything you hear someone say? If so, I've a bridge
to sell you.
NO, I careful research everything.


Arizona Senate Bill 1430 ...
It was defeated by one vote!

Sounds like the elected representatives of "we the people" don't buy
your arguments.

some which are currently under investigation for conflict of interest
they own stock in companies that supplies services to CPS/DES..

NBC Nightly News recently interviewed another hero,

You have a bad case of hero worship.
Not me!
http://www.hidesertstar.com/articles...l/opinion2.txt


former Maine (CPS)
Supervisor Pat Moore. She was concerned about two children being
adopted
out to a known felon

How many children are born to "known felon"s and not taken away at
birth?


How many children are born to mothers who are not felons and have no
criminal history, only to have their children taken at birth (stolen)
and sold to the highest bidder to the State because they have a CPS
record? ( dirty dishes, clothing on the floor, too a small house.)
Remember! we are not talking about criminals or child abusers.

What specifically was the felony? Had the sentence been served? In
case you haven't realized it, a felon who has served his time has no
further debt to society.

and was told to be quiet and let the adoption go through.
She refused, was fired,

That happens to people who don't follow the orders of their
supervisors. Only of they told her to do something illegal does she
have much of a case.

is suing the department and screaming children are not “quotas!”

Screaming won't win her support.

of course it will..


June 8, 2006, Clayton Tribune “DFCS probe: Violations Rampant” by Blake
Spurney, “Stories of overzealous Department of Family and Children
Services employees prowling for referrals and using people's
children as
tools of extortion were true, according to the Georgia Department of
Human Resources investigative report.” It states: caseworkers receive
retaliation and suspension for reporting questionable practices to the
state - evidence being shredded; deputies sent to pick up children from
schools with no directives and no court orders; former sheriff's DFCS
liaison bragging she broke the record by picking up 28 to 38 children;
proof (CPS) makes case plans virtually impossible to complete; women's
shelters and even 911 emergency calls used to “process” more children
into the system; directors and supervisors make false statements to
investigators; the office was guilty of numerous conflicts of interest
that violated DHR's policy for Standards of Conduct and Ethics in
Government; drug testing contractor conflicts and manipulation
criticized by clients, lawyers and law enforcement (federal fraud?);
monies earmarked for “Prevent Unnecessary Placement” funds (typically
used to help people clean or repair their homes) being used to help pay
for excessive drug screening. Attorney Brian Rickman stated, “This is
DFCS' investigation Š this is what they found, and it appears to verify
virtually all of the allegations.”

I doubt that any newspaper ever published such poorly-written
gobblety-gook with endless phrases and clauses separated by
semicolons.

DFCS probe: Violations rampant
By Blake Spurney

http://www.theclaytontribune.com/art...ews/news03.txt

Your Definitely on a Roll, Bob

The overly used excuse that CPS is “short staffed, over burdened with
heavy caseloads, and doesn't have enough funding” is an affront to
human
dignity and decency.

So? Maybe we need to hike taxes in order to pay for the job to be
done better.

Maybe we should just Stop CPS from destroying Good families [ please
note the word GOOD! families as opposed to Bad families.]
and selling their children into Slavery! then forcing what's left of
their family into bankruptcie..
Over a kitchen sink with a few dirty Dishes..


Richard Wexler, executive director of the National Coalition of Child
Protection Reform,

Now there is an unbiased observer. Not!

Snip
Richard Wexler is, indeed, biased. He is biased by his close personal
examination of hundreds of cases. He is biased by his strong belief that
WE, the people, in our rush to save the chilluns, are KILLING them.
He is biased by FACTS. IF you have marginal reading and observation
ability, and you investigate a few of those families who are screaming
that they were falsely accused and stripped of their children, you will
discover at LEAST 50% of those children WERE stolen, not saved, and that
at least 50% of those children "suffered" mild neglect in their own
homes,easily remedied by HELP, but in FOSTER Care they found REAL Abuse.
Not all abused foster children die. Most of them just grow up with
psychological damage that they cannot overcome, and many grow up with
sexual abuse tucked away in their psyche somewhere, forever terrified of
revealing it. It's a self-sustaining BUSINESS, this child protection
agenda. Those former foster children,when THEIR kids are reported as
neglected, are PRESUMED to be bad parents if they admit having been a
foster child. Evidently Arizona KNOWS that the state can't raise a child
to be a good parent.
Facts that you AZ taxpayers should realize.. DES gets more money every
time they ask. Sure, legislators balk and posture, but in the end, they
give in. DES NEVER has to account for the money, just has to point to
the most recent dead child who SHOULD have been removed, and cry, "We
just don't ahve the money for the staff, we're over worked, METH is
creating more cases, " or whatever the excuse of the day is, and the
public, who never wants to confront this problem, throws a few more
bucks at it, pats themselves on the back that they helped the poor, and
forgets it. Then it's back to business as usual. SAY you checked on the
kids in taht foster home, who cares anyway? They are legal orphans, no
one will miss them if they disappear. They are LOST children, lost in
YOUR state system, destroyed with YOUR money and YOUR apathy.
IT is time that AZ got a grip. Your children are being stolen for MONEY.
There is a huge federal payment in the theft and termination of rights,
and another large one in the adoptions.
Arizona has one of the worst track records in the country for HONESTLY
protecting endangered kids. WHY? because the investigators have no clue
HOW to investigate, and the machinery is so clogged with messy house
cases, in cases where HELP was needed, destruction came from your tax
dollar instead. When a truly abused child is reported, its a crap shoot.
Regardless of the needs of the child and family, the fact is that DES
will probably miss the mark. That could be made right,if only some
EDUCATED public opinions would start to emerge.
Foster care review? You mean the people who think that social workers
are always right? That they never lie, so their reports are reliable?
Foster care review is only as valid as the information given to review.
Same for judicial determinations. Sadly, with the dregs being appointed
for attorneys, the court and the foster care review board RARELY hear
the facts. You only get the justice you can afford to PAY for. These
officials don't get the whole story, they only the talking points.
You have to talk to the FAMILY to get the real picture. And no, they are
NOT all perfect. But compared to being raped and shuffled from one home
to the next, where NO one really cares, living in poverty isn't so bad.
Maybe we might spend a few bucks to HELP them instead of destroying what
good they have in their lives. No one ever wants to hear THE FAMILIES,
they just want to hang onto their prejudices and sleep well. IF you
really looked closer, you would lose some sleep... trust me.
Wexler is 100% right. And it will STAY that way until the court of
public opinion wakes up. That won't happen til some Senator's grandchild
is taken into DES custody.
I can't believe a population so completely under siege is so totally
unaware of it.Snip

Sorry about the Snip Bob
it's from By Christine K. of (COFRAI)
I just had to cut and paste it.

supported Arizona's bill, stating “Children suffer
emotionally if the tougher conditions for burden of proof aren't met.
The risk is tearing the family apart. Before you do something that
risky
to a child, you better be sure that that home is so bad they would be
better off in a foster home.”

People now fear calling 911;

They do? Only if they've done something wrong. I wouldn't be afraid
to.

isn't it amazing that in 90 percent of the cases where people lose
their children to CPS, No criminal charges are ever filed, not one!


taking their child to the doctor;

Likewise.

going into a shelter;

If one needs to go into a shelter, then it is already questionable
whether one is capable of taking care of a child.

So we finally being POOR a crime?

calling authorities when their spouse is abusing their child.

What are they afraid of? That the government might protect the child
from the spouse by removing it from the abusive home? A parent who
would not call authorities in such a situation should not be a parent.


Most of the children in foster care right now, were removed from their
home for ( Minor neglect) ( if left in a messy home they might get Sick.)

Instead of physical abuse, or do you consider a few dishes in the
kitchen sink or too many socks on the children's bedroom floor to be
dangerous?

WHOLE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED FOR LESS...

CPS must be held accountable for the millions of shattered lives!

Of people who protect their spouses from child abuse charges? Let
them be accountable for shattering more such lives.

I agree!, but we are not talking about the ones being abused
we are talking about those families destroyed for ( Minor neglect)
No criminal charges remember?

“Confidentiality” or secret agreements appear to be the government's
excuse for its continued impotence in protecting America's liberty
interests. FYI: CPS is under the auspices of Homeland Security!

CPS is a state level agency. Homeland Security is a national cabinet
department.

We must reflect upon how few protections we the people still have

The same ones that we had when the Bill of Rights were passed, only
now the states are not allowed to violate them.

and decide what we must do to re-establish due process

Due process seems to be what you are trying to eliminate.

in this “land of the free, home of the brave.”

Honor supercedes loyalty.

Are you arguing for treason?

Were not the ones using the Constitution of the United States as
Toilet Paper.

CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES is, and if you take the time to research it
you will find most of our politicians are technically guilty of "Treason
against United States" by knowingly allowing CPS to violate the
Constitutionally Guaranteed Freedoms and Civil rights of thousands of
Americans most of who have never been charged with a crime of any kind
or ever will be...


Where are the people of valor?

They are standing up against your nonsense.

Wrong, they are standing up against a 30-year-old mistaken that needs to
be fixed, and badly SO!...

CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA/CIA
WIRETAPING PROGRAM.

And you know how many civil rights are violated daily by the NSA/CIA
using what clearance?

The NSA recently told Congress it may have been as many as 5000 people
who had their Civil rights violated, which makes them amateurs compared
to CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES...

BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR
CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.")

Against your ilk.

THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEIR "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN
THE NEXT ELECTION...

I will also vote accordingly if they are child unfriendly, and
abusive-parent friendly.

lojbab

Nobody here is abusive parent friendly! Bob.
All children have all right to be safe and
that includes from over zealous States using them as a source of
Federal revenue... basically Your Children [FOR SALE]

P.S. don't take my word for it Bob or anyone's, researcher it for
yourself...

CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NSA/CIA
WIRETAPING PROGRAM....

BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEIR
"FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...