Accused Teen Said to Keep Enemies List

Little Ms. Moonshine apparently is trying to turn this into a debate
about the relative merits of children growing up in fatherless v.
motherless families.

That, of course, is not the point.

The point is that the overall research information is crystal clear.
Children growing up in two-parent families do far better than children
who grow up in families where one parent is missing.

So, instead of doing everything we can to facilitate the breakup of
families (pretty much the present policy in the U.S.), we should be
trying to preserve two-parent families.

Mothers who themselves created single parent families SHOULD be the
focus of criticism. These women have inflicted serious damage on their
children, and it is very likely that they are sponging off the fathers
of their children. Unfortunately, in the present climate of opinion
such women are sheltered from well-deserved criticism by feminist
political correctness, which has succeeded in pulling the wool over most
people's eyes by persuading them that men are to blame for most family
and social problems. The truth is otherwise, and the situation will not
be fixed until there is more general recognition of the role of mothers
in creating the present problems.

Chris wrote:

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
...
If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant. Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't believe this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids' internalize it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But it has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single parent homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers 'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.





On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:54:21 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Teen-Plot.html

The father, Ron Lovett, has raised his sons alone since his wife died
nearly
10
years ago

"Chris" wrote in message
newsrOOa.124729$MJ5.36547@fed1read03...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
...
If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant. Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't believe this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids' internalize it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But it has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single parent homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers 'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.

You can bet the ranch she ain't one of them







On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:54:21 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Teen-Plot.html

The father, Ron Lovett, has raised his sons alone since his wife died
nearly
10
years ago

"Mel Gamble" wrote in message
...
You give nasty WAY too much credit, Chris.

It's called a handicap advantage.


Mel Gamble

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
...
If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant. Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't believe
this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids' internalize it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But it has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single parent
homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers 'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.





On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:54:21 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Teen-Plot.html

The father, Ron Lovett, has raised his sons alone since his wife
died
nearly
10
years ago

"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
newsrOOa.124729$MJ5.36547@fed1read03...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
...
If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant. Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't believe
this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids' internalize it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But it
has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single parent
homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers
'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.

You can bet the ranch she ain't one of them

The saddest part about wrecking children is that they COULD have turned out
well; but NO....... single mama (and daddy on RARE occasions)had to screw
them up!








On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:54:21 -0500, "Moon Shyne"
wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/nati...Teen-Plot.html

The father, Ron Lovett, has raised his sons alone since his wife
died
nearly
10
years ago

Chris wrote in message
news:ZQWOa.69777$1e.20206@fed1read04...

"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
newsrOOa.124729$MJ5.36547@fed1read03...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
...
If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant.
Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't believe
this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids' internalize
it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But it
has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single parent
homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers
'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would
probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.

You can bet the ranch she ain't one of them

The saddest part about wrecking children is that they COULD have turned
out
well; but NO....... single mama (and daddy on RARE occasions)had to
screw
them up!

Well honey, it took both my parents to screw me up. lol

"Tiffany" wrote in message
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Chris wrote in message
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"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
newsrOOa.124729$MJ5.36547@fed1read03...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
...
If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant.
Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't
believe
this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic
psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and pent up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be
pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids'
internalize
it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows? But
it
has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single parent
homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single mothers
'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would
probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.

You can bet the ranch she ain't one of them

The saddest part about wrecking children is that they COULD have turned
out
well; but NO....... single mama (and daddy on RARE occasions)had to
screw
them up!

Well honey, it took both my parents to screw me up. lol

There you go; a perfect example of the exception to the rule.

"Kenneth S." wrote in message
...
I'm not much concerned with convincing YOU about anything, Miz
Moonshine. Since the days when you used to post under the name
Anastasia, you have demonstrated that your views are of little account.
(And it speaks volumes that, for your Internet names, your first choice
was someone who was convincingly demonstrated to be a fraud, and your
second was an alcoholic beverage that rots the brains of people in the
backwoods).

Kenneth you are being too kind. The regulars here know "MoonShyne" means
Amy is exposing her bare buttocks into the face of the former Ms. Shyne who
posts here and has called Amy on the fabricated, delusional postings and her
propensity to display aggressive PAS characteristics.

I'm just wondering how Moonie's imaginary second husband is dealing with all
of her man hating rhetoric.

Bob Whiteside wrote:

"Kenneth S." wrote in message
...
I'm not much concerned with convincing YOU about anything, Miz
Moonshine. Since the days when you used to post under the name
Anastasia, you have demonstrated that your views are of little account.
(And it speaks volumes that, for your Internet names, your first choice
was someone who was convincingly demonstrated to be a fraud, and your
second was an alcoholic beverage that rots the brains of people in the
backwoods).

Kenneth you are being too kind. The regulars here know "MoonShyne" means
Amy is exposing her bare buttocks into the face of the former Ms. Shyne who
posts here and has called Amy on the fabricated, delusional postings and her
propensity to display aggressive PAS characteristics.

I'm just wondering how Moonie's imaginary second husband is dealing with all
of her man hating rhetoric.


You're right, Bob. Being too kind has always been a problem for me.

But the thought of Miz Moonshine's bare buttocks is too much even for
kind old me to stomach. All I can do is avert my eyes from such a
hideous sight.

"Tiffany" wrote in message
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Chris wrote in message news:go0Pa.55$OP.9@fed1read04...

"Tiffany" wrote in message
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Chris wrote in message
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"Paul Fritz" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote in message
newsrOOa.124729$MJ5.36547@fed1read03...

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...

"dfsdfasdf" wrote in message
...
If someone takes this angle about this they are ignorant.
Columbine
kids had both parents, what was the excuse there? I don't
believe
this
has anything to do with psychosis or even systematic
psychological
abuse by classmates, which can cause mental problems and
pent
up
anger. We just don't know what motivates certain kids to be
pushed
over the edge from being picked on, while other kids'
internalize
it
and grow up with low self-esteem and complexes. Who knows?
But
it
has
nothing to do with single parent homes, especially single
parent
homes
where the father is the single parent.

Then perhaps we'll quit hearing so much about how single
mothers
'ruin'
children.

The statistics speak for themselves.

Those of us mothers raising good, considerate children would
probably
appreciate it.

There's a few of you.

You can bet the ranch she ain't one of them

The saddest part about wrecking children is that they COULD have
turned
out
well; but NO....... single mama (and daddy on RARE occasions)had
to
screw
them up!

Well honey, it took both my parents to screw me up. lol

There you go; a perfect example of the exception to the rule.




lol....actually if you think about it, for all the women and men who are
currently screwing up their children, they were brought up in a generation
where divorce rates were very low. So I would not be the exception, now
would I?

The exception is TWO parents screwing up the kid; or didn't you catch that?

"Kenneth S." wrote in message ...
Bob Whiteside wrote:

"Kenneth S." wrote in message
...
I'm not much concerned with convincing YOU about anything, Miz
Moonshine. Since the days when you used to post under the name
Anastasia, you have demonstrated that your views are of little account.
(And it speaks volumes that, for your Internet names, your first choice
was someone who was convincingly demonstrated to be a fraud, and your
second was an alcoholic beverage that rots the brains of people in the
backwoods).

Kenneth you are being too kind. The regulars here know "MoonShyne" means
Amy is exposing her bare buttocks into the face of the former Ms. Shyne who
posts here and has called Amy on the fabricated, delusional postings and her
propensity to display aggressive PAS characteristics.

I'm just wondering how Moonie's imaginary second husband is dealing with all
of her man hating rhetoric.


You're right, Bob. Being too kind has always been a problem for me.

But the thought of Miz Moonshine's bare buttocks is too much even for
kind old me to stomach. All I can do is avert my eyes from such a
hideous sight.

And yet more flaming from the two of you, rather than any actual discussion
about the article.

Not surprising at all...........