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Old July 11th 03, 03:54 PM
Dave
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Joplin man sentenced to prison for failure to pay child support
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=37546
"..too depressed to work was sentenced to a prison term Monday after
testimony showed that he was diagnosed with major depression.."


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Old July 11th 03, 05:49 PM
Freedom
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Default Ill Father sentanced to 1 year in prison for failure to pay CS

Boy oh boy, that is one judge that needs life to teach him lessons of
humanity.

May God bless the father and do what he pleases with that despicable judge.


"Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote in message
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Joplin man sentenced to prison for failure to pay child support
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=37546
"..too depressed to work was sentenced to a prison term Monday after
testimony showed that he was diagnosed with major depression.."




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Old July 11th 03, 06:58 PM
Layne Barlow
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Default Ill Father sentanced to 1 year in prison for failure to pay CS

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:54:25 -0400, "Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote:

Joplin man sentenced to prison for failure to pay child support
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=37546
"..too depressed to work was sentenced to a prison term Monday after
testimony showed that he was diagnosed with major depression.."


The good news is when he's out of prison he can't be charged or tried
again for not paying those arrearages.

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Old July 11th 03, 07:15 PM
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Default Ill Father sentanced to 1 year in prison for failure to pay CS


Dave dave@freedoms-door wrote in message
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Joplin man sentenced to prison for failure to pay child support
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=37546
"..too depressed to work was sentenced to a prison term Monday after
testimony showed that he was diagnosed with major depression.."



So if I don't feed my kid for a few weeks because I am depressed (and a
diagnosis for major depression is VERY easy to come by.) and the state takes
my kid away, can't I just say but hey I was depressed????

though I don't agree with his inprisonment, I don't agree with using
depression as a reason to not work.


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Old July 12th 03, 03:05 AM
Pete
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Default Ill Father sentanced to 1 year in prison for failure to pay CS

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:15:34 -0400, "Tiffany"
wrote:


Dave dave@freedoms-door wrote in message
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Joplin man sentenced to prison for failure to pay child support
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=37546
"..too depressed to work was sentenced to a prison term Monday after
testimony showed that he was diagnosed with major depression.."



So if I don't feed my kid for a few weeks because I am depressed (and a
diagnosis for major depression is VERY easy to come by.) and the state takes
my kid away, can't I just say but hey I was depressed????

though I don't agree with his inprisonment, I don't agree with using
depression as a reason to not work.


Well I sure wish you'd talk to my daughter's mother then. She has used
depression as an excuse not to work for the past 16 years or so. No,
she's much happier living off SSI and child support.
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Old July 12th 03, 03:50 AM
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Default Ill Father sentanced to 1 year in prison for failure to pay CS


Leslie wrote in message
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"Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote in message

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Joplin man sentenced to prison for failure to pay child support
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=37546
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As a general rule, I wonder if
most people stop to think how hard it will be to support a child
before they have any, much less five.


Doesn't this seem to be the true agenda?










"Two years ago, his ex-wife was awarded an increase in the support
that more than doubled his payments, increasing them from $200 to
$470. The increase was granted to help pay medical expenses when
Buerge's daughter was being treated for cancer."

Anyone that has dealt with the finacial devestation the comes with
cancer treatment, even WITH insurance can understand the need to
expect the other parent to help with those expenses.

"At the sentencing hearing Monday, Buerge told the judge that he paid
support for his daughter from 1988 until the increase in 2001, but
that another court had granted the increase without Buerge being
notified that a hearing was being held to consider the increase."

It would be very interesting to know the circumstances behind him not
being notified. Normally if a NCP is paying child support through a
child support agency they are strongly advised to keep said agency
informed of their current address in case the NCP needs to be notified
for some reason. The NCP is also strongly advised and usually court
ordered to keep the CP advised of their current address.


"But the prosecution contended that Buerge stopped paying even the
former amount of $50 a week after the increase was awarded.
Buerge contended that he was unable to pay because he was
self-employed in commercial lawn mowing and his mowing equipment had
been stolen."

Gee, what a streak of bad luck, or an uncanny coincidence. This guy
just so happens to get an increase in child support ordered, and his
commercial lawn mowing equipment was stolen, leaving him completely
able to work. I wonder if he ever considered looking for another job?

"A psychologist testified Monday that Buerge's two years of
unemployment and failure to take care of his responsibility to pay
child support was the result of a mental illness - major depression
that was brought on by his daughter's diagnosis with cancer.

Buerge's condition was so severe that he is unable to hold a job
unless he receives mental-health treatment, the psychologist
testified."

Hmmm... he had been behind on child support for two years. It seems
he didn't have a problem continuing to work and pay the $200. It
wasn't until he was also asked to contribute more to his childs
medical care that the depression rendered him unable to work...

"But the prosecution contended that if Buerge was capable of
completing the written mental-health tests and undergoing therapy, he
was capable of trying to find a job."

I agree. If this man was so willing to get treatment so that he could
go back to work, why didn't he think about getting treatment sometime
during the two year period? Why was it that the though of getting
treatment and finding a job only occurred to him when he was facing a
jail sentence???

"Additionally, Buerge admitted to abusing methamphetamine. The
psychologist described Buerge's drug abuse as a form of
self-medicating to alleviate symptoms of the depression.

The judge, though, questioned why the doctor could describe the drug
abuse as self-medicating when a background investigation revealed that
Buerge had engaged in drug use before the depression started."

OK, this takes the cake. This guy obviously has money to get illegal
drugs, yet he can't contribute any support to his daughter being
treated for cancer?

What a victim of the cruel, evil child support system he is.



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Old July 12th 03, 04:35 AM
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Default Ill Father sentanced to 1 year in prison for failure to pay CS

Use that reasoning in denying some welfare **** a check every month.
"Tiffany" wrote in message
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Dave dave@freedoms-door wrote in message
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Joplin man sentenced to prison for failure to pay child support
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=37546
"..too depressed to work was sentenced to a prison term Monday after
testimony showed that he was diagnosed with major depression.."



So if I don't feed my kid for a few weeks because I am depressed (and a
diagnosis for major depression is VERY easy to come by.) and the state

takes
my kid away, can't I just say but hey I was depressed????

though I don't agree with his inprisonment, I don't agree with using
depression as a reason to not work.




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Old July 12th 03, 05:52 AM
Batch File
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Default Ill Father sentanced to 1 year in prison for failure to pay CS

He isn't going to be charged with failure to pay the same arrears, he will
be charged with failure to pay the arrears that accured while he was in jail
or afterwords. Violation of parole or probation have noting whatsoever to do
with double Jeopardy.


"Layne Barlow" wrote in message
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Oh, it's true. It's called double or former jeopardy. Look it up in
your Constitution.

Layne


On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 03:35:00 GMT, "Batch File" wrote:

Not true. If he continues to be unable to pay, he will be jailed again.
Also, because probation or parole are a part of any conviction, he could
receive even more time.

"Layne Barlow" wrote in message
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:54:25 -0400, "Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote:

Joplin man sentenced to prison for failure to pay child support
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=37546
"..too depressed to work was sentenced to a prison term Monday after
testimony showed that he was diagnosed with major depression.."


The good news is when he's out of prison he can't be charged or tried
again for not paying those arrearages.






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Old July 12th 03, 06:15 AM
Batch File
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Default Ill Father sentanced to 1 year in prison for failure to pay CS

Well, being one step away from this mans situation. I can sypathize.


"Hobbit" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 03:56:06 GMT, "Batch File" wrote:
Yes, the key is "can't afford to pay", not "refusing to pay".
Probation, jail, prison, nothing will change the can't afford to pay
thing. Can't afford means can't afford, what don't these court people
and these prosecutors not understand about not being able to afford to
pay a debt. They are blind idiots, once again makes me sick, sick,
sick. No human being should ever be imprisoned over owing money, no
matter what form the debt takes. It is idiotic and perverse.






"Holcomb said he tries to obtain pleas that result in probation to give
parents who legitimately go through a temporary financial setback or a
mistake in judgment a second chance to take care of their children
appropriately and to be available to their children for visitation."


Why don't we give women a second chance ot get off their lazy asses as
oppose to giving them a free welfare check?

Better yet. Why don't we just jail them like we do poor fathers?

"Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote in message
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Joplin man sentenced to prison for failure to pay child support
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=37546
"..too depressed to work was sentenced to a prison term Monday after
testimony showed that he was diagnosed with major depression.."







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Old July 12th 03, 07:30 AM
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Default Ill Father sentanced to 1 year in prison for failure to pay CS


"Hobbit" wrote in message
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 03:56:06 GMT, "Batch File" wrote:
Yes, the key is "can't afford to pay", not "refusing to pay".
Probation, jail, prison, nothing will change the can't afford to pay
thing. Can't afford means can't afford, what don't these court people
and these prosecutors not understand about not being able to afford to
pay a debt. They are blind idiots, once again makes me sick, sick,
sick. No human being should ever be imprisoned over owing money, no
matter what form the debt takes. It is idiotic and perverse.


The state is counting on friends and family to pitch in and pay it, anything
to get their money back, and just a bit extra, for supporting the mother and
children.
Phil #3







"Holcomb said he tries to obtain pleas that result in probation to give
parents who legitimately go through a temporary financial setback or a
mistake in judgment a second chance to take care of their children
appropriately and to be available to their children for visitation."


Why don't we give women a second chance ot get off their lazy asses as
oppose to giving them a free welfare check?

Better yet. Why don't we just jail them like we do poor fathers?

"Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote in message
...
Joplin man sentenced to prison for failure to pay child support
http://www.joplinglobe.com/story.php?story_id=37546
"..too depressed to work was sentenced to a prison term Monday after
testimony showed that he was diagnosed with major depression.."






 




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