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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 12:06:07 -0400, "Stephanie"
wrote: "Staycalm" wrote in message . au... "-L." wrote in message ups.com... John wrote: Potato chips, the guilt-ridden yet extremely popular convenience snack, is totally verboten in my son's kidergarten class. School officials have said, very explictly, "DO NOT PACK POTATO CHIPS IN LUNCHES." Cheetos are particularly offensive as the same orientation sheet also reads, "DO NOT PACK CHEETOS IN LUNCHES" just a few lines down from the generic chip ban. Why not chips? That just seems stupid. Cheetos I can see because of the mess. But if you are going to ban messy foods, the list is incredibly long. I hate this kind of micromanagement in schools. I don't even support the peanut butter ban. If they are going to ban peanut butter, they might as well ban bees in the school yard. Far more people are allergic to bees. What about other nuts that are made in facilities that process peanuts? Those have just as much potential for causing reaction in many students. The whole thing is just out of hand, IMO. Where do you draw the line? -L. Why not chips? Because they have absolutely no nutritional value whatsoever. High in fat and salt - why would you feed them to your children when they could be eating all the wonderful tasting healthy foods that are around! Liz While I agree that chips are not a great food, it really is not the school's business to tell the parents how to feed their children. And even if it were, simply banning potato chips is not a very effective way of doing so.,= Now that I have actually seen the whole thread, I agree. I can see cheetos or cheese sticks, perhaps on account of the mess factor (that fake orange stuff gets all over your hands and stuff). Or maybe theyre afraid kids will exchange food?? But other than that.......I thought the original thread was abuot bringing snack for the whole class,.. |
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I have three kids, a big pantry and I buy in bulk. I do tend to keep
some convenience foods around for lunches, so the 15 that get produced weekly at our house and taken to school are easy to assemble. Typical stuff that goes into lunches. Fruit, pudding or jello cups. Cereal/granola bars of various kinds. Fruit leathers or gummies of various kinds. Goldfish crackers or crackers and cheese (assorted types out there). Occasionally cookies (as a treat those fancy Mrs. Field's chocolate chip cookies that come individually wrapped). String cheese. Yoghurt tubes. Drink boxes. Almost never chips - its hard enough to get kids to eat reasonable stuff without letting them have chips - which they will eat first and then ignore the rest of their lunch. Sandwiches - made with bagels, soft tacos or wraps, pitas, kaiser buns, and rarely plain old bread. The kids don't like anything smelly or messy. The younger two (7 and 11) rarely eat a whole sandwich - if its on a bagel, I often just give them half of one. Hot lunches - we have all-metal wide mouth thermos jars which are great for putting hot stuff into (in fact, they tend to keep stuff TOO hot, so I have to watch the temperature of what I put in there). The problem with a thermos of anything is that the younger ones don't put the lid back on tightly and you end up with a mess in the lunch box. Fresh fruit, veggies and dip, pieces of cheese. No matter what you pack, be prepared to be dismayed by what they eat and don't eat. Drives me nuts. They beg for stuff and don't eat it. You pack healthy stuff and they trade with their friends for junk. They eat all the desserts and not the sandwich. Etc. Etc. Etc. Mary eatdon't eat |
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Why not chips? Read on....
Acrylamide is in the news today! Dr. Greene has been concerned about acrylamide since 2002 when The World Health Organization convened an emergency expert panel in to evaluate the potential health threats of acrylamide, a known toxic substance possibly created by heating starchy foods to high temperatures. The initial study in Sweden that suggested starches produce acrylamide, conducted early in 2002, was viewed with skepticism. But the formation of acrylamide in this way has now been confirmed by independent studies in England, Norway, Switzerland, Germany, and the United States. The WHO expert panel unanimously concluded that the results of these studies are valid. They also unanimously agreed there is a major concern that the levels of acrylamide found in some potato chips and French fries could cause cancer. The amount of acrylamide varies from brand to brand, and between cooking techniques. The Center for Science in the Public Interest has commissioned testing of levels in some US brands. The acrylamide in a large order of fast food fries was at least 300 times the amount allowed by the EPA in a glass of water. One brand studied contained 600 times the EPA amount. Besides agreeing on their cancer concern, and on the validity of the studies done so far, the panel called for urgent new research to further define the scope of the risk and the extent of the problem. In the meantime, they are urging a balanced diet with lots of fruits and vegetables, while decreasing the amounts of fried foods. They said it is too early to specify which fried foods should be avoided. Based on the evidence currently available, I would go further. In good conscience, I could not recommend that children eat French fries, potato chips, or corn chips until further research is in, or until the brand has been tested and found to have low levels. I recognize that French fries and potato chips are favorite items on kids' menus everywhere, but the benefits just do not justify the risks! I would also like to see labeling on foods to indicate the presence and amount of acrylamide, so that people can make an informed choice about the risks for themselves and for their kids. Or this: http://www.ems.org/cancer_prevention/potato_chips.pdf |
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"MsLiz" wrote in message oups.com... Why not chips? Read on.... Whether or not chips are good for you is not the point. The question is, does a school have the right to dictate to parents what they pack in their child's lunch? I can see banning things like gum that can cause problems for the school. But I don't think the school has a right to dictate based solely on nutritional content. That is, I think every parent has the right to decide what to feed their own children, and the school should not be allowed to intervene unless it will adversely affect the school, or the other students. Bizby |
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bizby40 wrote: "MsLiz" wrote in message oups.com... Why not chips? Read on.... Whether or not chips are good for you is not the point. The question is, does a school have the right to dictate to parents what they pack in their child's lunch? I can see banning things like gum that can cause problems for the school. But I don't think the school has a right to dictate based solely on nutritional content. That is, I think every parent has the right to decide what to feed their own children, and the school should not be allowed to intervene unless it will adversely affect the school, or the other students. Bizby Someone asked what's wrong with chips so I reponded with what I know about them. Many people aren't aware of this issue. A dear friend of mine, a pediatric facial cranial expert, shared the potato chip information with me. He is not a health food fanatic (as I am :-) but he will not allow chips in their household. Are you against schools trying to ban soda machines and candy machines in an effort to do something to curb obesity? Or is it that you don't like the school telling you what your child can bring to school? FYI, my daughter's current school has no restrictions whatsoever (elementary). If I were given a choice between two schools; one that had a fairly long list of restricted foods (the unhealthier choices) and one had no restrictions, I'd definitely choose the restricted foods. |
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MsLiz wrote:
bizby40 wrote: "MsLiz" wrote in message groups.com... Why not chips? Read on.... Whether or not chips are good for you is not the point. The question is, does a school have the right to dictate to parents what they pack in their child's lunch? I can see banning things like gum that can cause problems for the school. But I don't think the school has a right to dictate based solely on nutritional content. That is, I think every parent has the right to decide what to feed their own children, and the school should not be allowed to intervene unless it will adversely affect the school, or the other students. Bizby Someone asked what's wrong with chips so I reponded with what I know about them. Many people aren't aware of this issue. A dear friend of mine, a pediatric facial cranial expert, shared the potato chip information with me. He is not a health food fanatic (as I am :-) but he will not allow chips in their household. People know that chips aren't healthy, as they also know candy isn't good and soda is probably more chemical than natural. Are you against schools trying to ban soda machines and candy machines in an effort to do something to curb obesity? Or is it that you don't like the school telling you what your child can bring to school? FYI, my daughter's current school has no restrictions whatsoever (elementary). I'm against schools making money by stocking vending machines with soda and candy. I haven't found many schools trying to "ban" soda machines - it's not like students can bring their own vending machines to school with them. Jeanne |
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MsLiz wrote: Whether or not chips are good for you is not the point. The question is, does a school have the right to dictate to parents what they pack in their child's lunch? I can see banning things like gum that can cause problems for the school. But I don't think the school has a right to dictate based solely on nutritional content. That is, I think every parent has the right to decide what to feed their own children, and the school should not be allowed to intervene unless it will adversely affect the school, or the other students. Bizby Someone asked what's wrong with chips so I reponded with what I know about them. That wasn't the question. I don't think anyone argues that potato chips are a healty food. Bizby pointed out the real issue - Why is it the school's business what I pack in my child's lunch? If a school told me I couldn't pack chips in my son's lunch because they aren't healthful I'd tell them to go to hell. (Not that I'd choose chips, mind you, just that it is my right to do so if I so choose...) Many people aren't aware of this issue. A dear friend of mine, a pediatric facial cranial expert, shared the potato chip information with me. He is not a health food fanatic (as I am :-) but he will not allow chips in their household. Polymerized acrylamide is inert. I think this is another whacko scare tactic. Are you against schools trying to ban soda machines and candy machines in an effort to do something to curb obesity? That's their choice if they choose to do so - I can send a bag of M&Ms with my kid in his lunch if that's what I want him to eat. Or is it that you don't like the school telling you what your child can bring to school? FYI, my daughter's current school has no restrictions whatsoever (elementary). If I were given a choice between two schools; one that had a fairly long list of restricted foods (the unhealthier choices) and one had no restrictions, I'd definitely choose the restricted foods. Because you like someone else telling you how to live your life or.....what? IMO, that's absurd. -L. |
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"-L." wrote in message oups.com... MsLiz wrote: If I were given a choice between two schools; one that had a fairly long list of restricted foods (the unhealthier choices) and one had no restrictions, I'd definitely choose the restricted foods. Because you like someone else telling you how to live your life or.....what? IMO, that's absurd. Because she likes that she can control what her kids are exposed to while they're in school. She doesn't want her kids exposed to junk food. Junk food is banned. She *chooses* to send her kids to that school. What's it to you? If you could have that choice, you'd choose the other school. |
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"-L." wrote in message
oups.com... If I were given a choice between two schools; one that had a fairly long list of restricted foods (the unhealthier choices) and one had no restrictions, I'd definitely choose the restricted foods. Because you like someone else telling you how to live your life or.....what? IMO, that's absurd. Oh for goodness sake - we live our whole lives being told what to do and how to live your life - by governments, our bosses, heaps of other authorities. Don't kid yourself. Related to the food issue - maybe some people do know better than to include unhealthy things likes chips and sweets and fizzy drinks in their kid's lunches. But many do this every day out of ignorence or lazyness. So what if a school says please don't give them chips in their lunches. My original point was about looking at all the other better for them foods you could include. We all suffer from a lack of imagination when it comes to treats or snacks. I don't mind in the least if someone wants to help me do the better thing for my child's health. I like to think we are all working together for the same thing - healthier children - the healthier adults of the future! Liz |
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