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An interesting (potty-training related) phenomenon
My daughter has been day-trained for about 4 months now, but it looked like
night-training was still a long way off--her morning diapers were always *very* wet. A few weeks ago, however, I decided to switch her from regular diapers at night to pull-ups because the diapers I was using for both her and Vernon were getting a bit snug on her. Well, she didn't like the pull-ups at all. I'm not exactly sure why, although I suspect that it was partly that they didn't hold urine quite as well as the diapers and she felt "wetter" in them when she got up in the morning. In any event, while we were on vacation, she decided she didn't want to wear a "panty diaper" to bed any more. I flatly refused to let her wear any of Vernon's diapers after having spent good money on the pull-ups that fit her. So she said she'd rather wear a panty. And she has been dry at night with one exception ever since (about 10 days now). What I find interesting about this is that I have always been under the impression that night-time dryness is a function of physiology and neurology and that it's not something a child can *choose* to be. It seems, however, that my daughter *has* chosen to be dry at night and is. Comments? -- Be well, Barbara (Julian [6], Aurora [4], and Vernon's [17mo] mom) "Nobody died when Clinton lied." -- freeway sign This week's special at the English Language Butcher Shop: "They walk with an unsteady, shambling gate." -- Article in the San Diego Union Tribune All opinions expressed in this post are well-reasoned and insightful. Needless to say, they are not those of my Internet Service Provider, its other subscribers or lackeys. Anyone who says otherwise is itchin' for a fight. -- with apologies to Michael Feldman |
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Circe wrote:
What I find interesting about this is that I have always been under the impression that night-time dryness is a function of physiology and neurology and that it's not something a child can *choose* to be. It seems, however, that my daughter *has* chosen to be dry at night and is. Comments? I think it is what I'm going to refer to as the "Hunter and Aurora" phenomenon. It works like this *I* will decide. You will not bribe me into deciding. I am not competitive and could care less what every other child I know does. I will do it my way until I see fit to change. This generally means that I will do whatever amounts to the least amount of work for myself. I may decide to do more work, but only when the least amount of work impacts my life so negatively that I can see the scale tip in favor of doing more work. However, if you seem to happy about my decision, I may just put up with my discomfort for a little while longer...just because I can :-) I figure this phenomenon will actually serve them well when they get a little older. Peer pressue will not phase them :-) -- Nikki Mama to Hunter (4) and Luke (2) |
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"Nikki" wrote in message news:3f3a5ec5_3@newsfeed...
Circe wrote: What I find interesting about this is that I have always been under the impression that night-time dryness is a function of physiology and neurology and that it's not something a child can *choose* to be. It seems, however, that my daughter *has* chosen to be dry at night and is. Comments? I think it is what I'm going to refer to as the "Hunter and Aurora" phenomenon. LOL! I'm glad *someone* else out there has a kid like her. *I* will decide. You will not bribe me into deciding. I am not competitive and could care less what every other child I know does. I will do it my way until I see fit to change. This generally means that I will do whatever amounts to the least amount of work for myself. I may decide to do more work, but only when the least amount of work impacts my life so negatively that I can see the scale tip in favor of doing more work. However, if you seem to happy about my decision, I may just put up with my discomfort for a little while longer...just because I can :-) I figure this phenomenon will actually serve them well when they get a little older. Peer pressue will not phase them :-) Oh, yeah! It's a hassle when you can't get them to do what YOU want just to please you, but it's nice to know they probably won't do everything their friends want just to please THEM. -- Be well, Barbara (Julian [6], Aurora [4], and Vernon's [17mo] mom) "Nobody died when Clinton lied." -- freeway sign This week's special at the English Language Butcher Shop: "They walk with an unsteady, shambling gate." -- Article in the San Diego Union Tribune All opinions expressed in this post are well-reasoned and insightful. Needless to say, they are not those of my Internet Service Provider, its other subscribers or lackeys. Anyone who says otherwise is itchin' for a fight. -- with apologies to Michael Feldman |
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An interesting (potty-training related) phenomenon
Circe wrote and I snipped:
My daughter has been day-trained for about 4 months now, but it looked like night-training was still a long way off--her morning diapers were always *very* wet. A few weeks ago, however, So she said she'd rather wear a panty. And she has been dry at night with one exception ever since (about 10 days now). What I find interesting about this is that I have always been under the impression that night-time dryness is a function of physiology and neurology and that it's not something a child can *choose* to be. It seems, however, that my daughter *has* chosen to be dry at night and is. Could it be that she was dry overnight in the diaper, but wet it as she was waking up, stretching, etc.? I wondered about that with my DD. If she was not wetting during the night, but just before she actually got out of bed, it could be her "choice" to use the toilet instead. Make sense? -Patty, mom to Corinne [Mar-98] and Nathan [May-00] and stepmom to Victoria [Apr-90] |
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An interesting (potty-training related) phenomenon
What I find interesting about this is that I have always been under the
impression that night-time dryness is a function of physiology and neurology and that it's not something a child can *choose* to be. It seems, however, that my daughter *has* chosen to be dry at night and is. Comments? My guess is she was actually wetting the diaper upon waking up, first thing in the morning while still drowsy. She was physiologically capable of staying dry during the night, but as long as she had a diaper on, she didn't have to get up and use the potty as soon as she woke up. (Wouldn't *you* stay in bed a little longer if you didn't have to get up to pee? ;-) ) Holly Mom to Camden, 2.5 yrs |
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"Circe" wrote in message news:fCN_a.10722$2g.199@fed1read05...
snip What I find interesting about this is that I have always been under the impression that night-time dryness is a function of physiology and neurology and that it's not something a child can *choose* to be. It seems, however, that my daughter *has* chosen to be dry at night and is. I have heard the same thing too, but my oldest made a similar choice. He had been day trained for about 8 months, but was still waking up very wet every morning. We didn't even try to get him to go dry at night. Well, one night he had a babysitter and told her that he didn't wear diapers to bed anymore. She believed him and put him to bed in his underwear. Imagine our surprise when he woke up the next morning completely dry. He has been dry ever since - not a single accident. Our second son has made the same decision several times and it has never worked. He still soaks everything and he's 5 ½. We figure it will happen eventually. I guess it works for some, but not others. ~ Sher |
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P. G. Chavez wrote:
Could it be that she was dry overnight in the diaper, but wet it as she was waking up, stretching, etc.? I wondered about that with my DD. If she was not wetting during the night, but just before she actually got out of bed, it could be her "choice" to use the toilet instead. I think this might well be it. I check in the middle of the night to have some sense of when they're wetting. They obviously have a choice about wetting in the morning after they wake, but not so much afterwards. Best wishes, Ericka |
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Ericka Kammerer wrote:
Nikki wrote: I think it is what I'm going to refer to as the "Hunter and Aurora" phenomenon. It works like this *I* will decide. You will not bribe me into deciding. I am not competitive and could care less what every other child I know does. I will do it my way until I see fit to change. This generally means that I will do whatever amounts to the least amount of work for myself. I may decide to do more work, but only when the least amount of work impacts my life so negatively that I can see the scale tip in favor of doing more work. However, if you seem to happy about my decision, I may just put up with my discomfort for a little while longer...just because I can :-) I figure this phenomenon will actually serve them well when they get a little older. Peer pressue will not phase them :-) Absolutely. You may refer to this as the "Hunter and Aurora and Adrian" phenomenon--and you're right that peer pressure has little meaning for kids like this. Best wishes, Ericka -------------- Sounds like me, except I never was abusively potty-trained. Everyone on here knows MY stubbornness. With our kids, who were the same, mostly because we DIDN'T abuse or try to control them (so they responded like adults against fascism), we simply asked them what they wanted to do and did that. They got to try diapers till they got a bad rash a few times, that hurt, and then they were more amenable to learning, and then we simply followed what they wanted to try, and they trained themselves. Being able to watch us use the toilet probably helped, as I know few kids get to see what they're supposed to learn that way, and they both were self-trained by about 2 and a few months. They were a little bit physically advanced in their skills, however, so it could take a little longer for most or some others. Abusive potty-training is where you don't ask the child what they want. Potty-learning is where you ask them what they want to try and JUST DO THAT, making suggestions of course, but letting THEM decide everything at each step!! Steve |
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H Schinske wrote:
wrote: Absolutely. You may refer to this as the "Hunter and Aurora and Adrian" phenomenon--and you're right that peer pressure has little meaning for kids like this. Yeah -- but if they personally decide that what their peers are suggesting sounds like fun, then watch out! I know plenty of rampant individualists who've gotten into drug trouble and the like. --Helen ------------- Sure, but they're the first ones to get out of it too, and on their own just because they want to. These are the people who can stop habits almost at will, they keep themselves on such a short leash. They have rigid personal ethics, but usually not yours. Steve |
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