Number of Lies- Childhood Vaccines safe

[This is not posted to argue with the *gang* on MHA, but as a public service
for parents].

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...3-19850475.htm

Study finds childhood vaccines safe

[See my notes and proven lies]

Excerpts:

[Lie #1}

They found no clear link between early exposure to the preservative
thimerosal and problems with brain function and behavior in children age 7
to 10. The results are in line with past research that found no connection
between vaccines and neurological problems or autism.

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scand...n_symptoms.htm

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Daily...MercPoison.htm

[Lie #2]

Some doctors say the CDC study should reassure parents worried about the
safety of vaccines.



http://www.indexonline.org/indexinde...edstates.shtml

[look how fast this website disappeared, however I still have the words]


indexindex
A chronicle of censorship


Latest updates


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United States: Call to seal vaccine records. Lawyers for
the Bush
Administration have asked for a court order to block public access to papers
on
hundreds of cases of autism allegedly caused by childhood vaccines.


US Department of Justice lawyers told the court that the papers should be
sealed, arguing that automatic disclosure would take away the right of
federal
agencies to decide when and how the material should be released. Federal law
requires suits against vaccine makers to go before a special federal
"vaccine
court" before any civil lawsuit is allowed.


The court was set up by Congress to speed compensation claims and to help
protect vaccine makers from having to pay large punitive awards decided by
juries in state civil courts, reported Reuters as relayed by Yahoo!


The vaccine court is currently hearing approximately 1,000 claims brought by
the families of autistic children. The suits charge that the
measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine, which until recently included a
mercury-containing preservative known as thimerosal, can cause neurological
damage leading to autism.


But if granted, the November 25 request by the Bush Administration would
prevent plaintiffs who later go to civil court from using relevant evidence
uncovered during the obligatory vaccine court proceedings.


New evidence would have to be secured. Jeff Kim, an attorney with a firm
representing about 400 families of autistic children who received the MMR
vaccine, accused the government of trying to lower "a shroud of secrecy over
these documents" in order to protect vaccine manufacturers, who he said were
"the only entities" that would benefit if the documents are sealed.


[Lie #3]

'It's good news for families,' said Dr. Michael Goldstein, vice president of
the American Academy of Neurology who works in private practice in Salt Lake
City. 'There's no evidence that these vaccines have caused injury.'

http://www.vaccineinjury.org/

Excerpt:

The United States Government acknowledges that "[a] vaccine can have severe
side effects, including death or disabling conditions requiring lifetime
medical care." 1 These reactions can be "devastating" to affected families.
2 Conditions that may be associated with vaccines include neurological
injuries (such as encephalopathy, neuropathy, and transverse myelitis),
seizures, and a number of auto-immune disorders (such as Guillan Barre
Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, and arthritis).




http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.

Using the government's own databases, independent
researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
including autism, before and after removal of
mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."

The numbers from California show that reported autism
rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
Geiers report that the number actually went down to
only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
decrease from the projections of 35 percent.

This analysis directly contradicts 2004
recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
examined vaccine safety data from the National
Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
the evidence favored rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
that no further studies should be conducted to
evaluate it."

As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
concentrations.

The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
administered there after it documented a 700-fold
increase in that state alone. California followed
suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.

Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
injected with mercury-containing vaccines.

The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.

The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
concern, as it is still added to some of the most
commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.

Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
(NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
importance."
Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...Ay oub%2C+M.D


http://www.medpagetoday.com/Neurolog...rology/tb/6789

Excerpt:

The study was supported by the CDC. The conclusions in this study are those
of the authors and do not necessarily represent the views of the CDC.
Dr. Thompson reported being a former employee of Merck. Co-authors reported
receiving consulting fees, lecture fees, and other forms or remuneration
from Merck, Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoSmithKline, MedImmune, Wyeth, Novartis,
Abbott, and Aventis.

Co-author Lisa A. Jackson, M.D., reported serving as a consultant to the FDA
Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee; Tracy A. Lieu,
M.D., reported serving as a consultant to the CDC Advisory Committee on
Immunization Practices.

Dr. Offit, author of an accompanying Perspective, reported serving on the
scientific advisory board of Merck and being the co-inventor of the
bovine-human reassortant rotavirus vaccine RotaTeq, on which he holds a
patent.

Mr. Sugarman, author of the other Perspective, reported no financial
conflicts.

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:58:02 GMT, "Jan Drew"
wrote:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.

The criticisms of this study are that;

(1) The diagnositc criteria used by the California Department of
Developmental Services (CDDS) database were changed - so the Geiers
were not comparing like with like.

(2) The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is not even
based on diagnosed cases of autism. *Anybody* can file a "report",
including worried parents ("My child was vaccinated and shortly
thereafter was diagnosed with autism" sort of thing).

And "BLOOMINGTON, MN -- (MARKET WIRE) -- February 6, 2006 -- Eighty
seven percent of all thimerosol-related reports made to the CDC's
vaccine reporting system in 2002 were made by lawyers. And more than
25 percent of reports that correlate the vaccine preservative
thimerosol to the development of autism in young children are filed by
lawyers, not health care providers. These results are detailed in the
February 2006 issue of the journal Pediatrics in a study conducted by
the HealthPartners Research Foundation.

The U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System is designed as an
early warning system for doctors alerting them to possible adverse
connections between vaccines and medical conditions. Some researchers
have used VAERS to document a possible connection between vaccines and
autism. Anyone can report into the system. Litigants use trends in
this data to seek compensation under the Vaccine Injury Compensation
Program as evidence that as the number of immunizations has increased
and the presumed load of thimerosol has increased, the rate of autism
has increased."

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release...674336&k=vaers

What is needed is a study based on actual diagnosed cases, determined
using the *same* diagnostic criteria throughout. Bad science like this
merely adds to the confusion.
--

Terry

Terry Jones wrote:

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:58:02 GMT, "Jan Drew"
wrote:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.

The criticisms of this study are that;

(1) The diagnositc criteria used by the California Department of
Developmental Services (CDDS) database were changed - so the Geiers
were not comparing like with like.

(2) The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is not even
based on diagnosed cases of autism. *Anybody* can file a "report",
including worried parents ("My child was vaccinated and shortly
thereafter was diagnosed with autism" sort of thing).

And "BLOOMINGTON, MN -- (MARKET WIRE) -- February 6, 2006 -- Eighty
seven percent of all thimerosol-related reports made to the CDC's
vaccine reporting system in 2002 were made by lawyers. And more than
25 percent of reports that correlate the vaccine preservative
thimerosol to the development of autism in young children are filed by
lawyers, not health care providers. These results are detailed in the
February 2006 issue of the journal Pediatrics in a study conducted by
the HealthPartners Research Foundation.

The U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System is designed as an
early warning system for doctors alerting them to possible adverse
connections between vaccines and medical conditions. Some researchers
have used VAERS to document a possible connection between vaccines and
autism. Anyone can report into the system. Litigants use trends in
this data to seek compensation under the Vaccine Injury Compensation
Program as evidence that as the number of immunizations has increased
and the presumed load of thimerosol has increased, the rate of autism
has increased."

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release...674336&k=vaers

What is needed is a study based on actual diagnosed cases, determined
using the *same* diagnostic criteria throughout. Bad science like this
merely adds to the confusion.

That's the objective, Terry. By increasing the confusion the
anti-vaccination liars (like the Geiers and the people who publish the
Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons) hope to cause parents to
become so confused that they will stop vaccinating their children. It
is not accidental.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Peter Bowditch wrote:
Terry Jones wrote:

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:58:02 GMT, "Jan Drew"
wrote:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.
The criticisms of this study are that;

(1) The diagnositc criteria used by the California Department of
Developmental Services (CDDS) database were changed - so the Geiers
were not comparing like with like.

(2) The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is not even
based on diagnosed cases of autism. *Anybody* can file a "report",
including worried parents ("My child was vaccinated and shortly
thereafter was diagnosed with autism" sort of thing).

And "BLOOMINGTON, MN -- (MARKET WIRE) -- February 6, 2006 -- Eighty
seven percent of all thimerosol-related reports made to the CDC's
vaccine reporting system in 2002 were made by lawyers. And more than
25 percent of reports that correlate the vaccine preservative
thimerosol to the development of autism in young children are filed by
lawyers, not health care providers. These results are detailed in the
February 2006 issue of the journal Pediatrics in a study conducted by
the HealthPartners Research Foundation.

The U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System is designed as an
early warning system for doctors alerting them to possible adverse
connections between vaccines and medical conditions. Some researchers
have used VAERS to document a possible connection between vaccines and
autism. Anyone can report into the system. Litigants use trends in
this data to seek compensation under the Vaccine Injury Compensation
Program as evidence that as the number of immunizations has increased
and the presumed load of thimerosol has increased, the rate of autism
has increased."

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release...674336&k=vaers

What is needed is a study based on actual diagnosed cases, determined
using the *same* diagnostic criteria throughout. Bad science like this
merely adds to the confusion.

That's the objective, Terry. By increasing the confusion the
anti-vaccination liars (like the Geiers and the people who publish the
Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons) hope to cause parents to
become so confused that they will stop vaccinating their children. It
is not accidental.

The purpose of the study by the Geiers (rhymes with Liars) is to feebly
attempt to increase their credibility before the vaccine court so that
they can rake in the BIG FEES and sell their Chemical Castration
treatment to desperate parents (i.e. victims of anti-vaccination liars)
of autistic children.

Jan Drew wrote:
[This is not posted to argue with the *gang* on MHA, but as a public
service for parents].

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...3-19850475.htm

Study finds childhood vaccines safe

[See my notes and proven lies]

Excerpts:

[Lie #1}

They found no clear link between early exposure to the preservative
thimerosal and problems with brain function and behavior in children age
7 to 10. The results are in line with past research that found no
connection between vaccines and neurological problems or autism.

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scand...n_symptoms.htm

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Daily...MercPoison.htm


[Lie #2]

Some doctors say the CDC study should reassure parents worried about the
safety of vaccines.



http://www.indexonline.org/indexinde...edstates.shtml

[look how fast this website disappeared, however I still have the words]


indexindex
A chronicle of censorship


Latest updates


snippage


United States: Call to seal vaccine records. Lawyers for
the Bush
Administration have asked for a court order to block public access to
papers
on
hundreds of cases of autism allegedly caused by childhood vaccines.


US Department of Justice lawyers told the court that the papers should be
sealed, arguing that automatic disclosure would take away the right of
federal
agencies to decide when and how the material should be released. Federal
law
requires suits against vaccine makers to go before a special federal
"vaccine
court" before any civil lawsuit is allowed.


The court was set up by Congress to speed compensation claims and to help
protect vaccine makers from having to pay large punitive awards decided by
juries in state civil courts, reported Reuters as relayed by Yahoo!


The vaccine court is currently hearing approximately 1,000 claims
brought by
the families of autistic children. The suits charge that the
measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine, which until recently included a
mercury-containing preservative known as thimerosal, can cause neurological
damage leading to autism.


But if granted, the November 25 request by the Bush Administration would
prevent plaintiffs who later go to civil court from using relevant evidence
uncovered during the obligatory vaccine court proceedings.


New evidence would have to be secured. Jeff Kim, an attorney with a firm
representing about 400 families of autistic children who received the MMR
vaccine, accused the government of trying to lower "a shroud of secrecy
over
these documents" in order to protect vaccine manufacturers, who he said
were
"the only entities" that would benefit if the documents are sealed.


[Lie #3]

'It's good news for families,' said Dr. Michael Goldstein, vice
president of the American Academy of Neurology who works in private
practice in Salt Lake City. 'There's no evidence that these vaccines
have caused injury.'

http://www.vaccineinjury.org/

Excerpt:

The United States Government acknowledges that "[a] vaccine can have
severe side effects, including death or disabling conditions requiring
lifetime medical care." 1 These reactions can be "devastating" to
affected families. 2 Conditions that may be associated with vaccines
include neurological injuries (such as encephalopathy, neuropathy, and
transverse myelitis), seizures, and a number of auto-immune disorders
(such as Guillan Barre Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, and arthritis).




http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.

Using the government's own databases, independent
researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
including autism, before and after removal of
mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."

The numbers from California show that reported autism
rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
Geiers report that the number actually went down to
only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
decrease from the projections of 35 percent.

This analysis directly contradicts 2004
recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
examined vaccine safety data from the National
Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
the evidence favored rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
that no further studies should be conducted to
evaluate it."

As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
concentrations.

The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
administered there after it documented a 700-fold
increase in that state alone. California followed
suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.

Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
injected with mercury-containing vaccines.

The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.

The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
concern, as it is still added to some of the most
commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.

Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered
to U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g.
tetanus-diphtheria and monovalent tetanus) administered to older
children and adults. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the
U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999
goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as
soon as possible.As a result, assessing the safety of TCVs
[thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant importance."
Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell
Blaylock in the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that
contain thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious
harm to children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that
vaccines for adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...Ay oub%2C+M.D



http://www.medpagetoday.com/Neurolog...rology/tb/6789

Excerpt:

The study was supported by the CDC. The conclusions in this study are
those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the views of the CDC.
Dr. Thompson reported being a former employee of Merck. Co-authors
reported receiving consulting fees, lecture fees, and other forms or
remuneration from Merck, Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoSmithKline, MedImmune,
Wyeth, Novartis, Abbott, and Aventis.

Co-author Lisa A. Jackson, M.D., reported serving as a consultant to the
FDA Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee; Tracy
A. Lieu, M.D., reported serving as a consultant to the CDC Advisory
Committee on Immunization Practices.

Dr. Offit, author of an accompanying Perspective, reported serving on
the scientific advisory board of Merck and being the co-inventor of the
bovine-human reassortant rotavirus vaccine RotaTeq, on which he holds a
patent.

Mr. Sugarman, author of the other Perspective, reported no financial
conflicts.

Asserting that something is a lie doesn't make it so.

Mark Probert wrote:

Peter Bowditch wrote:
Terry Jones wrote:

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:58:02 GMT, "Jan Drew"
wrote:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.
The criticisms of this study are that;

(1) The diagnositc criteria used by the California Department of
Developmental Services (CDDS) database were changed - so the Geiers
were not comparing like with like.

(2) The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is not even
based on diagnosed cases of autism. *Anybody* can file a "report",
including worried parents ("My child was vaccinated and shortly
thereafter was diagnosed with autism" sort of thing).

And "BLOOMINGTON, MN -- (MARKET WIRE) -- February 6, 2006 -- Eighty
seven percent of all thimerosol-related reports made to the CDC's
vaccine reporting system in 2002 were made by lawyers. And more than
25 percent of reports that correlate the vaccine preservative
thimerosol to the development of autism in young children are filed by
lawyers, not health care providers. These results are detailed in the
February 2006 issue of the journal Pediatrics in a study conducted by
the HealthPartners Research Foundation.

The U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System is designed as an
early warning system for doctors alerting them to possible adverse
connections between vaccines and medical conditions. Some researchers
have used VAERS to document a possible connection between vaccines and
autism. Anyone can report into the system. Litigants use trends in
this data to seek compensation under the Vaccine Injury Compensation
Program as evidence that as the number of immunizations has increased
and the presumed load of thimerosol has increased, the rate of autism
has increased."

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release...674336&k=vaers

What is needed is a study based on actual diagnosed cases, determined
using the *same* diagnostic criteria throughout. Bad science like this
merely adds to the confusion.

That's the objective, Terry. By increasing the confusion the
anti-vaccination liars (like the Geiers and the people who publish the
Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons) hope to cause parents to
become so confused that they will stop vaccinating their children. It
is not accidental.

The purpose of the study by the Geiers (rhymes with Liars) is to feebly
attempt to increase their credibility before the vaccine court so that
they can rake in the BIG FEES and sell their Chemical Castration
treatment to desperate parents (i.e. victims of anti-vaccination liars)
of autistic children.

That too.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:rE4Ni.4621$R%1.2412@trndny06...
Peter Bowditch wrote:
Terry Jones wrote:

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 07:58:02 GMT, "Jan Drew"
wrote:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.
The criticisms of this study are that;

(1) The diagnositc criteria used by the California Department of
Developmental Services (CDDS) database were changed - so the Geiers
were not comparing like with like.

(2) The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) is not even
based on diagnosed cases of autism. *Anybody* can file a "report",
including worried parents ("My child was vaccinated and shortly
thereafter was diagnosed with autism" sort of thing).

And "BLOOMINGTON, MN -- (MARKET WIRE) -- February 6, 2006 -- Eighty
seven percent of all thimerosol-related reports made to the CDC's
vaccine reporting system in 2002 were made by lawyers. And more than
25 percent of reports that correlate the vaccine preservative
thimerosol to the development of autism in young children are filed by
lawyers, not health care providers. These results are detailed in the
February 2006 issue of the journal Pediatrics in a study conducted by
the HealthPartners Research Foundation.

The U.S. Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System is designed as an
early warning system for doctors alerting them to possible adverse
connections between vaccines and medical conditions. Some researchers
have used VAERS to document a possible connection between vaccines and
autism. Anyone can report into the system. Litigants use trends in
this data to seek compensation under the Vaccine Injury Compensation
Program as evidence that as the number of immunizations has increased
and the presumed load of thimerosol has increased, the rate of autism
has increased."

http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release...674336&k=vaers

What is needed is a study based on actual diagnosed cases, determined
using the *same* diagnostic criteria throughout. Bad science like this
merely adds to the confusion.

That's the objective, Terry. By increasing the confusion the
anti-vaccination liars (like the Geiers and the people who publish the
Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons) hope to cause parents to
become so confused that they will stop vaccinating their children. It
is not accidental.

The purpose of the study by the Geiers (rhymes with Liars) is to feebly
attempt to increase their credibility before the vaccine court so that
they can rake in the BIG FEES and sell their Chemical Castration treatment
to desperate parents (i.e. victims of anti-vaccination liars) of autistic
children.

Gosh that sounds like the same tactics that Barrett "et al" use. It really
is the "Big Fee" that drives people to near insanity behaviour, I am sure
you agree,

Rod

Jan Drew wrote:
[This is not posted to argue with the *gang* on MHA, but as a public
service for parents].

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...3-19850475.htm

Study finds childhood vaccines safe

[See my notes and proven lies]

Excerpts:

[Lie #1}

They found no clear link between early exposure to the preservative
thimerosal and problems with brain function and behavior in children age
7 to 10. The results are in line with past research that found no uf
connection between vaccines and neurological problems or autism.

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scand...n_symptoms.htm

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Daily...MercPoison.htm

The links above don't prove a thing. Show me the study that says that
autism is higher in children vaccinated (Thimerosal or not) than those
who were not.

What vaccines contain Thimerosal?

The MMR vaccines have never had it.

The entire range havirix infanrix rotarix don't have it




[Lie #2]

Some doctors say the CDC study should reassure parents worried about the
safety of vaccines.



http://www.indexonline.org/indexinde...edstates.shtml

[look how fast this website disappeared, however I still have the words]


indexindex
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Latest updates


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United States: Call to seal vaccine records. Lawyers for
the Bush
Administration have asked for a court order to block public access to
papers
on
hundreds of cases of autism allegedly caused by childhood vaccines.


US Department of Justice lawyers told the court that the papers should be
sealed, arguing that automatic disclosure would take away the right of
federal
agencies to decide when and how the material should be released. Federal
law
requires suits against vaccine makers to go before a special federal
"vaccine
court" before any civil lawsuit is allowed.


The court was set up by Congress to speed compensation claims and to help
protect vaccine makers from having to pay large punitive awards decided by
juries in state civil courts, reported Reuters as relayed by Yahoo!


The vaccine court is currently hearing approximately 1,000 claims
brought by
the families of autistic children. The suits charge that the
measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine, which until recently included a
mercury-containing preservative known as thimerosal, can cause neurological
damage leading to autism.


But if granted, the November 25 request by the Bush Administration would
prevent plaintiffs who later go to civil court from using relevant evidence
uncovered during the obligatory vaccine court proceedings.


New evidence would have to be secured. Jeff Kim, an attorney with a firm
representing about 400 families of autistic children who received the MMR
vaccine, accused the government of trying to lower "a shroud of secrecy
over
these documents" in order to protect vaccine manufacturers, who he said
were
"the only entities" that would benefit if the documents are sealed.


[Lie #3]

'It's good news for families,' said Dr. Michael Goldstein, vice
president of the American Academy of Neurology who works in private
practice in Salt Lake City. 'There's no evidence that these vaccines
have caused injury.'

http://www.vaccineinjury.org/

Excerpt:

The United States Government acknowledges that "[a] vaccine can have
severe side effects, including death or disabling conditions requiring
lifetime medical care." 1 These reactions can be "devastating" to
affected families. 2 Conditions that may be associated with vaccines
include neurological injuries (such as encephalopathy, neuropathy, and
transverse myelitis), seizures, and a number of auto-immune disorders
(such as Guillan Barre Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, and arthritis).




http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.

Using the government's own databases, independent
researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
including autism, before and after removal of
mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."

The numbers from California show that reported autism
rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
Geiers report that the number actually went down to
only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
decrease from the projections of 35 percent.

This analysis directly contradicts 2004
recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
examined vaccine safety data from the National
Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
the evidence favored rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
that no further studies should be conducted to
evaluate it."

As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
concentrations.

The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
administered there after it documented a 700-fold
increase in that state alone. California followed
suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.

Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
injected with mercury-containing vaccines.

The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.

The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
concern, as it is still added to some of the most
commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.

Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered
to U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g.
tetanus-diphtheria and monovalent tetanus) administered to older
children and adults. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the
U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999
goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as
soon as possible.As a result, assessing the safety of TCVs
[thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant importance."
Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell
Blaylock in the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that
contain thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious
harm to children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that
vaccines for adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...Ay oub%2C+M.D



http://www.medpagetoday.com/Neurolog...rology/tb/6789

Excerpt:

The study was supported by the CDC. The conclusions in this study are
those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the views of the CDC.
Dr. Thompson reported being a former employee of Merck. Co-authors
reported receiving consulting fees, lecture fees, and other forms or
remuneration from Merck, Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoSmithKline, MedImmune,
Wyeth, Novartis, Abbott, and Aventis.

Co-author Lisa A. Jackson, M.D., reported serving as a consultant to the
FDA Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee; Tracy
A. Lieu, M.D., reported serving as a consultant to the CDC Advisory
Committee on Immunization Practices.

Dr. Offit, author of an accompanying Perspective, reported serving on
the scientific advisory board of Merck and being the co-inventor of the
bovine-human reassortant rotavirus vaccine RotaTeq, on which he holds a
patent.

Mr. Sugarman, author of the other Perspective, reported no financial
conflicts.







What vaccines contain Thimerosal?

The MMR vaccines have never had it.

The entire range havirix infanrix rotarix don't have it

On Oct 4, 11:05 am, Rob wrote:
Jan Drew wrote:
[This is not posted to argue with the *gang* on MHA, but as a public
service for parents].

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...X-0013-1985047...

Study finds childhood vaccines safe

[See my notes and proven lies]

Excerpts:

[Lie #1}

They found no clear link between early exposure to the preservative
thimerosal and problems with brain function and behavior in children age
7 to 10. The results are in line with past research that found no uf
connection between vaccines and neurological problems or autism.

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scand...rison_symptoms...

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Daily...mUniqueMercPoi...

The links above don't prove a thing. Show me the study that says that
autism is higher in children vaccinated (Thimerosal or not) than those
who were not.

What vaccines contain Thimerosal?

The MMR vaccines have never had it.

The entire range havirix infanrix rotarix don't have it







[Lie #2]

Some doctors say the CDC study should reassure parents worried about the
safety of vaccines.

http://www.indexonline.org/indexinde...edstates.shtml

[look how fast this website disappeared, however I still have the words]

indexindex
A chronicle of censorship

Latest updates

snippage

United States: Call to seal vaccine records. Lawyers for
the Bush
Administration have asked for a court order to block public access to
papers
on
hundreds of cases of autism allegedly caused by childhood vaccines.

US Department of Justice lawyers told the court that the papers should be
sealed, arguing that automatic disclosure would take away the right of
federal
agencies to decide when and how the material should be released. Federal
law
requires suits against vaccine makers to go before a special federal
"vaccine
court" before any civil lawsuit is allowed.

The court was set up by Congress to speed compensation claims and to help
protect vaccine makers from having to pay large punitive awards decided by
juries in state civil courts, reported Reuters as relayed by Yahoo!

The vaccine court is currently hearing approximately 1,000 claims
brought by
the families of autistic children. The suits charge that the
measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccine, which until recently included a
mercury-containing preservative known as thimerosal, can cause neurological
damage leading to autism.

But if granted, the November 25 request by the Bush Administration would
prevent plaintiffs who later go to civil court from using relevant evidence
uncovered during the obligatory vaccine court proceedings.

New evidence would have to be secured. Jeff Kim, an attorney with a firm
representing about 400 families of autistic children who received the MMR
vaccine, accused the government of trying to lower "a shroud of secrecy
over
these documents" in order to protect vaccine manufacturers, who he said
were
"the only entities" that would benefit if the documents are sealed.

[Lie #3]

'It's good news for families,' said Dr. Michael Goldstein, vice
president of the American Academy of Neurology who works in private
practice in Salt Lake City. 'There's no evidence that these vaccines
have caused injury.'

http://www.vaccineinjury.org/

Excerpt:

The United States Government acknowledges that "[a] vaccine can have
severe side effects, including death or disabling conditions requiring
lifetime medical care." 1 These reactions can be "devastating" to
affected families. 2 Conditions that may be associated with vaccines
include neurological injuries (such as encephalopathy, neuropathy, and
transverse myelitis), seizures, and a number of auto-immune disorders
(such as Guillan Barre Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, and arthritis).

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.

Using the government's own databases, independent
researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
including autism, before and after removal of
mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."

The numbers from California show that reported autism
rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
Geiers report that the number actually went down to
only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
decrease from the projections of 35 percent.

This analysis directly contradicts 2004
recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
examined vaccine safety data from the National
Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
the evidence favored rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
that no further studies should be conducted to
evaluate it."

As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
concentrations.

The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
administered there after it documented a 700-fold
increase in that state alone. California followed
suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.

Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
injected with mercury-containing vaccines.

The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.

The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
concern, as it is still added to some of the most
commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.

Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered
to U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g.
tetanus-diphtheria and monovalent tetanus) administered to older
children and adults. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the
U.S. National Academy of Sciences (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999
goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as
soon as possible.As a result, assessing the safety of TCVs
[thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant importance."
Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell
Blaylock in the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that
contain thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious
harm to children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that
vaccines for adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0646&q=Dr.+Dav...

http://www.medpagetoday.com/Neurolog...rology/tb/6789

Excerpt:

The study was supported by the CDC. The conclusions in this study are
those of the authors and do not necessarily represent the views of the CDC.
Dr. Thompson reported being a former employee of Merck. Co-authors
reported receiving consulting fees, lecture fees, and other forms or
remuneration from Merck, Sanofi Pasteur, GlaxoSmithKline, MedImmune,
Wyeth, Novartis, Abbott, and Aventis.

Co-author Lisa A. Jackson, M.D., reported serving as a consultant to the
FDA Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee; Tracy
A. Lieu, M.D., reported serving as a consultant to the CDC Advisory
Committee on Immunization Practices.

Dr. Offit, author of an accompanying Perspective, reported serving on
the scientific advisory board of Merck and being the co-inventor of the
bovine-human reassortant rotavirus vaccine RotaTeq, on which he holds a
patent.

Mr. Sugarman, author of the other Perspective, reported no financial
conflicts.

What vaccines contain Thimerosal?

The MMR vaccines have never had it.

The entire range havirix infanrix rotarix don't have it- Hide quoted text -

Jan has been informed of those facts. Jan has also been repeatedly
shown that Autism is not associated with vaccination nor Thimerosal.
She has been repeatedly shown that Thimerosal, like dental amalgams,
is not the same as its organic mercury. Despite knowing this, she
continues to parrot the outrageous lies of Boyd Haley and his ilk.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....df1b7ea175d61c

Take a look at this post, it should help put Jan Drew's postings into
the proper light:

Introduction: Once you tell Boyd's lies 'bout Heavy Metals.....

Sung to the tune of Heavy Metal by Don Felder, not the song of the
same title by Sammy Hagar. It wouldn't hurt to hear the song before
reading this...)


Light a cig up & booze awhile
Leave the truth far behind
You can vent your rage at the ADA
Or claim that all the Jews here are liars
But if you're ready to lie into overdrive
Boyd Haley's the man you need
To post lies so insane
Debunked and arcane
You must become a Heavy Metal deceiver


Once you tell Boyd's lies, lies, lies
'bout Heavy Metals
It's the only thing gives you purpose in this life
Spreading lies, lies, lies, lies
'bout Heavy Metals
Facts denied
Lying 'bout thimerosal


My, oh my, how this bigot can lie
When she starts cutting & pasting
She won't put down her booze
Nor acknowledge the truth
She didn't get that author's permission


It's not a big surprise
Jan thought loa parasites
Were thriving inside of her colon
Jan searched through her pooh
As Hulda said to do
Then became a Heavy Metal deceiver


Once you tell Boyd's lies, lies, lies
'bout Heavy Metals
It's the only thing gives you purpose in this life
Spreading lies, lies, lies, lies
'bout Heavy Metals
Facts denied
Lying 'bout thimerosal


Heavy Metals 5x and fade out

On Oct 4, 11:05 am, Rob wrote:
Jan Drew wrote:
[This is not posted to argue with the *gang* on MHA, but as a public
service for parents].

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...X-0013-1985047...

Study finds childhood vaccines safe

[See my notes and proven lies]

Excerpts:

[Lie #1}

They found no clear link between early exposure to the preservative
thimerosal and problems with brain function and behavior in children age
7 to 10. The results are in line with past research that found no uf
connection between vaccines and neurological problems or autism.

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Scand...rison_symptoms...

http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Daily...mUniqueMercPoi...

The links above don't prove a thing. Show me the study that says that
autism is higher in children vaccinated (Thimerosal or not) than those
who were not.

What vaccines contain Thimerosal?

The MMR vaccines have never had it.

The entire range havirix infanrix rotarix don't have it







[Lie #2]

Some doctors say the CDC study should reassure parents worried about the
safety of vaccines.

http://www.indexonline.org/indexinde...edstates.shtml

[look how fast this website disappeared, however I still have the words]

indexindex
A chronicle of censorship

Latest updates

snippage


Mr. Sugarman, author of the other Perspective, reported no financial
conflicts.

What vaccines contain Thimerosal?

The MMR vaccines have never had it.

The entire range havirix infanrix rotarix don't have it- Hide quoted text -

Jan has been informed of those facts. Jan has also been repeatedly
shown that Autism is not associated with vaccination nor Thimerosal.
She has been repeatedly shown that Thimerosal, like dental amalgams,
is not the same as its organic mercury. Despite knowing this, she
continues to parrot the outrageous lies of Boyd Haley and his ilk.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....df1b7ea175d61c

Take a look at this post, it should help put Jan Drew's postings into
the proper light:

Introduction: Once you tell Boyd's lies 'bout Heavy Metals.....

Sung to the tune of Heavy Metal by Don Felder, not the song of the
same title by Sammy Hagar. It wouldn't hurt to hear the song before
reading this...)


Light a cig up & booze awhile
Leave the truth far behind
You can vent your rage at the ADA
Or claim that all the Jews here are liars
But if you're ready to lie into overdrive
Boyd Haley's the man you need
To post lies so insane
Debunked and arcane
You must become a Heavy Metal deceiver


Once you tell Boyd's lies, lies, lies
'bout Heavy Metals
It's the only thing gives you purpose in this life
Spreading lies, lies, lies, lies
'bout Heavy Metals
Facts denied
Lying 'bout thimerosal


My, oh my, how this bigot can lie
When she starts cutting & pasting
She won't put down her booze
Nor acknowledge the truth
She didn't get that author's permission


It's not a big surprise
Jan thought loa parasites
Were thriving inside of her colon
Jan searched through her pooh
As Hulda said to do
Then became a Heavy Metal deceiver


Once you tell Boyd's lies, lies, lies
'bout Heavy Metals
It's the only thing gives you purpose in this life
Spreading lies, lies, lies, lies
'bout Heavy Metals
Facts denied
Lying 'bout thimerosal


Heavy Metals 5x and fade out