Shameful Neglect

I was walking out of the grocery store this afternoon when I heard an
irate woman exclaim, "I can't *believe* there's a baby in that car!"

I walked over to see if my suspicions were correct, and yes indeed, some
idiot had left an infant (maybe 3-4 months old) in their car in the
middle of the parking lot, with the windows all rolled up.

By coincidence, the irate woman who had noticed this was an old neighbor
of mine who I had not seen in over 4 years.

We could not tell if the baby was still alive -- it was either asleep or
dead. I began writing the license plate number of the car down, first
thinking that I could go into the grocery store and have the owner
paged, then remembering that I was in a sort of strip mall and the owner
could be in any of a number of stores. It had dawned on me that we
should break a front window with the tire iron I had in my trunk so we
could open the back door and get the baby out, when the baby's mother
approached the car.

The irate woman accosted the mother and asked her what she was doing
leaving a baby alone in a car with the windows up on a sunny day
(expletives omitted). This lowlife woman, who just oozed "welfare mom",
"ignorance", and "just went in for a pack of smokes, what's the big
deal?" claimed that she hadn't left the baby alone -- "I sweah ta gawd,
my fvend was wit' da baby, I dunno wheah she vent". The woman was a
quick liar, but not a very good one.

I told her myself that she should have been more careful, she could lose
her baby like that. She hopped into her car and drove off.

On the way home, I thought of my own little baby and got angrier and
angrier. I'm like this. Sometimes, anger doesn't hit me until later.

Then I remembered I have the woman's license number in my pocket.

I am, after all, obligated to call DCYF about this, aren't I? I'm going
to call my old neighbor and see what she's going to do. Don't think
I'll have a hard time convincing her to do the right thing.

Of course this lying moron probably won custody of the baby from some
father because that was in the "best interest of the child". What a
laugh. Except it isn't funny at all.

Damned woman couldn't even be bothered to carry her baby into the store
with her. What a friggin' moron. I feel sorry for her kid. I wish I'd
smashed her car window in while I had a good excuse to do so. The
stupid cow probably would have demanded I stay and wait for the police
to show up so she could shoot herself in the foot telling "her side of
the story".

- Ron ^*^

Don't just blame the idiot mother. Idiot fathers do this, too. And no,
they're not all on welfare. Ignorance follows all economic backgrounds.

"Werebat" wrote in message
news:sUJ%e.29121$hp.572@lakeread08...
:I was walking out of the grocery store this afternoon when I heard an
: irate woman exclaim, "I can't *believe* there's a baby in that car!"
:
: I walked over to see if my suspicions were correct, and yes indeed, some
: idiot had left an infant (maybe 3-4 months old) in their car in the
: middle of the parking lot, with the windows all rolled up.
:
: By coincidence, the irate woman who had noticed this was an old neighbor
: of mine who I had not seen in over 4 years.
:
: We could not tell if the baby was still alive -- it was either asleep or
: dead. I began writing the license plate number of the car down, first
: thinking that I could go into the grocery store and have the owner
: paged, then remembering that I was in a sort of strip mall and the owner
: could be in any of a number of stores. It had dawned on me that we
: should break a front window with the tire iron I had in my trunk so we
: could open the back door and get the baby out, when the baby's mother
: approached the car.
:
: The irate woman accosted the mother and asked her what she was doing
: leaving a baby alone in a car with the windows up on a sunny day
: (expletives omitted). This lowlife woman, who just oozed "welfare mom",
: "ignorance", and "just went in for a pack of smokes, what's the big
: deal?" claimed that she hadn't left the baby alone -- "I sweah ta gawd,
: my fvend was wit' da baby, I dunno wheah she vent". The woman was a
: quick liar, but not a very good one.
:
: I told her myself that she should have been more careful, she could lose
: her baby like that. She hopped into her car and drove off.
:
: On the way home, I thought of my own little baby and got angrier and
: angrier. I'm like this. Sometimes, anger doesn't hit me until later.
:
: Then I remembered I have the woman's license number in my pocket.
:
: I am, after all, obligated to call DCYF about this, aren't I? I'm going
: to call my old neighbor and see what she's going to do. Don't think
: I'll have a hard time convincing her to do the right thing.
:
: Of course this lying moron probably won custody of the baby from some
: father because that was in the "best interest of the child". What a
: laugh. Except it isn't funny at all.
:
: Damned woman couldn't even be bothered to carry her baby into the store
: with her. What a friggin' moron. I feel sorry for her kid. I wish I'd
: smashed her car window in while I had a good excuse to do so. The
: stupid cow probably would have demanded I stay and wait for the police
: to show up so she could shoot herself in the foot telling "her side of
: the story".
:
: - Ron ^*^
:

"Mystified One" wrote in message
...
Don't just blame the idiot mother. Idiot fathers do this, too.

OK, I have to ask. Can't help myself. Why would one NOT blame the idiot
mother? SHE is the one who left the child in the car. Just because some
idiot fathers may have done the same thing at some time does not excuse this
idiot mother---right? Of course she's to blame!

And no,
they're not all on welfare. Ignorance follows all economic backgrounds.

"Werebat" wrote in message
news:sUJ%e.29121$hp.572@lakeread08...
:I was walking out of the grocery store this afternoon when I heard an
: irate woman exclaim, "I can't *believe* there's a baby in that car!"
:
: I walked over to see if my suspicions were correct, and yes indeed, some
: idiot had left an infant (maybe 3-4 months old) in their car in the
: middle of the parking lot, with the windows all rolled up.
:
: By coincidence, the irate woman who had noticed this was an old neighbor
: of mine who I had not seen in over 4 years.
:
: We could not tell if the baby was still alive -- it was either asleep or
: dead. I began writing the license plate number of the car down, first
: thinking that I could go into the grocery store and have the owner
: paged, then remembering that I was in a sort of strip mall and the owner
: could be in any of a number of stores. It had dawned on me that we
: should break a front window with the tire iron I had in my trunk so we
: could open the back door and get the baby out, when the baby's mother
: approached the car.
:
: The irate woman accosted the mother and asked her what she was doing
: leaving a baby alone in a car with the windows up on a sunny day
: (expletives omitted). This lowlife woman, who just oozed "welfare mom",
: "ignorance", and "just went in for a pack of smokes, what's the big
: deal?" claimed that she hadn't left the baby alone -- "I sweah ta gawd,
: my fvend was wit' da baby, I dunno wheah she vent". The woman was a
: quick liar, but not a very good one.
:
: I told her myself that she should have been more careful, she could lose
: her baby like that. She hopped into her car and drove off.
:
: On the way home, I thought of my own little baby and got angrier and
: angrier. I'm like this. Sometimes, anger doesn't hit me until later.
:
: Then I remembered I have the woman's license number in my pocket.
:
: I am, after all, obligated to call DCYF about this, aren't I? I'm going
: to call my old neighbor and see what she's going to do. Don't think
: I'll have a hard time convincing her to do the right thing.
:
: Of course this lying moron probably won custody of the baby from some
: father because that was in the "best interest of the child". What a
: laugh. Except it isn't funny at all.
:
: Damned woman couldn't even be bothered to carry her baby into the store
: with her. What a friggin' moron. I feel sorry for her kid. I wish I'd
: smashed her car window in while I had a good excuse to do so. The
: stupid cow probably would have demanded I stay and wait for the police
: to show up so she could shoot herself in the foot telling "her side of
: the story".
:
: - Ron ^*^
:

yes, she is an idiot. A huge one. But I see several of these every year,
even right here in my own city. Most of them are drunks to boot, and what
we get is children left in the car for several HOURS as well. This included
married couples who came back from a party smashed (note they were drunk at
the time they were driving with the child in the car) and then they passed
out in their home for hours on end.

I wish these idiots would learn. It seems they can't reason well enough to
figure out the car is HOT when they come back. I wouldn't be against
smashing the window immediately, consequences be damned. If you've got a
cell phone, call 911 right after smashing the window. But it's not ALL
welfare mothers who do this.

"teachrmama" wrote in message
...
:
: "Mystified One" wrote in message
: ...
: Don't just blame the idiot mother. Idiot fathers do this, too.
:
: OK, I have to ask. Can't help myself. Why would one NOT blame the idiot
: mother? SHE is the one who left the child in the car. Just because some
: idiot fathers may have done the same thing at some time does not excuse
this
: idiot mother---right? Of course she's to blame!
:
: And no,
: they're not all on welfare. Ignorance follows all economic backgrounds.
:
: "Werebat" wrote in message
: news:sUJ%e.29121$hp.572@lakeread08...
: :I was walking out of the grocery store this afternoon when I heard an
: : irate woman exclaim, "I can't *believe* there's a baby in that car!"
: :
: : I walked over to see if my suspicions were correct, and yes indeed,
some
: : idiot had left an infant (maybe 3-4 months old) in their car in the
: : middle of the parking lot, with the windows all rolled up.
: :
: : By coincidence, the irate woman who had noticed this was an old
neighbor
: : of mine who I had not seen in over 4 years.
: :
: : We could not tell if the baby was still alive -- it was either asleep
or
: : dead. I began writing the license plate number of the car down, first
: : thinking that I could go into the grocery store and have the owner
: : paged, then remembering that I was in a sort of strip mall and the
owner
: : could be in any of a number of stores. It had dawned on me that we
: : should break a front window with the tire iron I had in my trunk so we
: : could open the back door and get the baby out, when the baby's mother
: : approached the car.
: :
: : The irate woman accosted the mother and asked her what she was doing
: : leaving a baby alone in a car with the windows up on a sunny day
: : (expletives omitted). This lowlife woman, who just oozed "welfare
mom",
: : "ignorance", and "just went in for a pack of smokes, what's the big
: : deal?" claimed that she hadn't left the baby alone -- "I sweah ta
gawd,
: : my fvend was wit' da baby, I dunno wheah she vent". The woman was a
: : quick liar, but not a very good one.
: :
: : I told her myself that she should have been more careful, she could
lose
: : her baby like that. She hopped into her car and drove off.
: :
: : On the way home, I thought of my own little baby and got angrier and
: : angrier. I'm like this. Sometimes, anger doesn't hit me until later.
: :
: : Then I remembered I have the woman's license number in my pocket.
: :
: : I am, after all, obligated to call DCYF about this, aren't I? I'm
going
: : to call my old neighbor and see what she's going to do. Don't think
: : I'll have a hard time convincing her to do the right thing.
: :
: : Of course this lying moron probably won custody of the baby from some
: : father because that was in the "best interest of the child". What a
: : laugh. Except it isn't funny at all.
: :
: : Damned woman couldn't even be bothered to carry her baby into the
store
: : with her. What a friggin' moron. I feel sorry for her kid. I wish
I'd
: : smashed her car window in while I had a good excuse to do so. The
: : stupid cow probably would have demanded I stay and wait for the police
: : to show up so she could shoot herself in the foot telling "her side of
: : the story".
: :
: : - Ron ^*^
: :
:
:
:
:

Mystified One wrote:
yes, she is an idiot. A huge one. But I see several of these every year,
even right here in my own city. Most of them are drunks to boot, and what
we get is children left in the car for several HOURS as well. This included
married couples who came back from a party smashed (note they were drunk at
the time they were driving with the child in the car) and then they passed
out in their home for hours on end.

Morons. I came home and held my own baby and couldn't keep from crying
about it, I was so angry. It was a baby just like him. What if it had
been him?!? I know, it wouldn't have been him because I wouldn't DO
such a thing, but when you've got a small baby yourself you aren't
always rational.


I wish these idiots would learn. It seems they can't reason well enough to
figure out the car is HOT when they come back. I wouldn't be against
smashing the window immediately, consequences be damned.

I was just about to do just that, when the degenerate mother showed up.
I do wish she had come about 5 minutes later, as I said.


If you've got a
cell phone, call 911 right after smashing the window.

Don't own one. The officer I spoke with later said the same thing --
"You should've called that in right away". As if everyone owns a cel
phone. :^/


But it's not ALL
welfare mothers who do this.

Where did I say that?

I think there are SOME welfare mothers who have legitimate reasons to be
what they are. I think there are also a lot of people riding the gravy
train because they are too lazy to be bothered taking care of themselves
when the government and their exes will do just fine.

I also think it is highly likely that this woman, stupid and ignorant as
she is, would have won custody of her child in a family court as a
matter of course. This is unacceptable.

- Ron ^*^

Not only should child protection be involved, but what this woman did
is a crime and she should be arrested for it. Heck, you don't even
know for sure whether the baby is still alive and the police may
already be involved wishing they had enough evidence to convict.

I do take issue that you turn this into a potential bad custody award
issue, however, given that you have no further information. For all
anyone knows, she is married to the baby's father and they live with
him.

Fact of the matter is, even when there is a father in the home, there
are still a multitude of families where the mother (good or bad) is
expected to (for lack of a better way to phrase this) act as though
she is the sole parent, taking the kids with her to the market because
the father doesn't want to "babysit." I believe that it is THIS
family model that contributes to the courts awarding the mother
custody in most cases. The courts make an assumption whether correct
or not.

I am not arguing that mother's SHOULD get custody... only that
co-parenting needs to continue to the point where courts see IT as the
norm rather than the above family model. I see co-parenting happening
more and more in educated families, even those with a stay at home
mom, but have not seen it too much with the uneducated.

As for the mother with the baby in the car, there is NO excuse,
whether she lives with the baby's father or not. Criminal neglect may
be the father's only hope in GETTING custody and, if he lives with
them, to PROTECT his child. At any rate, this woman should not be
entrusted with a baby because she obviously does not make good
decisions.




On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 01:05:26 -0400, Werebat
wrote:

I was walking out of the grocery store this afternoon when I heard an
irate woman exclaim, "I can't *believe* there's a baby in that car!"

I walked over to see if my suspicions were correct, and yes indeed, some
idiot had left an infant (maybe 3-4 months old) in their car in the
middle of the parking lot, with the windows all rolled up.

By coincidence, the irate woman who had noticed this was an old neighbor
of mine who I had not seen in over 4 years.

We could not tell if the baby was still alive -- it was either asleep or
dead. I began writing the license plate number of the car down, first
thinking that I could go into the grocery store and have the owner
paged, then remembering that I was in a sort of strip mall and the owner
could be in any of a number of stores. It had dawned on me that we
should break a front window with the tire iron I had in my trunk so we
could open the back door and get the baby out, when the baby's mother
approached the car.

The irate woman accosted the mother and asked her what she was doing
leaving a baby alone in a car with the windows up on a sunny day
(expletives omitted). This lowlife woman, who just oozed "welfare mom",
"ignorance", and "just went in for a pack of smokes, what's the big
deal?" claimed that she hadn't left the baby alone -- "I sweah ta gawd,
my fvend was wit' da baby, I dunno wheah she vent". The woman was a
quick liar, but not a very good one.

I told her myself that she should have been more careful, she could lose
her baby like that. She hopped into her car and drove off.

On the way home, I thought of my own little baby and got angrier and
angrier. I'm like this. Sometimes, anger doesn't hit me until later.

Then I remembered I have the woman's license number in my pocket.

I am, after all, obligated to call DCYF about this, aren't I? I'm going
to call my old neighbor and see what she's going to do. Don't think
I'll have a hard time convincing her to do the right thing.

Of course this lying moron probably won custody of the baby from some
father because that was in the "best interest of the child". What a
laugh. Except it isn't funny at all.

Damned woman couldn't even be bothered to carry her baby into the store
with her. What a friggin' moron. I feel sorry for her kid. I wish I'd
smashed her car window in while I had a good excuse to do so. The
stupid cow probably would have demanded I stay and wait for the police
to show up so she could shoot herself in the foot telling "her side of
the story".

- Ron ^*^

"Werebat" wrote in

(expletives omitted). This lowlife woman, who just oozed "welfare mom",
"ignorance", and "just went in for a pack of smokes, what's the big deal?"

It sounds like this is a normal routine for this woman, please report her to
child proctective services before it's too late.
At least she'll think twice about just popping in for smokes or worse yet,
go shopping and then you'll read about it in the paper. That small child
needs to be monitored by somebody responsible enough to save it's life.

G wrote:

"Werebat" wrote in


(expletives omitted). This lowlife woman, who just oozed "welfare mom",
"ignorance", and "just went in for a pack of smokes, what's the big deal?"


It sounds like this is a normal routine for this woman, please report her to
child proctective services before it's too late.
At least she'll think twice about just popping in for smokes or worse yet,
go shopping and then you'll read about it in the paper. That small child
needs to be monitored by somebody responsible enough to save it's life.

My GF and others have expressed shock and disgust at what happened, but
told me that DCYF is unlikely to do anything based on a phone call
unless the woman was caught red-handed (i.e. if we had called the police
via cel when first seeing the baby and the police had arrived before the
mother).

Still, I have figured out what state the plates were and plan to call
the police and DCYF on Monday morning, as well as locate the other
witness and try to convince her to call (she may have already done so).
I was told, "They won't do anything over one random call", but who
knows? I might be the THIRD or FOURTH person reporting this idiot.

And still, I wish she had arrived 5 minutes later so I could have
smashed her ****ing window.

- Ron ^*^

"Werebat" wrote in

I was told, "They won't do anything over one random call", but who knows?
I might be the THIRD or FOURTH person reporting this idiot.

You can probably count on a few already there, but it's best to at least
start a paper trail!
Maybe a documented letter from you and the other witness might be taken
more seriously than a phone call.
CC it to your local state rep too and have them follow it up. Let them do
something real to protect the children or at least this little guy.

In my stepson's case, there were 15 reports by 9 different people and they
STILL failed to respond until she finally was so out of control she punched
another child in the face. We had police photographs (this child was told
it was HIS fault his mother beat him), we had a DA drop the charges (they
weren't sure if the beating that left welts on his back that scabbed over
occurred during or after disclipline), and his mother's parents were pulling
strings influencing the outcome to that severe level of denial. He'd had
bite marks at various points, he'd been hit so hard across the face to leave
a handprint (blood blister on the ear, temporary hearing loss), and we
couldn't get anyone to do anything about it.

We're lucky we got him when we did. She ended up dead and even Child
Protection Services conceded in the end that had he been with her, he'd be
gone too.

"G" wrote in message
m...
:
: "Werebat" wrote in
:
: I was told, "They won't do anything over one random call", but who
knows?
: I might be the THIRD or FOURTH person reporting this idiot.
:
: You can probably count on a few already there, but it's best to at least
: start a paper trail!
: Maybe a documented letter from you and the other witness might be taken
: more seriously than a phone call.
: CC it to your local state rep too and have them follow it up. Let them do
: something real to protect the children or at least this little guy.
:
: