Dual Language Program

lizzard woman wrote:

Why do you think the French Immersion public schools grade schools don't
publish the standardized test scores?

One thing that might be overlooked here is that we don't use SAT's for
our college and university application process. So the testing becomes
irrelavant.

--
Brigitte aa #2145
edd #3 February 15, 2004
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/

"Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare."
~ Harriet Martineau

"DeliciousTruffles" wrote in
message ...
| lizzard woman wrote:
|
| Why do you think the French Immersion public schools grade schools don't
| publish the standardized test scores?
|
| One thing that might be overlooked here is that we don't use SAT's for
| our college and university application process. So the testing becomes
| irrelavant.

Wow. That was no small feature to overlook.

I withdraw all my comments in this thread... never mind (heh... heh...
heh...)

How ya feeling?

--
sharon, momma to savannah and willow (11/11/94)

"DeliciousTruffles" wrote in
message ...
| lizzard woman wrote:
|
| Why do you think the French Immersion public schools grade schools don't
| publish the standardized test scores?
|
| One thing that might be overlooked here is that we don't use SAT's for
| our college and university application process. So the testing becomes
| irrelavant.

Wow. That was no small feature to overlook.

I withdraw all my comments in this thread... never mind (heh... heh...
heh...)

How ya feeling?

--
sharon, momma to savannah and willow (11/11/94)

lizzard woman wrote:

"DeliciousTruffles" wrote in
message ...
| lizzard woman wrote:
|
| Why do you think the French Immersion public schools grade schools don't
| publish the standardized test scores?
|
| One thing that might be overlooked here is that we don't use SAT's for
| our college and university application process. So the testing becomes
| irrelavant.

Wow. That was no small feature to overlook.

I withdraw all my comments in this thread... never mind (heh... heh...
heh...)

How ya feeling?

Waiting, waiting, waiting...... LOL! :-)

--
Brigitte aa #2145
edd #3 February 15, 2004
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/

"Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare."
~ Harriet Martineau

lizzard woman wrote:

"DeliciousTruffles" wrote in
message ...
| lizzard woman wrote:
|
| Why do you think the French Immersion public schools grade schools don't
| publish the standardized test scores?
|
| One thing that might be overlooked here is that we don't use SAT's for
| our college and university application process. So the testing becomes
| irrelavant.

Wow. That was no small feature to overlook.

I withdraw all my comments in this thread... never mind (heh... heh...
heh...)

How ya feeling?

Waiting, waiting, waiting...... LOL! :-)

--
Brigitte aa #2145
edd #3 February 15, 2004
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/

"Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare."
~ Harriet Martineau

"H Schinske" wrote in message
...

If anything, being literate in two languages would be extraordinarily
helpful.
Latin was immensely helpful on the verbal SAT, and French would have been
nearly as much so.

I agree. I think exposure to other languages helps vocabulary quite a lot.

My kids' school uses a spelling program that has (imho) some absolutely
ridiculous words on the weekly list (108 words per week with 40-50 words on
a test every Friday. Often, these words are entirely new to the kids, so we
wind up having a vocabulary lesson as well as a spelling lesson. One of
this weeks' words, for example, is "manipulation"; it would be much easier
for the kids to know what this means if they knew that "le main" is "the
hand" in French. When we worked on "interruption", I had to remind them
that it came from the Latin "inter" and "ruptare" [or whatever that root
is...] to help them remember the double R [kids up here all know about
ruptured pipes!]. In my opinion, having a second language would *help*,
vocabulary in the primary language, not hurt.

Julie
Mom to Erica & Chris, 07/97

"H Schinske" wrote in message
...

If anything, being literate in two languages would be extraordinarily
helpful.
Latin was immensely helpful on the verbal SAT, and French would have been
nearly as much so.

I agree. I think exposure to other languages helps vocabulary quite a lot.

My kids' school uses a spelling program that has (imho) some absolutely
ridiculous words on the weekly list (108 words per week with 40-50 words on
a test every Friday. Often, these words are entirely new to the kids, so we
wind up having a vocabulary lesson as well as a spelling lesson. One of
this weeks' words, for example, is "manipulation"; it would be much easier
for the kids to know what this means if they knew that "le main" is "the
hand" in French. When we worked on "interruption", I had to remind them
that it came from the Latin "inter" and "ruptare" [or whatever that root
is...] to help them remember the double R [kids up here all know about
ruptured pipes!]. In my opinion, having a second language would *help*,
vocabulary in the primary language, not hurt.

Julie
Mom to Erica & Chris, 07/97

Kim --

If you were satisfied with her first year, I would go for it.

Julie

"KimandJuan" wrote in message
...
I have enrolled my daughter in a public school that offers a Dual Language
Spanish/English class. Half the class is native Spanish speakers and half
is
native English speakers. The children are taught from preK-2 in Spanish
through out the day except for language arts, where they break into groups
which is taught in their native language. In 3-4 grade they are then
taught
the whole day in English except language arts is taught in the second
language.
I did have some concerns before enrolling her in the program but I
thought
that this year of preschool would be my trial year. I figured it was
worth it
even if the least she learns is a few Spanish words and develops her
social
skills. But now I am having to decide if I want to commit her to the
program
for the next 4 years. In theory I love the idea of her being Bilingual,
Biliterate and Bicultural. This is the projected goal of the students in
this
program. The children in programs like these have entered 5th grade not
only
being proficient in both languages but are actually ahead in English then
their
peers whom did not participate in the program. My main concern is that
our
program is only in its first year and I don't have much to compare it to.
I
was wondering if any of you have any such programs in your area or any
personal
experience with these programs. I want to make sure I am making the most
informed decision. For those of you that aren't familiar maybe you could
give
me some of your concerns, maybe they are things I haven't thought of.

Thanks,
~Kimberly
Mommy to Alexis Iliana 07/17/99 and
Emma Elidia & Aislyn Gabriela 10/01/02
come see us...
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aislynemma/

Kim --

If you were satisfied with her first year, I would go for it.

Julie

"KimandJuan" wrote in message
...
I have enrolled my daughter in a public school that offers a Dual Language
Spanish/English class. Half the class is native Spanish speakers and half
is
native English speakers. The children are taught from preK-2 in Spanish
through out the day except for language arts, where they break into groups
which is taught in their native language. In 3-4 grade they are then
taught
the whole day in English except language arts is taught in the second
language.
I did have some concerns before enrolling her in the program but I
thought
that this year of preschool would be my trial year. I figured it was
worth it
even if the least she learns is a few Spanish words and develops her
social
skills. But now I am having to decide if I want to commit her to the
program
for the next 4 years. In theory I love the idea of her being Bilingual,
Biliterate and Bicultural. This is the projected goal of the students in
this
program. The children in programs like these have entered 5th grade not
only
being proficient in both languages but are actually ahead in English then
their
peers whom did not participate in the program. My main concern is that
our
program is only in its first year and I don't have much to compare it to.
I
was wondering if any of you have any such programs in your area or any
personal
experience with these programs. I want to make sure I am making the most
informed decision. For those of you that aren't familiar maybe you could
give
me some of your concerns, maybe they are things I haven't thought of.

Thanks,
~Kimberly
Mommy to Alexis Iliana 07/17/99 and
Emma Elidia & Aislyn Gabriela 10/01/02
come see us...
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aislynemma/

Thank you all so much for responding. I am somewhat conflicted while making my
decision. I am on board with the concept of the program. My hesitation lies
in the fact that ours is a new program and I hate for Alexis to be a guinea
pig.
However, I am leaning more towards it. Relying on the fact that ultimately
Juan and I are responsible for her education in the end, whether it be in a
traditional setting or the dual language classroom.
Missy, you pointed out everything that I have been going over in my head,
thanks for the reassurance.


~Kimberly
Mommy to Alexis Iliana 07/17/99 and
Emma Elidia & Aislyn Gabriela 10/01/02
come see us...
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/aislynemma/