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Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda
In , David Wright wrote:
In article , Jeff Utz wrote: The fact that vaccines have almost eliminated polio and completely eliminated disease from smallpox is well-known. See the WHO documents about smallpox. The decrease in polio is described in recent issues of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report from the CDC. There is no evidence that giving vaccines to kids who are malnourished is harmful. In fact, kids who are malnourished are going to be the ones who are going to be sickest from the illness that the vaccines prevent. How true, how true. In malnourished populations, measles can have a 10% mortality rate. Malnourishment isn't even required. Without modern supportive care and antibiotics, it had nearly that high a case mortality in the United States prior to the 1930s. (Oxygen made a big difference, then antibiotics.) -- | Microsoft: "A reputation for releasing inferior software will make | | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay | | for new products or new versions of existing products." | end |
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Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda
Carole wrote:
What finally made me lean towards anti-vaccination is partly because the conventional system flogs it so relentlessly. As society is fighting against murderers heftily, you of course would declare murder a must to have. How insane can people behave!? |
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Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda
I've been following the vaccination argument for quite a while and
sitting on the fence, not knowing which way to jump. What finally made me lean towards anti-vaccination is partly because the conventional system flogs it so relentlessly. If vaccination did actually improve a person's health it follows that conventional medicine has actually got something right. Why would they have just ONE THING right and the rest wrong? It doesn't add up. Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/allopathy.htm |
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Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda
"Carole" wrote in message news:
I've been following the vaccination argument for quite a while and sitting on the fence, not knowing which way to jump. What finally made me lean towards anti-vaccination is partly because the conventional system flogs it so relentlessly. If vaccination did actually improve a person's health it follows that conventional medicine has actually got something right. Why would they have just ONE THING right and the rest wrong? It doesn't add up. Conventional medicine only got ONE thing right? Carole, what would you do if you broke your leg? Sliced your scalp open? Were bitten by a rabid animal or a poisonous snake? moo |
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Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda
"Happy Dog" wrote in message
.. . "Carole" wrote in message news: I've been following the vaccination argument for quite a while and sitting on the fence, not knowing which way to jump. What finally made me lean towards anti-vaccination is partly because the conventional system flogs it so relentlessly. If vaccination did actually improve a person's health it follows that conventional medicine has actually got something right. Why would they have just ONE THING right and the rest wrong? It doesn't add up. Conventional medicine only got ONE thing right? Carole, what would you do if you broke your leg? Sliced your scalp open? Were bitten by a rabid animal or a poisonous snake? moo Or came down with a delusional disorder? ;o) Earle |
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Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda
Once again I will say it but there isn't much hope for people that
closed-minded and blinded by the masses. You, sir, are brainwashed. Ther is more proof that vaccines have not cured polio. Europe never had a vacciination programme and how many polio cases do you see there? Open your mind. Leave the pharm giants behind or it that the problem? ...a vested interest? After the vaccine for polio was created , why did they have to redefine what having polio meant? Why did the polio statistics only go down after the redefinition? Why did Salk admit his vaccine caused two thirds of the deaths from polio? "Jeff Utz" wrote in message ... "Gymmie Bob" wrote in message ... You are very brainwashed sir. I would like to know what you base your assumptions on. The fact that vaccines have almost eliminated polio and completely eliminated disease from smallpox is well-known. See the WHO documents about smallpox. The decrease in polio is described in recent issues of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report from the CDC. There is no evidence that giving vaccines to kids who are malnourished is harmful. In fact, kids who are malnourished are going to be the ones who are going to be sickest from the illness that the vaccines prevent. Jeff (...) |
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Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda
"Carole" wrote in message m... I've been following the vaccination argument for quite a while and sitting on the fence, not knowing which way to jump. What finally made me lean towards anti-vaccination is partly because the conventional system flogs it so relentlessly. Vaccination prevents disease. How many cases of smallpox and polio have been reported in the US in the last year? None. The rate of other preventable diseases, like chicken pox (which kills about 50 people a year in the US), invasive pneumococcal disease, Hib menigitis, measles, which has a fatality rate of about 1 in 1000, and rubella, which used to be a leading cause of birth defects, are all markedly down, as is the cost of these illness in terms of sickness and death. If vaccination did actually improve a person's health it follows that conventional medicine has actually got something right. Yeah, it does. Conventional medicine saves about 1/2 of all people with cancer and about 70-75% of kids with cancer. It does wonders in saving lives of people who have had heart attacks or have been injured. It is able to replace diseased organs. It can prevent damage when blood supply is cut off from the brain (stroke). Why would they have just ONE THING right and the rest wrong? It doesn't add up. Medicine is not perfect. Way too many people die from cancer (about 1/2). Every treatment has side effects. People wait too long in doctors' offices. Too many people in the US don't have insurance. But it is better than any alternative medicine, because it is based on science and has been shown to work. Carole http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/allopathy.htm The website is incorrect. I support chelation which has not been shown to help anything, except acute heavy metal poisoning. In addition, the references include whale.to, the biggest medical joke site in the world (the author of the whale to site clearly has no clue about medicine, vaccines or science). The only proof these website offer to support their opinion that their form of treatment is of any medical value is tenacity: If they say it enough, they must be right. Jeff |
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Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda
Where is the proof that vaccines prvent diseases? That's a bunch of crap and
you saying it repeatedlyt doesn't make it true. Most of the stuff helping people from the medical society is old news from the alternative medicine world. I remember doctors telling people that dairy was necesary in their diets and those fanatics shouldn't be listenned to because of no scientific proof. I remember scientists laughing at the "earth people" and hippies when they talk about the CFCs punching holes in the atmosphere. Who did you think started the fear of vaccines? Alternative medicine people based on the medical society's testing and reports that the chem/cut profession doesn't pay attention to until half their patients are gone. Then they decide to go with the crowd somewhat for fear of losing respect from their patients. Vaccines have been exposed a an outright lie by many people, professional medical people, people from their own profession. Most chem/cut doctors only preach through ignorance from the literature and free samples they are given by guess who. "Jeff Utz" wrote in message ... Vaccination prevents disease. How many cases of smallpox and polio have been reported in the US in the last year? None. The rate of other preventable diseases, like chicken pox (which kills about 50 people a year in the US), invasive pneumococcal disease, Hib menigitis, measles, which has a fatality rate of about 1 in 1000, and rubella, which used to be a leading cause of birth defects, are all markedly down, as is the cost of these illness in terms of sickness and death. The website is incorrect. I support chelation which has not been shown to help anything, except acute heavy metal poisoning. In addition, the references include whale.to, the biggest medical joke site in the world (the author of the whale to site clearly has no clue about medicine, vaccines or science). The only proof these website offer to support their opinion that their form of treatment is of any medical value is tenacity: If they say it enough, they must be right. Jeff |
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Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda
"Gymmie Bob" wrote in message ... Once again I will say it but there isn't much hope for people that closed-minded and blinded by the masses. You, sir, are brainwashed. Ther is more proof that vaccines have not cured polio. Europe never had a vacciination programme and how many polio cases do you see there? Really? Please support your contentiont that there was no vaccination programs in Europe. Open your mind. Leave the pharm giants behind or it that the problem? ...a vested interest? I don't have any vested interests in pharmaceutical companies. I get no money from them in any way. After the vaccine for polio was created , why did they have to redefine what having polio meant? Because a lot of illnesses that were not caused by the polio virus were included in the statistics. So they wanted to make sure that they got every case of illness caused by the virus, but not other illnesses. Remember, it was not until the 50s that we had microscoped that can see the virus. So this reflects an effort to do a better job at seperating illness caused by this virus from other illnesses as well as a better understanding of hte disease. Why did the polio statistics only go down after the redefinition? Because a lot illnesses that were not polio were included in the definition. Why did Salk admit his vaccine caused two thirds of the deaths from polio? First I heard of it. Reference please. Jeff "Jeff Utz" wrote in message ... "Gymmie Bob" wrote in message ... You are very brainwashed sir. I would like to know what you base your assumptions on. The fact that vaccines have almost eliminated polio and completely eliminated disease from smallpox is well-known. See the WHO documents about smallpox. The decrease in polio is described in recent issues of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report from the CDC. There is no evidence that giving vaccines to kids who are malnourished is harmful. In fact, kids who are malnourished are going to be the ones who are going to be sickest from the illness that the vaccines prevent. Jeff (...) |
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Polio vaccine genocide in Uganda
"Gymmie Bob" wrote in message ... Where is the proof that vaccines prvent diseases? That's a bunch of crap and you saying it repeatedlyt doesn't make it true. What kind of proof would you accept? Seen any smallpox lately? |
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