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Trouble potty training
Hello,
We have a five year old son who is still not fully potty trained. We believe that this is an emotional problem caused by the fact that I was living far away from home for about 18 months while I looked for a job and a house to buy while they stayed behind. This happened when he was about 2.5 years old. He will urinate in public restrooms and in our toilet 99% of the time. In the last three months however, we have only been able to get him to poop in the toilet twice. He will have a daytime accident about every 7 to 10 days. The rest of the time he seems to be on some strange internal clock where he only will go at night in his sleep every other day. We have tried high fiber diets, laxatives, etc. The only thing that manages to accomplish is that he is VERY messy the next day and needs a very thorough cleaning in the morning. He says he is not afraid of the toilet, and that he wants to do it. He tells he will start using the potty, and that he will quit having accidents. We are totally at wit's end here. He is entirely too old to still be wearing pullups and having these problems. We have tried everything we can think of to convince him that this is a good thing. As a teacher, I know that potty-training is directly tied to emotional growth and maturity, and I am aware of the fact he has some issues, which we are working on. But I'm about ready to lose it with this potty training nonsense. If you have ANY advice at all, or have had a similar experience, PLEASE contact me and let me know! We are desperate to help our son. I am positive that if we can accomplish this, the other problems he has will be much easier to work on. Thanks. You can email me directly if you like, at one of two addresses below. loctavius(at)gmail.com loctavius(at)earthlink.net |
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Ok, have you got him checked out by a doctor? Maybe it's not so much
willpower that he needs but something else? Not yet. School is aware of it, as he is somewhat behind in his speech/ reading/emotional areas and is in a special ed class for a while to help with that. I don't know what other issues he has, but for what it's worth my son has a perception/sensory problem (I don't know the proper english term. Nope, nothing of the sort for my son. Is he scared of the dark? Does he get up at night to pee? Does he have nightmares that make him scared to get out of bed at night? Are you sure he poops in his sleep, have you actually seen it happen? Is he a very deep sleeper and maybe doesn't realize he's not dreaming of going to the toilet but pooping in bed? Not scared of the dark, goes right to sleep as long as he has his favoite blanket and pillow, does not wake up, has no nightmares as long as we carefully monitor what he watches at night. He does not wake up, he does this in his sleep (he is a very deep sleeper and hard to wake) who wakes up later or we find out in the morning what has happened. - take him to the toilet before putting him to bed? I don't know how well that would work though. Says he does not have to go. - remind/ask him if he needs to go potty throughout the day (not every 5 minutes though, more like after/before meals maybe) We are doing this roughly every hour or so. - don't threaten him with concequences for his nighttime accidents, but don't make the cleanup the nices part of the day either. (deal with it matter of factly, no fussing no babying, just take him to the bathroom, give him a shower, put fresh clothes on without going on about the accident. It's already happened and you can't undo it.) We are frustrated, and he knows it, but he is not being punished or threatened for this. If I have any other ideas I'll let you know... cu nicole |
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He will urinate in public restrooms and in our toilet 99% of the time. In the last three months however, we have only been able to get him to poop in the toilet twice. He will have a daytime accident about every 7 to 10 days. The rest of the time he seems to be on some strange internal clock where he only will go at night in his sleep every other day. We have tried high fiber diets, laxatives, etc. The only thing that manages to accomplish is that he is VERY messy the next day and needs a very thorough cleaning in the morning. He says he is not afraid of the toilet, and that he wants to do it. He tells he will start using the potty, and that he will quit having accidents. Are you sure it's not the laxatives that have actually caused the problem? A friend had this problem with her twins, they both at various times were struggling with constipation, so the doctor prescribed laxatives and they suddenly started having poo accidents, fortunately she realised fast an no long term harm was done. I would definitely take him to the doctors, pooping whilst asleep doesn't sound normal to me, at least my kids have never done it right from birth, they were awake or feeding when they pooped. Anne |
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On May 26, 12:40 pm, wrote:
He will urinate in public restrooms and in our toilet 99% of the time. In the last three months however, we have only been able to get him to poop in the toilet twice. He will have a daytime accident about every 7 to 10 days. The rest of the time he seems to be on some strange internal clock where he only will go at night in his sleep every other day. We have tried high fiber diets, laxatives, etc. The only thing that manages to accomplish is that he is VERY messy the next day and needs a very thorough cleaning in the morning. He says he is not afraid of the toilet, and that he wants to do it. He tells he will start using the potty, and that he will quit having accidents. I'm going to join the chorus of people saying to get him checked by the doctor. Even with regular stools you can still have constipation, if it's either small hard stools that aren't fully clearing out the rectum or if it's liquid feces leaking past an impacted ball of stool. The latter (encopresis) is not uncommon in kids with emotional issues. They hold onto their poop until they get a hard impacted ball of stool and eventually start getting involuntary leakage of stool around it. It can look like diarrhea because the leakage is liquid, but really it's constipation and stool withholding. They often no longer sense the need to go because the rectum has gotten distended and loose from being overfull. It usually needs somewhat close medical follow-up until the child is "cleaned out", as you can't really make any progress or start a bowel regimen until then. Pooping in sleep is highly unusual in a kid this age and makes me more suspicious of encopresis. But no one can make that diagnosis over the internet. He needs to see his doctor specifically about the pooping issue. Kate, ignorant foot soldier of the medical cartel (a pediatrician) and the Bug, almost 4 years old |
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