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Bedtime destruction-Xpost
"Kender" wrote in message news:hp_Va.23984$YN5.21442@sccrnsc01... It's funny but I feel bad putting the window AC in our room and letting the kids suffer. Who do I choose? Do you pull the air in during the day or push it out with your industrial fan? We close everything up at 8am and open it all at 8pm. I grew up without AC but it's just so much more uncomfortable when you get older. I just tell myself I'm sweating off the pounds! : ) -- Erin Morgan and Megan 2/15/97 Evan 5/14/00 Hi there - why can't your son sleep in your room while it's hot? That way, everyone wins, and no-one feels guilty. We have 1 A/C unit in our house, downstairs in the LR...and DH, DD & I all sleep down here when it's hot & nasty out. HTH, Corinne |
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BUT DARLINK, ALL IS NOT LOST!!!! For yes, it is I, returned :-)
Can't add much to all this though -- we quit naps when PT complete (at exactly 3) and went for quiet time with a video instead. [A friend of mine bribed hers with popcorn to make them sit still through at least part of the video, too, otherwise they just came and bothered her serially. Another friend found hers fell asleep on sofa during video 1-3 days a week and this was enough to replace formal nap.] If the new toys-in-the-bedroom thing is working for you (with or without a nap during that time), congrats. If not and he is regularly staying up so long in the evenings after finally napping, then I'd skip the nap and see how it all goes. You might need a 7pm bedtime for a few months, for example, or he might sleep in a bit if that's possible. I don't subscribe *at all* to the "boy creating destruction = something is deeply wrong in his psyche or life" theory, btw. I think he's just energetic, imaginative, bored and not sleepy. LMK how it's going. PS France was great ... but don't worry, same old same old re-established within 24 hours of return :-) Got back Monday night and the Three spent Wednesday morning forbidden to come downstairs ..... etc etc etc --Janet Elliot, Hanna, Connor (10/21/96) and Holly (4/4/01) - renamed "La tyrannie, c'est Moi", with acknowledgement to Louis XIV, for her *charming* behavior at every one of my precious few meals in Paris ... groan "Kender" wrote in message news:6VRVa.19701$Ho3.3797@sccrnsc03... Thanks so much for all your ideas and support. I've decided to give Evan back his books but no library books. I put some toys in there last night. Thanks Dorothy. Of course he doesn't need to earn them. I just got in a power struggle and didn't realize it. I put the girls dollhouse and accessories (he loves it, they are bored with it) and a fire truck and some puzzles. I need to work out a new situation for the fan. I'm not sure how. It was 100 degrees yesterday and his room has no good positioning for fans. Maybe we can build a shelf. I wish I could move his bed away from the windows but his room is really small, about 7 feet by 20 feet! It used to be an old sleeping porch back in 1913. The garbage bags may be needed on his windows but Evan's on the second floor! Bed knobs are staying off. I think I'll pass on the bullet or brandy suggestion. This all started when he was moved out of his crib in February. He has just gotten braver and more daring each day. It really got bad in May when he was potty trained and allowed to leave his room to use the bathroom. My girls were never like this! Maybe a ripped book or two but that was the extent of it. We had a doorknob cover on the inside of their room room but Evan figured out how to take his off right away, hence the lock on the outside. I think I will use this from time to time but I will try to not make it a habit. It's reassuring that some of you contain your kids too, just in different ways. Evan would definitely figure out a superyard. He's a climber. When he does fall asleep I can get two hours out of him. He already goes to bed at 7:30 so I can't imagine moving up his bedtime. Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. Keep them coming if you have any more and I will update you on how the toys go. Too bad Janet is in France. Her kids always seem to be into the same things as mine. I guess you're there too Ellen! -- Erin Morgan and Megan 2/15/97 Evan 5/14/00 "Kender" wrote in message news:wFGVa.15870$YN5.13898@sccrnsc01... HELP! My three year old is a terror at nap and bedtime. He used to be such a sweet child and now, holy cow. He's destroying his room. The only thing he has in there are windows, a bed, a bookcase, a dresser and two fans, as it is very hot here in the Pacific NW. In regards to the window: He has completely ripped his roller shades to bits. I think there's more duct tape on them then there is plastic left. He has ripped out the screen on one. (The screens are on the inside, old house!) He has broken his curtain rod several times. He has drawn on the molding around the windows by scratching with the metal prongs from the plug of his fan. Bookcase: He has pulled it over (small bookcase only 3 feet high). Don't worry it's now screwed to the wall. He has ripped ALL the pages out of 2 board books. One was a library book, sigh. He rips all books somewhat therefore no more books, just empty shelves screwed to the wall. Bed: He has round knobs on the 4 corners of his bed firmly glued in place, yet he has removed three of said knobs. He drew on the footboard of his bed with the above mentioned plug prongs. Dresser: For some reason the only problems we've had is him changing his clothes during nap. No real problem there. Fans: He keeps unplugging them and turning them off. They are plugged into an extension cord because the outlet is far away from the window (window fan). We had wrapped electrical tape around the plugs to keep them in the extension cord but as you can see from the drawings mentioned above he just unwrapped it. Remarkably there is a closet filled with stuff including my clothes and storage that he hasn't been in (to the best of my knowledge). I guess I should lock it as he's running out of damage to do. Also he keeps coming out of his room, at least 20 or more times every nap and bedtime. Tonight I finally put a lock on the outside of his door, but it made me feel really crappy. I don't like locking him in especially since he's so destructive. I take away privileges when he does something destructive to his room. I take away dessert after dinner, storytime before bed, or his fireman sheets that he likes come off the bed. I am running out of ideas since it's not working. Any suggestions welcome for either the destructive behavior or how to get him to stay in his room. I am considering putting toys in his room so he will have something else to focus on at quiet/nap time, but I am afraid of the damage he will be able to cause to/with them. I also feel this is a privilege he needs to earn. We have told him when he stops wrecking his room he can have toys up there but maybe it's too much to ask. Maybe the toys will keep him from wrecking things? He does actually take naps about three days a week and goes to bed after about an hour but it's definitely getting longer. Last night it was three hours before he fell asleep. Tonight we're at 1.5 hours. Thanks. -- Erin Morgan and Megan 2/15/97 Evan 5/14/00 |
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Bedtime destruction/Welcome back Janet
More will follow ... I just decided not to stay up late last night as I have
a day out on my own today (OK, a half day) and I want to enjoy it. :-) --Janet Elliot, Hanna, Connor (10/21/96) and Holly (4/4/01) "Julie Seely" wrote in message ... multimom4 wrote: BUT DARLINK, ALL IS NOT LOST!!!! For yes, it is I, returned :-) snip PS France was great ... but don't worry, same old same old re-established within 24 hours of return :-) Got back Monday night and the Three spent Wednesday morning forbidden to come downstairs ..... etc etc etc --Janet Elliot, Hanna, Connor (10/21/96) and Holly (4/4/01) - renamed "La tyrannie, c'est Moi", with acknowledgement to Louis XIV, for her *charming* behavior at every one of my precious few meals in Paris ... groan So, Janet, you leave us for over a month and this is ALL WE GET for a vacation report?????? Welcome back, anyway! Julie Mom to Erica & Chris, 07/97 |
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Bedtime destruction/Welcome back Janet
Thanks! I look forward to living vicariously through you (says she
whose dh's summer schedule is probably not going to allow for a summer trip...) Julie multimom4 wrote: More will follow ... I just decided not to stay up late last night as I have a day out on my own today (OK, a half day) and I want to enjoy it. :-) --Janet Elliot, Hanna, Connor (10/21/96) and Holly (4/4/01) "Julie Seely" wrote in message ... multimom4 wrote: BUT DARLINK, ALL IS NOT LOST!!!! For yes, it is I, returned :-) snip PS France was great ... but don't worry, same old same old re-established within 24 hours of return :-) Got back Monday night and the Three spent Wednesday morning forbidden to come downstairs ..... etc etc etc --Janet Elliot, Hanna, Connor (10/21/96) and Holly (4/4/01) - renamed "La tyrannie, c'est Moi", with acknowledgement to Louis XIV, for her *charming* behavior at every one of my precious few meals in Paris ... groan So, Janet, you leave us for over a month and this is ALL WE GET for a vacation report?????? Welcome back, anyway! Julie Mom to Erica & Chris, 07/97 |
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Bedtime destruction-Xpost deleted
"multimom4" wrote in message
news:Ok0Xa.36842$Oz4.10334@rwcrnsc54... BUT DARLINK, ALL IS NOT LOST!!!! For yes, it is I, returned :-) Yippee! Can't add much to all this though -- we quit naps when PT complete (at exactly 3) and went for quiet time with a video instead. [A friend of mine bribed hers with popcorn to make them sit still through at least part of the video, too, otherwise they just came and bothered her serially. Another friend found hers fell asleep on sofa during video 1-3 days a week and this was enough to replace formal nap.] If the new toys-in-the-bedroom thing is working for you (with or without a nap during that time), congrats. It working okay. If not and he is regularly staying up so long in the evenings after finally napping, then I'd skip the nap and see how it all goes. You might need a 7pm bedtime for a few months, for example, or he might sleep in a bit if that's possible. He already goes to bed at 7pm. I have early to bed, early to rise kids. I don't subscribe *at all* to the "boy creating destruction = something is deeply wrong in his psyche or life" theory, btw. I think he's just energetic, imaginative, bored and not sleepy. LMK how it's going. PS France was great ... but don't worry, same old same old re-established within 24 hours of return :-) Got back Monday night and the Three spent Wednesday morning forbidden to come downstairs ..... etc etc etc Chuckle. Welcome back. Can't wait to hear about your trip more! -- Erin Morgan and Megan 2/15/97 Evan 5/14/00 --Janet Elliot, Hanna, Connor (10/21/96) and Holly (4/4/01) - renamed "La tyrannie, c'est Moi", with acknowledgement to Louis XIV, for her *charming* behavior at every one of my precious few meals in Paris ... groan "Kender" wrote in message news:6VRVa.19701$Ho3.3797@sccrnsc03... Thanks so much for all your ideas and support. I've decided to give Evan back his books but no library books. I put some toys in there last night. Thanks Dorothy. Of course he doesn't need to earn them. I just got in a power struggle and didn't realize it. I put the girls dollhouse and accessories (he loves it, they are bored with it) and a fire truck and some puzzles. I need to work out a new situation for the fan. I'm not sure how. It was 100 degrees yesterday and his room has no good positioning for fans. Maybe we can build a shelf. I wish I could move his bed away from the windows but his room is really small, about 7 feet by 20 feet! It used to be an old sleeping porch back in 1913. The garbage bags may be needed on his windows but Evan's on the second floor! Bed knobs are staying off. I think I'll pass on the bullet or brandy suggestion. This all started when he was moved out of his crib in February. He has just gotten braver and more daring each day. It really got bad in May when he was potty trained and allowed to leave his room to use the bathroom. My girls were never like this! Maybe a ripped book or two but that was the extent of it. We had a doorknob cover on the inside of their room room but Evan figured out how to take his off right away, hence the lock on the outside. I think I will use this from time to time but I will try to not make it a habit. It's reassuring that some of you contain your kids too, just in different ways. Evan would definitely figure out a superyard. He's a climber. When he does fall asleep I can get two hours out of him. He already goes to bed at 7:30 so I can't imagine moving up his bedtime. Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. Keep them coming if you have any more and I will update you on how the toys go. Too bad Janet is in France. Her kids always seem to be into the same things as mine. I guess you're there too Ellen! -- Erin Morgan and Megan 2/15/97 Evan 5/14/00 "Kender" wrote in message news:wFGVa.15870$YN5.13898@sccrnsc01... HELP! My three year old is a terror at nap and bedtime. He used to be such a sweet child and now, holy cow. He's destroying his room. The only thing he has in there are windows, a bed, a bookcase, a dresser and two fans, as it is very hot here in the Pacific NW. In regards to the window: He has completely ripped his roller shades to bits. I think there's more duct tape on them then there is plastic left. He has ripped out the screen on one. (The screens are on the inside, old house!) He has broken his curtain rod several times. He has drawn on the molding around the windows by scratching with the metal prongs from the plug of his fan. Bookcase: He has pulled it over (small bookcase only 3 feet high). Don't worry it's now screwed to the wall. He has ripped ALL the pages out of 2 board books. One was a library book, sigh. He rips all books somewhat therefore no more books, just empty shelves screwed to the wall. Bed: He has round knobs on the 4 corners of his bed firmly glued in place, yet he has removed three of said knobs. He drew on the footboard of his bed with the above mentioned plug prongs. Dresser: For some reason the only problems we've had is him changing his clothes during nap. No real problem there. Fans: He keeps unplugging them and turning them off. They are plugged into an extension cord because the outlet is far away from the window (window fan). We had wrapped electrical tape around the plugs to keep them in the extension cord but as you can see from the drawings mentioned above he just unwrapped it. Remarkably there is a closet filled with stuff including my clothes and storage that he hasn't been in (to the best of my knowledge). I guess I should lock it as he's running out of damage to do. Also he keeps coming out of his room, at least 20 or more times every nap and bedtime. Tonight I finally put a lock on the outside of his door, but it made me feel really crappy. I don't like locking him in especially since he's so destructive. I take away privileges when he does something destructive to his room. I take away dessert after dinner, storytime before bed, or his fireman sheets that he likes come off the bed. I am running out of ideas since it's not working. Any suggestions welcome for either the destructive behavior or how to get him to stay in his room. I am considering putting toys in his room so he will have something else to focus on at quiet/nap time, but I am afraid of the damage he will be able to cause to/with them. I also feel this is a privilege he needs to earn. We have told him when he stops wrecking his room he can have toys up there but maybe it's too much to ask. Maybe the toys will keep him from wrecking things? He does actually take naps about three days a week and goes to bed after about an hour but it's definitely getting longer. Last night it was three hours before he fell asleep. Tonight we're at 1.5 hours. Thanks. -- Erin Morgan and Megan 2/15/97 Evan 5/14/00 |
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Bedtime destruction-Xpost
Kender writes:
My three year old is a terror at nap and bedtime. He used to be such a sweet child and now, holy cow. He's destroying his room. The only thing he has in there are windows, a bed, a bookcase, a dresser and two fans, as it is very hot here in the Pacific NW. If he's really only doing this at nap time, I think it's a reaction to being left alone and not really wanting to nap. You also say he only actually naps 3 days/week, so it's not doing a lot of good. I'm with those who would cut out the naps. (On the other hand, I'm also more willing to cut out or skip naps with my kids than my wife is---it's just a judgment call.) I'd try to arrange some sort of "quiet time" that he doesn't object to so much. We've never had any "destruction" issues, but we don't leave the room until they are asleep, and they usually scream for attention (or sometimes just come out) as soon as they wake up. David desJardins |
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