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Early Kindergarten or not?
My dd has a dd who was 4 in October, but she is a very capable, bright
and I think advanced 4 yo. She is quite big for her age, and very well coordinated. For example, she is one of the biggest on her soccer team even though they are 4 and 5 year olds and she's one of the youngest. She can swim, hit a tennis ball back to you, throw and catch a ball. She can swing across the monkey bars by herself. She is fearless and will go on any amusement ride that anyone will let her ride without any qualms before during or after. She has an excellent memory and can recite a story back to you if you have read it to her once (turning the pages at appropriate places). A man gave a talk to her class and asked questions afterwards, and she knew the answer to every question. She knows all the teachers in the school and greets and converses with them on her way in to her classroom. She amuses herself quite well - she goes to her older brother's ball games and plays happily. The problem is that the teacher of her 3 yo class thinks that the 4 yo class will be a waste of time for her, and she's asked my dd whether she shouldn't be in Kindergarten next year instead of the 4 yo class. Her mom isn't really happy at that idea, although she thinks that her dd could do the work. Her mom (my dd) said that she was bored in school because she would 'get' things the first time they were presented, and she could usually listen the 2nd time, but by the 3rd and subsequent times she just couldn't understand why she had to sit through that stuff again. I suspect that this child will be the same. Also I'm afraid that with her excellent memory that she will not really learn to read, but will instead memorize what is written based on prior reading, and that no one will realize this and really teach her to read. So I think she's too young to be in a full day program, and I also think she's going to be bored in school regardless of when she starts. What would be the best? grandma Rosalie |
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... My dd has a dd who was 4 in October, but she is a very capable, bright and I think advanced 4 yo. She is quite big for her age, and very well coordinated. For example, she is one of the biggest on her soccer team even though they are 4 and 5 year olds and she's one of the youngest. She can swim, hit a tennis ball back to you, throw and catch a ball. She can swing across the monkey bars by herself. She is fearless and will go on any amusement ride that anyone will let her ride without any qualms before during or after. She has an excellent memory and can recite a story back to you if you have read it to her once (turning the pages at appropriate places). A man gave a talk to her class and asked questions afterwards, and she knew the answer to every question. She knows all the teachers in the school and greets and converses with them on her way in to her classroom. She amuses herself quite well - she goes to her older brother's ball games and plays happily. The problem is that the teacher of her 3 yo class thinks that the 4 yo class will be a waste of time for her, and she's asked my dd whether she shouldn't be in Kindergarten next year instead of the 4 yo class. Her mom isn't really happy at that idea, although she thinks that her dd could do the work. Her mom (my dd) said that she was bored in school because she would 'get' things the first time they were presented, and she could usually listen the 2nd time, but by the 3rd and subsequent times she just couldn't understand why she had to sit through that stuff again. I suspect that this child will be the same. Also I'm afraid that with her excellent memory that she will not really learn to read, but will instead memorize what is written based on prior reading, and that no one will realize this and really teach her to read. So I think she's too young to be in a full day program, and I also think she's going to be bored in school regardless of when she starts. What would be the best? grandma Rosalie I have a friend who had her child evaluated by an educational psychologist before making the decision to put her then 4yo into kindergarten. She's tall/big for her age and has done wonderfully, she's in my son's class (now 3rd grade). She does have some maturity issues but they may be more related to her ADHD. Most school systems won't let you just put a child in at 4 without some evaluation so calling the school might be the first step. They may have someone on staff that can do the evaluation (free!) or recommend someone in your area that has done other childrens' evaluations. Some private preschools offer half-day kindergarten classes and that might be an option, too, if you don't think she's ready for a full-day program. Leigh in raLeigh |
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Leigh ) wrote:
Most school systems won't let you just put a child in at 4 without some evaluation so calling the school might be the first step. It sounded as though this was a kindergarten class in the same school where she is? Not sure. Rosalie? Our district has already closed registration, by the way. I suppose you could still register (people move in all the time, of course), but some of the popular schools would be full, and I don't think you could get a child in Early Entrance at all if you missed the deadlines, though I've never done it so am not sure of the details. Half-day classes often don't fill though (another benefit, they usually have smaller classes). The rules are different everywhere, I'm just giving ours as an example. --Helen |
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"Leigh Menconi" wrote in message k.net... "Rosalie B." wrote in message ... Most school systems won't let you just put a child in at 4 without some evaluation so calling the school might be the first step. This is highly dependant on where you live. Here in CT, children are eligible to start Kindergarten in September as long as they turn 5 by January 1. In other words, for this coming school year (2004-2005), any child born on or before January 1st, 2000 is eligible to enter Kindergarten in September. |
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Rosalie B. wrote:
I suspect that this child will be the same. Also I'm afraid that with her excellent memory that she will not really learn to read, but will instead memorize what is written based on prior reading, and that no one will realize this and really teach her to read. At our school, they evaluate what "level" the child is at in reading by having them sight read a new book (and my children never did one that we had checked out from the library or seen elsewhere) and they were graded on the number of words correct and their ability to retell the story. I don't think a child would be likely to beat this system. So I think she's too young to be in a full day program, and I also think she's going to be bored in school regardless of when she starts. When is the cut-off where dgd is? My children both started K at 4, since we have a fall cutoff. A full day was tough, but both ended up doing very well. Something to consider for the future may be how much younger she may end up being - if she is too far past the cutoff, with redshirting and retentions, she could be a lot younger down the road than she is the first day of K. Lesley What would be the best? grandma Rosalie |
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On 25 Mar 2004 16:50:27 -0800, (valerie) wrote:
(H Schinske) wrote in message ... wrote: snip My August-born son has done just fine in kindergarten, no problems at all with social skills, fine motor, any of that. Half-day might well have been a little better for him (but worse for me!), because he does still sometimes nap in the afternoon. Is a half-day kindergarten not available? Your granddaughter would be only about two months younger, and she's a girl, and sounds if anything more advanced than he was. I always find this debate about age and when to start kindergarten a prime example of geography dictating how you perceive things. Much of the North East USA have cut off dates for *making* kindergarten in December. Here it is typically those born by Dec. 1, 1999 for the upcoming year. In NYC all children born in the calendar year of 1999 will be eligible to enter this September. So here the OP grandchild would automatically be able to enter. I don't see a Northeast bias in my data. Table 1 Date by Which Child Must Turn Five Years to Enter Kindergarten Date Number of States June 1 1 July 1 1 August 1 1 August 15 1 August 31/September 1 22 September 10-15 4 September 30/October 1 6 December 1-2 4 December 31/January 1 5 LEA Option 5 The three states where the December 1 cutoff remains are New York, California, Michigan and Montana. The 5 states where the December 31st date is used are Connecticut, Hawaii, Rhode Island, some districts in Lousiana, some districts in Massachusetts. Also note that Kindergarten is not mandatory in several states States where Kindergarten is not mandatory currently (as of 2002) Alabama California Colorado Connecticut Florida (sort of) Hawaii Illinois Indiana Iowa Michigan Mississippi Missouri New York Pennsylvania South Dakota Texas Virginia Washington Wyoming -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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I should have mentioned that my granddaughter is not in public school - this will be a parental decision supported by her current teacher, and not a school system decision. Also the half day kindergarten is not available at this school. If it was, I'd go with kindergarten next year in a heartbeat. My reasons for not putting her into kindergarten are that I don't think she is ready to sit still for a full day yet. Also it will completely screw up her mom's after-care arrangements which she has got nicely worked out now. "Leigh Menconi" wrote: "Rosalie B." wrote in message .. . My dd has a dd who was 4 in October, but she is a very capable, bright and I think advanced 4 yo. She is quite big for her age, and very well coordinated. snip So I think she's too young to be in a full day program, and I also think she's going to be bored in school regardless of when she starts. What would be the best? grandma Rosalie I have a friend who had her child evaluated by an educational psychologist before making the decision to put her then 4yo into kindergarten. She's tall/big for her age and has done wonderfully, she's in my son's class (now 3rd grade). She does have some maturity issues but they may be more related to her ADHD. Most school systems won't let you just put a child in at 4 without some evaluation so calling the school might be the first step. They may have someone on staff that can do the evaluation (free!) or recommend someone in your area that has done other childrens' evaluations. Some private preschools offer half-day kindergarten classes and that might be an option, too, if you don't think she's ready for a full-day program. Leigh in raLeigh grandma Rosalie |
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