Meth hype exposed as fraud

Just to throw in two cents from someone who operates in the space...

IdentityTheft is very frequently committed by Meth Users. In fact,
meth (and Meth-type drugs) gives them the ability to sit awake for
extended period of time.

Why is this beneficial?

If you're not cross-cut shredding, they can focus long enough to paste/
tape back together whatever you have shredded.

May seem crazy, but it happens.

Meth use may or may not be on the rise (I'm no expert on the subject),
but there is little doubt that meth users are more likely to commit
Identity Theft (by a large percentage) via rummaging through someone's
trash or breaking in to companies/homes, than the average criminal.

Again, just my two cents.

Jonathan
www.IdentityTheftSecrets.com






On Jun 3, 9:47 am, "0:-]" wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 23:59:20 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

..."I'm so stupid I don't recognize the liberal opposition
newspaper"....

Greg, I used to pick up the WW regularly.

Just for the contrast. This is the infamous Liberal, and I'm talking
extreme, opponent of the Oregonian.

This is a near tabloid rag, with three pages of Sex ads, gross ones,
in the back. Everything from "Leather Boy seeks pretty boy for
Watersports," to "Clean Wt Cpl Looking for Maid Costume Sissyboy for
Weekend Play," "Gorgeous endowed Ms. Trannie Seeks Same for long term
mutually beneficial relationship."

Now let's take a look at this, and I'll tell what is factually true
that I know, and what is logically very likely, and what is
INTERPRETIVE BULL**** FROM A LIBERAL RAG.

http://www.wweek.com/editorial/3220/7368/
Willamette Week Online Saturday, June 2nd, 2007

Meth Madness
How The Oregonian manufactured an epidemic, politicians bought it and
you're paying.

In 2003, 35 percent of the people arrested for property crimes in
Multnomah County tested positive for methamphetamine. About 37 percent
of those charged with violent crimes tested positive for the rage-
inducing super drug marijuana.

In otherwords, this above is one odd way to lead off with a claim that
the Oregonian was doing a hype. Notice that last sentence. Amost
exactly the same for what is a recreational and in Oregon A
PRESCRIBABLE medication. People can get a chit to grow a limited
number of plants for their own medical use with a Dr. Rx.

Note the attempt to compare property crimes to violent crimes to
minimize violent crimes. That IS a 'Liberal' interpretation of
reality.

Since police make an arrest in only about 15 percent of property
crimes, criminologists say it's difficult to draw conclusions about
perpetrators or their motivations based on arrest alone.

Excuse me? They don't have to "make and arrest" to collect evidence
that can be used for DATA collection purposes.

Any cop I talk to, from big city to little hick towns flat OUT label
meth the worst drug program they've ever seen...old timers that have
been through the whole gamit if the drug scene.

In April 2005, The Oregonian published a story on the so-called "meth
tax," a calculation by economists that said every Multnomah County
household paid an extra $363 for losses including $88.4 million in
stolen property and $6.1 million to care for the meth orphans in
foster care. The stats are misleading, however, because they rely on
the O's faulty statistics linking the drug with crime and child
abuse.

R R R R....bull****. They got their stats from POLICE, primarily.

Steve Suo's reporting did a good job revealing the ties between
overseas pharmaceutical factories and the mega-labs in California and
Mexico that convert over-the-counter cold medication into the potent
street drug. Suo makes the case for stemming rates of addiction by
imposing restrictions on factories that produce meth's precursor
ingredients.

This is correct. Why would the Oregonian's Steve Suo be so accurate in
his journalism on this issue but mistaken or deliberately misleading,
as the WW is trying to claim?

Suo has NO ties to any possibility of taking a profit from any aspect
of possible meth hype. He's simply a good journalist.

Drug-abuse experts stress that property crimes have long been
associated with drug use. While crooks' drug of choice may change from
time to time, they say, the central problem is still that desperate
people do desperate things.

In fact FBI stats exist that shows a particular class of property
crimes has become the primary source of meth money (outside of the
actual meth market) and it's NOT property crime. It'sIdentityTheft.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...22+amphetamine....
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investment in hyping meth fraudulently? R R R RR R ..yer dumb as a
stump, Greg, and so is your buddy switching socks. ]]]

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There is little evidence that the total number of illicit drug users
is on the rise.

Why does this author keep referring to "drugs" when meth is the issue?

So she can skirt the truth, like so many from the Left tend to do.
This isn't just a liberal rag, in fact I insult Liberals by claiming
that. It's a LEFTY RAG and that's a fact.

Always has been since it's beginnings in the early 70's.



BY ANGELA VALDEZ | avaldez at wweek dot com
[March 22nd, 2006]

Before you get carried away, Greg, with swallowing leftist swill have
a gander at the WW itself, not just this one part.

http://www.willametteweek.com/

Note the "matchmaker" section on the right of the FRONT PAGE. You and
your butt buddy are using a source that provides matching services for
homosexuals ... among others ... some very kinky stuff.

A gay columnists keeps Oregon's alternative community UP on what's hot
and what's not on the gay scene.

See if you can get a copy of it and actually read it. What suckers you
anti government little ****ants are.

So, Greg, you and your sock model ready now to tell us how VALID this
particular sources is? You'll fly with it as reliable and ethical, and
R R R R R R moral by your standards, eh?

Personally I LIKE WW, but not for any other reason than it can lend
balance...the Oregonian leans right.

And from time to time WW does very good stories on political
issues...even if the viewpoint is from the left.

What I find charmingly funny about BOTH media sources from Oregon is
that they attempt to appear as "middle" politically, from time to
time, to create credibility. Doesn't fool anyone from Oregon. 0:]

So if you or Jason/et al are looking for a tranny for a threesome,
just hop on out to Oregon and pick up a copy (IT'S A THROWAWAY
FREEBIE, BY THE WAY) at the more alternative establishments, and have
yourself a party, stupid.



Editor's Note: The Oregonian initially cooperated with Willamette
Week's investigation of the daily paper's reporting on meth. Reporter
Steve Suo made himself available for interviews and shared information
on several occasions. Editor Tom Maurer provided written answers to
several early questions. Last week, when WW sought additional
responses from editors and another reporter, Joseph Rose, Maurer said
the paper had decided to stop cooperating.
Over the past year and a half, The Oregonian has dedicated itself to
exposing the rise of methamphetamine addiction. Beginning with its
five-part series "Unnecessary Epidemic" in October 2004 and continuing
through this month, reporters have hunted down the causes of the
outbreak, revealing a web of international suppliers and offering
solutions that previously languished because of a lack of political
will.

Devoting at least 261 stories to the subject in the past year and a
half, The Oregonian's ongoing investigation is an example of what can
happen when a newspaper decides to lead a campaign against a social
ill. In part because of the daily's

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Meth is really really bad.
The cost of cleanups is a problem.

The one thing worse than Meth is government agencies
exaggerating the problem in order to obtain BILLIONS of
dollars worth of extra funding.


In the 1950's the Commie/USSR threat was really really bad.

McCarthy's RED SCARE WITCH HUNTS were worse.


Terrorists are really really bad.
Telling LIES about WMD's was bad.

Stopping terrorists is good.

Announcing a YEAR OLD STORY of some incredibly stupid
terrorists who thought they could light a fuel oil pipeline by JFK
with a match in the midst of an Attorney General scandal is
more about political fortunes and less about an actual THREAT.

Large Government agencies all want to exaggerate
their own importance for political security or FUNDING reasons.

Eisenhower warned of the Industrial-Military complex
becoming a threat to our country from the inside.

It has become worse than that and other "complexes"
have emerged as posing a similar threat of preventing
the US Constitution from prevailing.

The Child Protection INDUSTRY throughout the USA
depends on Federal Money running state Dependancy
Court systems which use a "burden of proof" and
rules of evidence that are NOT up to the Constitutional
requirements for LIBERTY INTEREST cases.
Removal of children is done using ""Preponderance""
as the burden of proof. The higher "Clear and Convincing"
standard is called for by the US Bill Of Rights where
a LIBERTY INTEREST (like removing kids from their homes)
hinges on the decision.

Despite this well defined requirement in the B.O.R.
portion of the US Constitution, most states have
state laws and entire Dependancy court systems that
use the ""preponderance"" burden of proof standard.

The Child Protection COMPLEX wants endless numbers
of children and more Federal FUNDING so they use a
LOW legal standard to get the kids into the system.

Based on this "burden of proof" problem, most
states Dependancy (Child Abuse Court) SYSTEMATICALLY
violates citizens rights to DUE PROCESS.


Child Abuse is bad.

Calling every trivial discomfort "Child Abuse" is worse.
Operating a whole SERIES of Dependancy Courts
using an UNCONSTITUTIONAL ""preponderance""
standard is a conspiracy to violate the Civil Rights
of massive numbers of citizens. That's REALLY BAD.



On Jun 4, 9:42 am, "0:-]" wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:53:32 -0700, wrote:
Just to throw in two cents from someone who operates in the space...

Thanks, Jonathan.

Your comments from the real world are welcome. You may notice, if
you've lurked long here, that the deniers are operating from their
little theoretical world cobbled together out of extreme bias FAVORING
criminal activity...though they will deny that.

They seem quite unable to grasp what it means to live in the real
world, and blithely ignore the words of those that are closer to the
issues.

In fact, they attempt to minimize by claiming we have an investment in
there seeming to be a problem that there is not.

Misreading history, misreading data, and misreading reality by
retreating from it.

Kane





IdentityTheft is very frequently committed by Meth Users. In fact,
meth (and Meth-type drugs) gives them the ability to sit awake for
extended period of time.

Why is this beneficial?

If you're not cross-cut shredding, they can focus long enough to paste/
tape back together whatever you have shredded.

May seem crazy, but it happens.

Meth use may or may not be on the rise (I'm no expert on the subject),
but there is little doubt that meth users are more likely to commit
Identity Theft (by a large percentage) via rummaging through someone's
trash or breaking in to companies/homes, than the average criminal.

Again, just my two cents.

Jonathan
www.IdentityTheftSecrets.com

On Jun 3, 9:47 am, "0:-]" wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jun 2007 23:59:20 -0700, Greegor
wrote:

..."I'm so stupid I don't recognize the liberal opposition
newspaper"....

Greg, I used to pick up the WW regularly.

Just for the contrast. This is the infamous Liberal, and I'm talking
extreme, opponent of the Oregonian.

This is a near tabloid rag, with three pages of Sex ads, gross ones,
in the back. Everything from "Leather Boy seeks pretty boy for
Watersports," to "Clean Wt Cpl Looking for Maid Costume Sissyboy for
Weekend Play," "Gorgeous endowed Ms. Trannie Seeks Same for long term
mutually beneficial relationship."

Now let's take a look at this, and I'll tell what is factually true
that I know, and what is logically very likely, and what is
INTERPRETIVE BULL**** FROM A LIBERAL RAG.

http://www.wweek.com/editorial/3220/7368/
Willamette Week Online Saturday, June 2nd, 2007

Meth Madness
How The Oregonian manufactured an epidemic, politicians bought it and
you're paying.

In 2003, 35 percent of the people arrested for property crimes in
Multnomah County tested positive for methamphetamine. About 37 percent
of those charged with violent crimes tested positive for the rage-
inducing super drug marijuana.

In otherwords, this above is one odd way to lead off with a claim that
the Oregonian was doing a hype. Notice that last sentence. Amost
exactly the same for what is a recreational and in Oregon A
PRESCRIBABLE medication. People can get a chit to grow a limited
number of plants for their own medical use with a Dr. Rx.

Note the attempt to compare property crimes to violent crimes to
minimize violent crimes. That IS a 'Liberal' interpretation of
reality.

Since police make an arrest in only about 15 percent of property
crimes, criminologists say it's difficult to draw conclusions about
perpetrators or their motivations based on arrest alone.

Excuse me? They don't have to "make and arrest" to collect evidence
that can be used for DATA collection purposes.

Any cop I talk to, from big city to little hick towns flat OUT label
meth the worst drug program they've ever seen...old timers that have
been through the whole gamit if the drug scene.

In April 2005, The Oregonian published a story on the so-called "meth
tax," a calculation by economists that said every Multnomah County
household paid an extra $363 for losses including $88.4 million in
stolen property and $6.1 million to care for the meth orphans in
foster care. The stats are misleading, however, because they rely on
the O's faulty statistics linking the drug with crime and child
abuse.

R R R R....bull****. They got their stats from POLICE, primarily.

Steve Suo's reporting did a good job revealing the ties between
overseas pharmaceutical factories and the mega-labs in California and
Mexico that convert over-the-counter cold medication into the potent
street drug. Suo makes the case for stemming rates of addiction by
imposing restrictions on factories that produce meth's precursor
ingredients.

This is correct. Why would the Oregonian's Steve Suo be so accurate in
his journalism on this issue but mistaken or deliberately misleading,
as the WW is trying to claim?

Suo has NO ties to any possibility of taking a profit from any aspect
of possible meth hype. He's simply a good journalist.

Drug-abuse experts stress that property crimes have long been
associated with drug use. While crooks' drug of choice may change from
time to time, they say, the central problem is still that desperate
people do desperate things.

In fact FBI stats exist that shows a particular class of property
crimes has become the primary source of meth money (outside of the
actual meth market) and it's NOT property crime. It'sIdentityTheft.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...22+amphetamine...
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[[[ Do you, for instance, think that "Consumer Affairs" has an
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There is little evidence that the total number of illicit drug users
is on the rise.

Why does this author keep referring to "drugs" when meth is the issue?

So she can skirt the truth, like so many from the Left tend to do.
This isn't just a liberal rag, in fact I insult Liberals by claiming
that. It's a LEFTY RAG and that's a fact.

Always has been since it's beginnings in the early 70's.

BY ANGELA VALDEZ | avaldez at wweek dot com
[March 22nd, 2006]

Before you get carried away, Greg, with swallowing leftist swill have
a gander at the WW itself, not just this one part.

http://www.willametteweek.com/

Note the "matchmaker" section on the right of the FRONT PAGE. You and
your butt buddy are using a source that provides matching services for
homosexuals ... among others ... some very kinky stuff.

A gay columnists keeps Oregon's alternative community UP on what's hot
and what's not on the gay scene.

See if you can get a copy of it and actually read it. What suckers you
anti government little ****ants are.

So, Greg, you and your sock model ready now to

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