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Where are my weapons of math instruction now that I need them??? LOL!
Grandma Katie Oh, oh, oh, I absolutely LOVE this pun! How have I missed it up till now? --Helen |
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H Schinske wrote: *Where are my weapons of math instruction now that I need them??? LOL! * *Grandma Katie * *Oh, oh, oh, I absolutely LOVE this pun! How have I missed it up till now? I don't know, but you should check this out, Helen: http://www.talkleft.com/archives/005528.html -- hillary israeli vmd http://www.hillary.net "uber vaccae in quattuor partes divisum est." not-so-newly minted veterinarian-at-large |
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"Ian" wrote in message ... "Ericka Kammerer" wrote in message ... Craig wrote: For the more kids you have, the amount of time / energy / whatnot is increased ? 1 kid = 1x multiplier 2 kids = 2.5x multiplier 3 kids = 4x multiplier Yes, there's a very simple equation. However many children you have will use up all the time/energy/whatnot you have ;-) I don't think this is true at all. I have one child and have A LOT more time, energy, financial resources, couple time than my friends with more kids. The more kids you have the more work it will be. Thats why we made the decision to have one. You arent telling me that someone with 4 kids has as much free time as me? My Mom says that the multiplier goes DOWN as you have more than 2 kids. As a parent, you chill a little, and the kids have each other. S |
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"Ian" wrote in message ... "Sophie" wrote in message ... "Ian" wrote in message ... I don't think this is true at all. I have one child and have A LOT more time, energy, financial resources, couple time than my friends with more kids. The more kids you have the more work it will be. Thats why we made the decision to have one. You arent telling me that someone with 4 kids has as much free time as me? Actually I know plenty of moms with "lots" of kids who have more free time then moms of 1 or 2. Moms of more tend to be more organized for one thing. We don't think we have to entertain baby 24/7. My kids have siblings for that My kid has friends for that. Friends that go home! The kids that come play here ALL have siblings. Why arent they home "playing" They come here to get away from the aggravation of their brothers and sisters, thats why! Most kids get siblings by the age of 3. How can a 2, 3 or even 4 yr old entertain a baby? They want to do their own thing. You cant leave kiddies that age playing alone. My child wasn't left alone unsupervised until around 4.5. You don't HAVE to be organised with just one. You can be a much more spur of the moment person. I don't want my life to revolve around kids activities. I want some adult time AND some time with my wife. Is someone trying to talk you into more kids? S |
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"Ian" wrote in message ... "Sophie" wrote in message ... Wow, lucky for our kids we're not so selfish or materialistic. Or clueless about what it's like to have more than one child. Why is it selfish to stick with one? I like my free time, more money. Those things are important to me. Is it selfish to want to be happy? Usually when people start name calling its because they are jealous. And I do come from a family of 4 siblings, so I am MORE than aware of what its like. Well, I am not speaking to anything that is directly in evidence here. But I get the *sense* that you parenting vision tends to focus to such a degree on how difficult, expensive ... parenting is and how much you *sacrifice* and whatnot that you may be missing some of the joy of parenthood. What I am trying to say is that the joy that COMES from parenthood increases with multiple children at a greater rate than the effort of their upbringing. One of my personal biases is to regard people who want the luxury associated with money as being shallow and selfish people. I recognize this as a bias of mine. But there it is. I cannot understand having money as a priority when there are so many truly important things in life. S |
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"Ian" wrote in message ... "Cheryl S." wrote in message ... "Ian" wrote in message ... Why is it selfish to stick with one? I like my free time, more money. Those things are important to me. Is it selfish to want to be happy? Usually when people start name calling its because they are jealous. And I do come from a family of 4 siblings, so I am MORE than aware of what its like. If you want to stick with one child then just don't have any more. You don't need to be defensive and you're not going to get most parents of two or more children to agree with you that one is better, obviously, since that's not what they chose themselves. They must have had their reasons for having more, just as you have your reasons for not wanting more. I haven't read the whole thread but I sincerely doubt anyone is jealous of you. I will say that I am currently struggling with having two and if you're not sure you can handle another you're best off sticking with one. I do look back on my days with one and think how much easier things were and I didn't even realize how good I had it. So if that is the answer you were looking for there it is. -- The OP was asking if it was harder with 2 kids than one. I am not here to start a debate, but logically it is harder. Why do people lie and say parenting is a breeze? Sometimes it feels like some big secret club, that no one knows the secret to how bad it is until you are in it! How bad it is? That is appalling.YOU are in charge of your attitude. And if you do not change it, I feel bad for your child, frankly. I have childless friends ask me what its like to be a parent. Damn hard I say! No point telling them its a bed of roses or they are going to get one hell of a shock! Would I change my life? Of course not BUT I don't want it to get any tougher. I am sure another child would be the light of my life too, but my life is hard enough, I have no wish to make it harder, even if it means missing out on more kids. |
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"Ian" wrote in message ... "Jenn" wrote in message ... In article , "Ian" wrote: "Sophie" wrote in message ... "Ian" wrote in message ... The OP was asking if it was harder with 2 kids than one. I am not here to start a debate, but logically it is harder. Why do people lie and say parenting is a breeze? Sometimes it feels like some big secret club, that no one knows the secret to how bad it is until you are in it! What don't you get? Parenting is not hard for everyone. To some people it *is* a breeze. Why is that so hard for you to understand?? How do you make it a breeze Sophie? Id love to know. Like I said we have one aged 8. Both my and my wife are shattered by 10pm. I work full time she is a SAHM. If we stay up till midnight its an event! time for some introspection if living life is this hard -- a full time SAHM and a school aged child AND you are both 'shattered by 10 pm] That seems really really odd I don't know. We get almost zero help from family, maybe that's the difference. It is very rare we get a night out alone. Have to book grandma about 6 weeks in advance! We are both up at 7am everyday including weekends. Maybe when he is older and sleeping in at the weekends it will get easier. 7am? Holy **** that's late. Perhaps it is a matter of adjusting your perpective. Incidentally, why not hire a babysitter? S |
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"Ian" wrote in message ... "Nan" wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:43:59 -0600, toto wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:24:09 -0000, "Ian" wrote: "toto" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:33:43 -0500, Nan wrote: An assumption to be sure, but not without some merit, imo. Note he says he is 26 - and he said he *chose* to have this child at such a young age. We chose to have our son as in we chose not to abort when faced with a surprise pregnancy. We didn't get married till he was 3. We didn't set out to have a baby at 18 and 17. But he is here now. I know we are young, but we are glad to have him. You don't sound glad to have him though. No, he doesn't, does he? He has had very little positive to say about his son. It's all been pretty negative and about how tired they are. Oh, and how he's looking forward to their later 30s so they can finally have *their* time. I am glad to have him truly. But what is wrong with wanting your independence back? Don't you guys dream of Sunday morning lie ins?? But you CAN. The thing is, it is all or nothing for you. You want to stay up late AND sleep in late AND you cannot have a babysitter AND you cannot have a neighbor sit AND you cannot sleep with your son up AND you cannot sleep with your wife up. You have too many requirements to be happy, with or without kids. You just happen to be blaming it on having a kid. Like I said before, when he was 3 I considered a vasectomy. I found it so trying having a 1 - 3 yr old. Now at 8, things are easier, and he is a fun guy to be around, but it is the thought of those awful baby and toddler years that put me off having another. I do not remember the awful baby and toddler years. Maybe I missed them? Oh wait, I could not have. I HAVE a baby. Maybe its because you all have little kids. Its only when you are out of it that your truly realise how taxing it was. That's absurd. It is a matter of attitude and focus. You chose to focus on how difficult it is, woe is you. You COULD chose to focus on how fun and rewarding your life is. Then, loe and behold, you might find that it is not that taxing. S |
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In article QE2Sb.179549$na.292808@attbi_s04,
"toypup" wrote: We have coyotes. So do my in-laws, but they never come near the house. I'd be more worried about my dd getting too close to a fire-ant mound. They've been pretty close to our house. I've seen them across the street in the neighbor's trash. If they came charging at me, I doubt I'd be able to get inside fast enough. They are quick. In-laws, or coyotes? :-0 -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "Jeez; if only those Ancient Greek storytellers had known about the astonishing creature that is the *Usenet hydra*: you cut off one head, and *a stupider one* grows back..." -- MJ, cam.misc |
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In article , "Nikki"
wrote: *Ages 2 to 3* Put away toys Put clothes in hamper Dust Pile books or magazines DS does those. He also "helps" with the washing up, setting the table (cutlery), waters he plants with his water bottle, puts the cutlery and his own dry plastic dishes away, carries in light groceries (it's the size/weight of objects that stops him doing more), tries to use a broom, presses the buttons on the washing machine for me, and loves having a damp cloth to clean things with. He is 3 next month. -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "Jeez; if only those Ancient Greek storytellers had known about the astonishing creature that is the *Usenet hydra*: you cut off one head, and *a stupider one* grows back..." -- MJ, cam.misc |
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