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Donna Metler wrote:
OTOH, I've met only a handful women, outside of pregnancy loss support groups, and only one other under the age of 40 who have had late-term pregnancy losses-and this was with everyone and their sister trying to comfort me and be supportive. So while early m/c is pretty common (and becoming far more visible, because people are more aware of when they concieve now), the later losses are, if anything, becoming less common. Sometimes it really annoys me-when I had the u/s at 7 weeks, and there was a heartbeat, the reaction of a lot of people seemed to be "Oh, good-everything's going to be fine". I am well aware that things can look fine on an u/s and in the OB's office-and crash suddenly, much later. It may not be normal for it to happen, but it can. But, the bottom line is that for MOST women, once you get past the first few months, you're probably going to come home with a baby. Oh, the statistics for stillbirth and infant deaths are overwhelming. Roughly 1 in 100 pregnancies end in stillbirth (miscarriage after 20 weeks.) That may not seem like "alot" until you put the numbers together. SHARE reports that in 1997, 26,390 stillbirths were reported. In the same year, there were 18,524 early neonatal deaths and 29,045 infant deaths. A New England Journal study in 1998 reported 22% of pregnancies ending in early miscarriage, and 12% ending in later miscarriage (before 20 weeks.) By these studies, I would say that late miscarriages and stillbirths are still very common. I had a 24 week stillbirth. My mom had a 20 week stillbirth. My aunt had two stillbirths (not sure of gestation.) My sister had a 10 week and a 12 week (not totally sure of gestation) miscarriage as well as a chemical pregnancy, and my cousin had a 39 week stillbirth. That's an awful lot of lost babies. -Lisa |
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Crystal Dreamer wrote in message news:33Jtc.5144$4A6.2869@attbi_s52... Donna Metler wrote: OTOH, I've met only a handful women, outside of pregnancy loss support groups, and only one other under the age of 40 who have had late-term pregnancy losses-and this was with everyone and their sister trying to comfort me and be supportive. So while early m/c is pretty common (and becoming far more visible, because people are more aware of when they concieve now), the later losses are, if anything, becoming less common. Sometimes it really annoys me-when I had the u/s at 7 weeks, and there was a heartbeat, the reaction of a lot of people seemed to be "Oh, good-everything's going to be fine". I am well aware that things can look fine on an u/s and in the OB's office-and crash suddenly, much later. It may not be normal for it to happen, but it can. But, the bottom line is that for MOST women, once you get past the first few months, you're probably going to come home with a baby. Oh, the statistics for stillbirth and infant deaths are overwhelming. Roughly 1 in 100 pregnancies end in stillbirth (miscarriage after 20 weeks.) That may not seem like "alot" until you put the numbers together. SHARE reports that in 1997, 26,390 stillbirths were reported. In the same year, there were 18,524 early neonatal deaths and 29,045 infant deaths. A New England Journal study in 1998 reported 22% of pregnancies ending in early miscarriage, and 12% ending in later miscarriage (before 20 weeks.) By these studies, I would say that late miscarriages and stillbirths are still very common. I had a 24 week stillbirth. My mom had a 20 week stillbirth. My aunt had two stillbirths (not sure of gestation.) My sister had a 10 week and a 12 week (not totally sure of gestation) miscarriage as well as a chemical pregnancy, and my cousin had a 39 week stillbirth. That's an awful lot of lost babies. Just wondering if there is anthing genetic there? Not saying there is, but it sounds awfully high nmbers just to be a fluke in your family? :-( Of course you do get statistic blips for no reason. People don't usually talk about m/c before 12 weeks particularly, imo. When the subject has come up a few times(in groups of mothers) I think more than half have admitted to at least one. I'm surprised the late m/c and still birth are so high statisically, but again, people don't usually talk about it unless the subject comes up. Debbie |
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"Mary W." wrote in message ... JennP wrote: "Ericka Kammerer" wrote in message ... Absolutely. I can certainly understand why people wouldn't announce a pregnancy until later so that they didn't have to deal with announcing a miscarriage as well. I can understand the other side as well. I think it just depends on the person and the situation. I think more people keep their pregnancies quiet for most of the first trimester than not, and I know an awful lot of people who didn't tell hardly anyone about the pregnancy or the miscarriage-- especially if they've been burned before. You know, after my first m/c I said with the next one that I would tell people earlier because I didn't want to have go through the agony of explaining to close family and freinds that I was pregnant and now I'm not and that's why I might be miserable for a while. I swore the next pg I would tell earlier, but we didn't. I was glad, because I m/c'd early. This pregnancy I really didn't start telling anyone other than very close friends and family until about a week go and I'm 18 weeks. I didn't tell family until I was about 15 weeks. Only a few very close freinds knew earlier on. They are really my support group so I needed to let them know. I hate to say it, but my family was just too high maintainence, too emotionally connected and I couldn't deal with that. You couldn't tell I was pregnant anyway so I wanted to keep it as quiet as possible. I'm glad I waited. We hadn't told very many people we were pregnant when I miscarried, and for us it was the right decision (although my family is much less high maintenance, and were very supportive when they found out). For the last two pregnancies (DD, and current one) we told family only early. This pregnancy we didn't tell friends until 15 weeks (and my MIL at 20 weeks, *she* is high maintainence). I've just recently started telling people that we had miscarried (which happened in 1999), and usually only if it comes up in conversation (which it actually does sometimes). But again, for some people, its better for them to have people know, for us it wasn't. Mary For me, I started telling people about this pregnancy almost as soon as I knew I was pregnant-but one reason was because there were possible problems early on, I had to stay off work several days and change what I did while there, and there really wasn't a good way to hide it-pregnancy was less troubling to those around me than the other things which could have explained what was going on. I also knew I would need at least some support if I miscarried this time, and I didn't want to have to explain why I was depressed after the fact or try to act like nothing had happened. My husband hasn't told all that many people (at 9 weeks) although he's pretty sure the rumor mill is spinning from the one or two who do know. However, in my case, I can't wait until I'm "safe"-because until the baby is far enough along to be viable, I'm not. Even then, there's really no place to celebrate until after the baby is safely born. So I expect that many of the reasons people wait due to m/c don't really apply. |
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DOH !!!..............of course.......
"Marion Boulden" wrote in message = ... Kazh wrote: I know what you mean by ''gut feeling'' I was convinced I was pg. Then when my period started, I felt nauseous, had a banging headache I = couldn't shift all day, had stomach cramps for a week and = backache.............I put the pains down to my period, headache down to = my high blood pressure and nausea down to a bug going round, but I knew = there was ''something'' doing on with my body, you just have a feeling = things aren't right......... Excuse my ignorance but what do you mean by hpt test? I did 3 HCG tests, all negative. HPT=3D Home Pregnancy Test (which tests for HCG) Marion |
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HPT -- home pregnancy test. HCG is the hormone in the blood that the
doctors can test for, also known as a beta test. I've had 9 losses -- 1 late term loss at 24 weeks via induced labor due to the baby developing with the majority of his internal organs on the outside of his body, followed by 6 chemical pgs around 4-5 weeks,(positive beta or hpt, followed by bleeding, all before u/s could be done to verify pg), and 2 blighted ovums around 7-10 weeks (heartbeat never seen via u/s, just sac, then bleeding). Hopefully my high number of losses means that someone out there won't have to experience any....I only wish it worked that way. -- Jamie & Taylor Earth Angel, 1/3/03 Check out Taylor Marlys -- www.MyFamily.com, User ID: Clarkguest1, Password: Guest Become a member for free - go to Add Member to set up your own User ID and Password Check out our Adoption Page at http://home.earthlink.net/~jamielee6 "Kazh" wrote in message ... I know what you mean by ''gut feeling'' I was convinced I was pg. Then when my period started, I felt nauseous, had a banging headache I couldn't shift all day, had stomach cramps for a week and backache.............I put the pains down to my period, headache down to my high blood pressure and nausea down to a bug going round, but I knew there was ''something'' doing on with my body, you just have a feeling things aren't right......... Excuse my ignorance but what do you mean by hpt test? I did 3 HCG tests, all negative. "Jamie Clark" wrote in message link.net... Sometimes you don't ever know officially -- sometimes its just a gut feeling. Sometimes you get a positive pregnancy test, and get your period a week later. Since your periods are normally 5 heavy days of spotting, you might want to take another hpt, just to be sure. Especially with the history you have with your son, of not showing up positive, even when you were pregnant. -- Jamie & Taylor Earth Angel, 1/3/03 |
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In 33Jtc.5144$4A6.2869@attbi_s52,
Crystal Dreamer wrote: *Oh, the statistics for stillbirth and infant deaths are overwhelming. *Roughly 1 in 100 pregnancies end in stillbirth (miscarriage after 20 weeks.) And absolutely that is horrible for those involved, and for society, and I wouldn't wish it on an enemy. But that means that 99% do not end in stillbirth. 99 chances out of 100 are good odds. I'd buy that lottery ticket. h. -- hillary israeli vmd http://www.hillary.net "uber vaccae in quattuor partes divisum est." not-so-newly minted veterinarian-at-large |
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 15:38:53 -0400, Shannon wrote:
I was just curious...I noticed that unfortunately there are a several people on this newsgroup who have gone through the experience of a m/c. I was curious if anyone knows what the chance of this occuring are. Overall the chances of m/c in a healthy woman are around 15% each time she gets pregnant, and this does not change after having one m/c. Of the fertilized eggs, only ~25% is succesfull, the rest will not implant properly or die in the first few days. A woman will not notice this at all, except that sometimes her period is a couple of days late, but that can have many causes. Nevertheless, some women suffer recurrent such early m/c without knowing until they start fertility treatments. After succesful implantation, missed period and thus positive HPT, still about 10-15% of the pregnancies result in m/c. Mostly because there was a chromosomal error at conception and the embryo isn't viable. Most of such m/c's occur in the first trimester. -- -- I mommy to DS (July '02) mommy to three tiny angels (28 Oct'03, 17 Feb'04 & 20 May'04) guardian of DH (33) |
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On Sat, 29 May 2004 02:54:44 +1200, Unadulterated Me wrote:
Jenrose wrote: I've been told that approximately 40% of women will have a miscarriage at some point in their lives. I managed to have 8 full term pregnancies before I experienced one. I had convinced myself I was immune, then when it happened I was in total shock. I really lost the plot for a while, I really needed a reason why, I blamed everyone and everything from drinking coffee to blaming my husband for having deformed sperm. I so missed that little baby, I was heartbroken. Which is exactly why it frustrates me unspeakably that standard care does not start until you are ~10w pregnant. In the medical world, you are not really considered pregnant until you are almost in the second trimester. If something happens before that point, it's all up to you to deal with it, and nobody realizes how tought that is until she's lived through it. There is no or little research on the impact that m/c can have physically and mentally, and the general assumption is that you'll be "better" after a week or two. The heartbreak and grief are ignored under the assumption that you know too it was for the better. Any doctor will tell you "it was just plain bad luck, try again". As if another baby can replace the one you lost, no matter how early in your pregnancy. I've read the same number: about 40% of the women will have m/c at one point or another. Still, there is an enormous taboo on it. When we get asked how long we plan to wait for #2, I answer "I've been preggers 3 times in the last 9 months". Usually that kills the conversation nicely... -- -- I mommy to DS (July '02) mommy to three tiny angels (28 Oct'03, 17 Feb'04 & 20 May'04) guardian of DH (33) |
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Welches wrote:
Just wondering if there is anthing genetic there? Not saying there is, but it sounds awfully high nmbers just to be a fluke in your family? :-( Of course you do get statistic blips for no reason. I wish I knew! At a glance, our family looks genetically fine. My doctor ordered chromosome testing on my daughter when she had her autopsy, but the pathology department for some reason didn't do it, so we'll never know. The autopsy, however, showed that she was perfect. |
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 17:34:00 +0000, Hillary Israeli wrote:
In 33Jtc.5144$4A6.2869@attbi_s52, Crystal Dreamer wrote: *Oh, the statistics for stillbirth and infant deaths are overwhelming. *Roughly 1 in 100 pregnancies end in stillbirth (miscarriage after 20 weeks.) And absolutely that is horrible for those involved, and for society, and I wouldn't wish it on an enemy. But that means that 99% do not end in stillbirth. 99 chances out of 100 are good odds. I'd buy that lottery ticket. I would too, but too many women are under the impression that once they are through their "perilous" first trimester, it is smooth sailing. Nature gives no guarantees. Seeing a heartbeat is no guarantee for a healthy baby. I was shocked when I read those numbers during my first pregnancy, but I was also glad to know where I stood. -- -- I mommy to DS (July '02) mommy to three tiny angels (28 Oct'03, 17 Feb'04 & 20 May'04) guardian of DH (33) |
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