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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
LK wrote: On Dec 30, 1:07 am, Kent Wills wrote: On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:06:05 -0500, "LK" wrote: "Kent Wills" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 03:10:44 -0800 (PST), Greegor wrote: Ron, Do you really think that spelling my name wrong and in lower case enhances your credibility? You've taken to spelling my name wrong, though you do use upper case. Why, exactly, is it acceptable for you, but unacceptable for Ron? How do you rationalize this? Ron should be setting a better example. Why is Ron held to a higher standard of behavior than Greg? -- Kent Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons... for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Why shouldn't a foster parent be held to a higher standard of behavior then one he accuses of abuse? gregg admits to abusing, but that is beside the point. As a foster parent I am held to a higher standard, than the regular parent. As an active member of this news group, I hold myself to a higher standard, which is why I insist on supporting my belief's and statements with verifiable facts. Few here do that, yourself included. It IS a higher standard, maybe not the one that you would prefer, but then again I cant please everyone now can I? Ron -- Kenneth Pangborn (AKA KRP) is a lying sack of ****! Proof at: www.aboutkenpangborn.com |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
"Ron" wrote in message ... Ron, Do you really think that spelling my name wrong and in lower case enhances your credibility? You've taken to spelling my name wrong, though you do use upper case. Why, exactly, is it acceptable for you, but unacceptable for Ron? How do you rationalize this? Ron should be setting a better example. Why is Ron held to a higher standard of behavior than Greg? -- Kent Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons... for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Why shouldn't a foster parent be held to a higher standard of behavior then one he accuses of abuse? gregg admits to abusing, but that is beside the point. That is NOT what I read in Gregg's statements. He admits putting the kid in the shower, NOT that it was abuse. In a world where social workers offer testimony in courts that; "The ONLY reason a father has his child sit on his lap is for the proximity of his penis to her vagina" and where someone accused such as Gregg is NOT allowed to defend the accusation or be represented because he was not a biological parent we see a stacked deck. Same with allegations of domestic violence where you have laws that presume the male guilty and you have somebody who cannot afford a defense, so they fall victim to the standard advice of a public defender to accept a plea because "it really doesn't matter anyway." Hell even 90% of the guys who can afford lawyers are misled into accepting a plea by lawyers who advise them it is "meaningless." That's standard legal advice. So it is easy to judge Gregg. Ron considers himself perfect so he judges everyone, and forgets that a guy a long time ago said. "Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone." |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
LK wrote: On Dec 30, 5:59 pm, Ron wrote: LK wrote: On Dec 30, 1:07 am, Kent Wills wrote: On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:06:05 -0500, "LK" wrote: "Kent Wills" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 03:10:44 -0800 (PST), Greegor wrote: Ron, Do you really think that spelling my name wrong and in lower case enhances your credibility? You've taken to spelling my name wrong, though you do use upper case. Why, exactly, is it acceptable for you, but unacceptable for Ron? How do you rationalize this? Ron should be setting a better example. Why is Ron held to a higher standard of behavior than Greg? -- Kent Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons... for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Why shouldn't a foster parent be held to a higher standard of behavior then one he accuses of abuse? gregg admits to abusing, but that is beside the point. As a foster parent I am held to a higher standard, than the regular parent. But there are ways around that, right? Not that I have found. Nor have I looked, I have no need to look for a way around it, I don't abuse or neglect kids. As an active member of this news group, I hold myself to a higher standard, which is why I insist on supporting my belief's and statements with verifiable facts. Few here do that, yourself included. It IS a higher standard, maybe not the one that you would prefer, but then again I cant please everyone now can I? Ron -- Kenneth Pangborn (AKA KRP) is a lying sack of ****! Proof at: www.aboutkenpangborn.com |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
Greegor wrote: KW Why is Ron held to a higher standard of behavior than Greg? LK Why shouldn't a foster parent be held LK to a higher standard of behavior LK then one he accuses of abuse? RVD gregg admits to abusing, but that is beside the point. I admit to doing things that YOU exaggerate to call abuse. No sex, no blood, no broken bones. Don't smoke, drink liquor or do drugs. RVD As a foster parent I am held to a higher RVD standard, than the regular parent. LK But there are ways around that, right? The foster agency itself investigates accusations of abuse in foster care, not CPS. I am not an agency based foster parent gregg, we call it a "Traditional Foster Parent". BOTH agencies have a vested interest in minimizing or playing down such abuse as much as they can get away with. So you keep saying. But it sure seems to me that the state takes a great deal of time and effort in exposing bad foster parents and removing them from the rolls. So, either your agenda is getting in the way or you are intentionally trying to ignore the facts, again. The validity of the screening process and the pretense that fosters are superior are proven wrong quite regularly by foster abuse incidents. As few as there are. The facts show that when dealing with kids at risk that foster parents are significantly safer than the average parent of a child at risk. The interest of the agencies in minimizing foster abuse is played out in some news stories as well. To bad that most parental abuse and neglect of children never makes it into the news, right gregg? After all, it has become so "old hat" that the news agencies tend to ignore it, unless there is something spectacular to report. Gotta sell them papers after all. And of course their ignoring it plays right into your theories. Ron -- Kenneth Pangborn (AKA KRP) is a lying sack of ****! Proof at: www.aboutkenpangborn.com |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
LK wrote: On Dec 30, 11:51 pm, Greegor wrote: KW Why is Ron held to a higher standard of behavior than Greg? LK Why shouldn't a foster parent be held LK to a higher standard of behavior LK then one he accuses of abuse? RVD gregg admits to abusing, but that is beside the point. I admit to doing things that YOU exaggerate to call abuse. No sex, no blood, no broken bones. Don't smoke, drink liquor or do drugs. RVD As a foster parent I am held to a higher RVD standard, than the regular parent. LK But there are ways around that, right? The foster agency itself investigates accusations of abuse in foster care, not CPS. They're all the same to me. A babystealer is a babystealer. BOTH agencies have a vested interest in minimizing or playing down such abuse as much as they can get away with. The validity of the screening process and the pretense that fosters are superior are proven wrong quite regularly by foster abuse incidents. You don't think Ron is superior? I mean even as far as foster parents go? The interest of the agencies in minimizing foster abuse is played out in some news stories as well. Did all your foster kids have a happy Christmas Ron? Do they give you any extra to buy them christmas presents? We had a great Christmas, and no they give me nothing additional for the holiday. Ron -- Kenneth Pangborn (AKA KRP) is a lying sack of ****! Proof at: www.aboutkenpangborn.com |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
krp wrote: "Ron" wrote in message ... Ron, Do you really think that spelling my name wrong and in lower case enhances your credibility? You've taken to spelling my name wrong, though you do use upper case. Why, exactly, is it acceptable for you, but unacceptable for Ron? How do you rationalize this? Ron should be setting a better example. Why is Ron held to a higher standard of behavior than Greg? -- Kent Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons... for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Why shouldn't a foster parent be held to a higher standard of behavior then one he accuses of abuse? gregg admits to abusing, but that is beside the point. That is NOT what I read in Gregg's statements. I cant help it kenny is you chose to intentionally ignore things. After all, given your history I'd not be surprised to find your name in a CPS file somewhere. He admits putting the kid in the shower, NOT that it was abuse. In a world where social workers offer testimony in courts that; "The ONLY reason a father has his child sit on his lap is for the proximity of his penis to her vagina" and where someone accused such as Gregg is NOT allowed to defend the accusation or be represented because he was not a biological parent we see a stacked deck. Same with allegations of domestic violence where you have laws that presume the male guilty and you have somebody who cannot afford a defense, so they fall victim to the standard advice of a public defender to accept a plea because "it really doesn't matter anyway." Hell even 90% of the guys who can afford lawyers are misled into accepting a plea by lawyers who advise them it is "meaningless." That's standard legal advice. So it is easy to judge Gregg. Ron considers himself perfect so he judges everyone, and forgets that a guy a long time ago said. "Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone." Ron -- Kenneth Pangborn (AKA KRP) is a lying sack of ****! Proof at: www.aboutkenpangborn.com |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
On Dec 30, 11:51 pm, Greegor wrote: KW Why is Ron held to a higher standard of behavior than Greg? LK Why shouldn't a foster parent be held LK to a higher standard of behavior LK then one he accuses of abuse? RVD gregg admits to abusing, but that is beside the point. I admit to doing things that YOU exaggerate to call abuse. The State of Iowa determined that what you did was abuse, greg. No exaggeration. No sex, no blood, no broken bones. You mean no penetration, no blood , no broken bones. Don't smoke, drink liquor or do drugs. You're a clean cut child abusing, wife abusing, twice convicted pervert? RVD As a foster parent I am held to a higher RVD standard, than the regular parent. LK But there are ways around that, right? The foster agency itself investigates accusations of abuse in foster care, not CPS. In which states are you referring to, greg? Not NY. BOTH agencies have a vested interest in minimizing or playing down such abuse as much as they can get away with. True. The validity of the screening process and the pretense that fosters are superior are proven wrong quite regularly by foster abuse incidents. FPs screw up, too. And there are lunatics everywhere. In every facet of life. The interest of the agencies in minimizing foster abuse is played out in some news stories as well. Is that supposed to be a revelation? |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
On Dec 31, 12:58 pm, Greegor wrote:
On Dec 31, 8:52 am, LK wrote: On Dec 30, 11:51 pm, Greegor wrote: KW Why is Ron held to a higher standard of behavior than Greg? LK Why shouldn't a foster parent be held LK to a higher standard of behavior LK then one he accuses of abuse? RVD gregg admits to abusing, but that is beside the point. I admit to doing things that YOU exaggerate to call abuse. No sex, no blood, no broken bones. Don't smoke, drink liquor or do drugs. RVD As a foster parent I am held to a higher RVD standard, than the regular parent. LK But there are ways around that, right? The foster agency itself investigates accusations of abuse in foster care, not CPS. They're all the same to me. A babystealer is a babystealer. BOTH agencies have a vested interest in minimizing or playing down such abuse as much as they can get away with. The validity of the screening process and the pretense that fosters are superior are proven wrong quite regularly by foster abuse incidents. You don't think Ron is superior? I mean even as far as foster parents go? Look up in this newsgroup where we had fun with him declaring himself a "training Nazi". "Training nazi" was Ron way of making fun of himself. You weren't bright enough to get it. It was part of his on-line Role Playing Game stuff. Ron seems egotistical. If he goes to church and they talk about how we are all imperfect, you can bet that Ron tells him self that doesn't apply to him. How do you know what they talk about in Ron's church? Remember that some people are compelled to go into law enforcement because they get a big kick out of lording over other people. Some people? What percentage? Did you see how Cops have this huge rate of Domestic Violence and how the police force does everything they can to make any accusation go away? See? Where? The interest of the agencies in minimizing foster abuse is played out in some news stories as well. Did all your foster kids have a happy Christmas Ron? Do they give you any extra to buy them christmas presents? LK, Parents with kids in the system actually get a bit annoyed when the system people PRESUME that the parents can't even buy their kid/s Christmas presents. How do you know that? Sometimes they seem to view it as a competition. A non-custodial parent or competitive caretaker might for example come up with very nice Christmas presents. Sometimes they make an effort to buy their way into standing with the child. greg claimed he was a nice guy to Lisa's daughter because he bought her a pair of sneakers!!! BFD the only gift in two years. If the agency comes up with presents for kids who would not have any it's a good idea, but doing this when parents are ABLE and do provide presents can become a bit of an insult to the parent. You don't want the kids to get too many presents, greg? |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
Greegor wrote: On Dec 31, 8:52 am, LK wrote: On Dec 30, 11:51 pm, Greegor wrote: KW Why is Ron held to a higher standard of behavior than Greg? LK Why shouldn't a foster parent be held LK to a higher standard of behavior LK then one he accuses of abuse? RVD gregg admits to abusing, but that is beside the point. I admit to doing things that YOU exaggerate to call abuse. No sex, no blood, no broken bones. Don't smoke, drink liquor or do drugs. RVD As a foster parent I am held to a higher RVD standard, than the regular parent. LK But there are ways around that, right? The foster agency itself investigates accusations of abuse in foster care, not CPS. They're all the same to me. A babystealer is a babystealer. BOTH agencies have a vested interest in minimizing or playing down such abuse as much as they can get away with. The validity of the screening process and the pretense that fosters are superior are proven wrong quite regularly by foster abuse incidents. You don't think Ron is superior? I mean even as far as foster parents go? Look up in this newsgroup where we had fun with him declaring himself a "training Nazi". (As opposed to a teacher) Gee gregg, could you be more ignorant? That was kneals claim, not mine. Try and get the players right, will ya? It was part of his on-line Role Playing Game stuff. Ron seems egotistical. If he goes to church and they talk about how we are all imperfect, you can bet that Ron tells him self that doesn't apply to him. Remember that some people are compelled to go into law enforcement because they get a big kick out of lording over other people. Did you see how Cops have this huge rate of Domestic Violence and how the police force does everything they can to make any accusation go away? Domestic violence 'eh? Well, you would be the news group expert in that area now wouldnt you gregg. Cops also have a high divorce rate, a high cardio vascular issue rate, and a higher insurance rate gregg. All of that adds up to absolutely nothing gregg, since I dont have cardio vascular issue's, have never been divorced, have never been even accused of domestic violence, and I have a group insurnace plan and therefore dont pay a great deal for it. Then again, I have a job. The interest of the agencies in minimizing foster abuse is played out in some news stories as well. Did all your foster kids have a happy Christmas Ron? Do they give you any extra to buy them christmas presents? LK, Parents with kids in the system actually get a bit annoyed when the system people PRESUME that the parents can't even buy their kid/s Christmas presents. I'm sure that they do gregg, but then again some can and some cant. Some would rather spend that money on booze or drugs, or on cigarretts and porn. Sometimes they seem to view it as a competition. I can think of only one person that would do that gregg, and since you are unemployed I assume that your dont win that one real often. A non-custodial parent or competitive caretaker might for example come up with very nice Christmas presents. Sometimes they make an effort to buy their way into standing with the child. Parents do that all the time gregg. If the agency comes up with presents for kids who would not have any it's a good idea, but doing this when parents are ABLE and do provide presents can become a bit of an insult to the parent. Is it also an insult to parents who cannot gregg? After all, they are unable to provide for them, I could see someone like yourself whining about that aspect as well. Ron -- Kenneth Pangborn (AKA KRP) is a lying sack of ****! Proof at: www.aboutkenpangborn.com |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
"Dan Sullivan" wrote in message ... On Dec 30, 11:51 pm, Greegor wrote: KW Why is Ron held to a higher standard of behavior than Greg? LK Why shouldn't a foster parent be held LK to a higher standard of behavior LK then one he accuses of abuse? RVD gregg admits to abusing, but that is beside the point. I admit to doing things that YOU exaggerate to call abuse. The State of Iowa determined that what you did was abuse, greg. No exaggeration. Right just not the WHOLE story as usual Danny boy. Was Gregg allowed to appear? Was Gregg allowed an attorney to represent him? Was Gregg's side ever heard? No no and no. |
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