Kids drinking out of a garden hose

"E" wrote in message
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EXCEPT you all seem to be assuming this water has been treated somehow,
and
not water that comes directly out of an extra well in their yard that goes
untreated and is just there to supply the extra needed to water the yard.
If it is treated and/or city water, and the water has been running for a
while, I see no problem. if the water had been sitting in the hose for a
while, there is the potential for chemicals in the hose material leaching
out into the water. depending on the chemical, how long you let the water
run to cool it off, it may pose a problem.
if the water is untreated, there could be some very big problems.
Edith
B.S. Water Resources (but I've been a Geologist for all my jobs...)

Which I guess is why the husband wanted to make the point
it was an already running hose, the water wasn't sitting in it.
If he could guarantee us he saw the hose was attached to a
hose bib, and the house in his beach neighborhood doesn't
have "dirty water" hookups for garden watering, then I'd
guess he'd be pretty much home free. (Here in
California I haven't run into a residential neighborhood
that has that hookup to conserve water, but I tend to be
more familiar with older neighborhoods.) I'd also
assume one who left their child with a dad probably
isn't the type to worry that one drink out of a possibly
lead leaching hose that has been running will give a child
brain damage.


--
Edith
oht nak


"dragonlady" wrote in message
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(Beeswing) wrote:

My husband wants me to clarify that it was only one hose at only one
house and
the water was already running. For what it's worth. (As far as I'm
concerned:
Absolutely nothing.)

We await your wise guidance, members of mkm.

beeswing


Actually, I think that IS worth something: I had visions of your
husband walking up to a stranger's house and turning on the outside
water hose to give the kids a drink of water!

I drink out of hoses all the time, and would have no concerns about the
safety. In fact, I LIKE the way it feels to drink water out of a
running hose, but I'm told I'm odd in many ways. The water is the same
as the water that comes into your sink, and, if you've let the water run
for a while, chances of there being anything nasty to drink are pretty
remote.

I don't know if I would pick up a strangers' hose, but suspect that if I
were with thirsty kids, and the water was already running, and it didn't
involve any serious trespassing (didn't have to open a gate or anything)
-- I'd probably have done the same thing that your husband did.

meh
--
Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care

In article ,
(Claire Petersky) writes:


But have you gone shopping for a hose lately? I was looking to replace
our hose for the front yard. Nearly every hose now has a warning -
about how it could cause birth defects or other problems due to the
chemicals that are in the hose.


And ladders have warnings that they are tall. There is, no doubt, some
possibility that chemicals in the hose could be dangerous. I think the warning
is really there because of the much higher possibility that someone would
otherwise try to sue the hose manufacturer. Also, with the warning they don't
have to do any testing to prove that it would be safe to drink from their hose.


-Marjorie

In article ,
(Beeswing) writes:


Personally, I'd rather make the choice for my child instead of having another
parent making it for me. And I respect that others might feel the same. I
might
have ended up feeling differently about this, in the end, if the outcome of
this discussion had been anywhere close to unanimous.

The neighbor had already trusted you to make decisions about her child.
I suspect the walk itself, not to mention the beach, exposed her to far more
danger than the hose.


I really appreciate all of mkm's opinions and perspectives. I did keep my
mind
open. As it turns out, the discussion helped me to understand where my
husband
was coming from, but also cemented me in my own position.


Your position is probably the most correct one, but it is probably a case
where it isn't all that important to be right. I'm going to assume your
husband would know if non-potable hookups for lawn watering are common in your
area. Since the water was already running, it greatly reduced the risk from
chemicals from the hose itself and from previous uses of the hose. There is
still some possibilty that the hose was actually draining a pool or waterbed
or something.

It also appears that neither you or the other mom had previously felt strongly
enough to instruct the kids not to drink from hoses.

-Marjorie

MarjiG wrote:

It also appears that neither you or the other mom had previously felt
strongly enough to instruct the kids not to drink from hoses.

I also haven't instructed my child not to sit on a cactus, but that doesn't
mean it's because I don't feel strongly about it. It's because I haven't been
in the situation before to bring it up.

beeswing

"MarjiG" wrote in message
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In article ,

(Beeswing) writes:


Personally, I'd rather make the choice for my child instead of having
another
parent making it for me. And I respect that others might feel the same. I
might
have ended up feeling differently about this, in the end, if the outcome
of
this discussion had been anywhere close to unanimous.

The neighbor had already trusted you to make decisions about her child.
I suspect the walk itself, not to mention the beach, exposed her to far
more
danger than the hose.


good point!
--
Edith
oht nak

Edith wrote:

[MarjiG wrote]
I suspect the walk itself, not to mention the beach, exposed her to far
more danger than the hose.


good point!

Actually, we live in a very safe area for walking. Most of it is trails in park
lands. Any street walking includes sidewalks.

beeswing

(Beeswing) wrote:

safe to drink. I think he did the wrong thing. He thinks I'm crazy. The other
girl's parent, as it turned out, laughed about the whole thing when he heard
about it later. But that's not the point.

I guess what happened can't be the point. The kids had fun. Dad
enjoyed walk. Water turned out safe to drink. Many (including me)
love to drink from a hose outside on a hot day. The other girl's
parent didn't have an issue. Did no harm to homeowner.

fwiw, and while I admit to being unaware of their hose water position,
I've read that the NRDC (a NY based environmental advocacy group) has
serious concerns with bottled water and have petitioned the US FDA to
improve bottled water labeling and disclosures, substantially
strengthening standards and starting a meaningful regulatory system.

Let's hope dh doesn't take some of that stuff on the next hike ;-)

--
Jim

"Jeff Utz" wrote in message
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Bottled water is not all it is cracked up to be.


That's for sure! Every so often the local news does a consumer's report
item on where the bottled water comes from. In many cases it comes out of
the tap, goes in the bottle, off to the store, and you pay a whole lot for
what you already have [around here the only potable water seems to be city
water unless you can stomach the sulpher water].

-Aula


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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 21:39:47 EDT, "Jeff Utz"
wrote:

Bottled water is not all it is cracked up to be.

Just saw a news report of an increase in cavities in young children
because they were drinking bottled water.

--
Daye
Momma to Jayan
EDD 11 Jan 2004

"Daye" wrote in message
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On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 21:39:47 EDT, "Jeff Utz"
wrote:

Bottled water is not all it is cracked up to be.

Just saw a news report of an increase in cavities in young children
because they were drinking bottled water.


I have read reports that is because several brands of bottled water are not
out of the tap and, therefore, do not have added fluoride. Talk about mixed
blessings!

-Aula


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