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Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:25:41 -0400, "dejablues"
wrote: That meant , time on the bottle AFTER exclusively breastfeeding. I never could get the hang of pumping, so I had one that breastfed for 10 months, one for 6, and one for 7. It was actually a fight to get them to TAKE the bottle after nursing, and giving it up at one year was pretty easy. . I guess I should have been more clear on that! That does clear it up. Mine went directly from breast to cup, though. Never had a bottle with formula or milk in it. Juice occasionally with my son and not much with dd since she didn't like bottles much. Granddaughter won't take one at all and she's been offered one since she was having trouble nursing at one point. She simply would NOT suck on a bottle nipple at all. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. Outer Limits |
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Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?
IMO, bottles are a *sometimes* necessary evil, to be endured rather than
embraced. I guess I'm somewhat prejudiced having remembered my mom dealing with my two youngest brothers (preemie twins in 1968, cloth diapers too!) and my very anti-breast-feeding sis-in-law ("I never felt the urge!" sigh) who had each kid on the bottle til they were 4 years old. I agree with you Rosalie about the emotionality of the issue. Parents often make a great deal more of it than the babies do. "Rosalie B." wrote in message ... x-no-archive:yes toto wrote: On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 17:20:09 -0400, "dejablues" wrote: (I must say that I had one child that only took a bottle for two months, one for four, and one for three). Boy yout children sure weaned early. I can't imagine a child of two months on neither breast or bottle... My children were breast fed though they did take bottles for juice on occasion.. Neither went to a cup so early though - about 6 months was the beginning of sippy cups. And they weaned to regular cups by around 2. But my dd was still bfing at bedtime until she was 2 1/2 years old. My son weaned at 13 months when he began walking. We didn't have sippy cups either. None of mine ever had a bottle for anything after the first one rejected water bottles vigorously - I never tried it again. OTOH I did start them on a regular cup at about 6 months IIRC. They were drinking from a small cup at the table by 8 months. child one self weaned except at bedtime by 8 months so I know she must have been drinking from a cup then. She weaned totally when she started walking at about a year. I went off on a trip when #2 was 8 months. That's why I think they were drinking from cups by then. #3 was bf at night until 15 months, and #4 wasn't completely weaned until age 3. (from bf - as I said - no bottle - bottles weren't as easy in those days either). They did learn to drink from a straw sometime before a year. Given that people don't mind now (most people) having a child bf until fairly old, I don't see why there should be a need to wean from a bottle either as long as the child doesn't go to sleep with it in the mouth. Doctors are human and have prejudices just like other people, so I would theorize that some of them have the same dislike of babies older than a year with a bottle or pacifier as have been stated here, and because of that might recommend that the baby be weaned or not have a pacifier after a year whether or not that was really medically indicated. My personal take on that is that it is more emotional than anything, and thus there is real reason to do it if you don't want to. grandma Rosalie |
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Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 19:29:19 -0400, "dejablues"
wrote: From http://www.aap.org/pubserv/weaning.htm "During this process you may be tempted to put milk or juice in his bottle to help him go to sleep, but don't do it. If he falls asleep while feeding, the milk or juice will pool around his teeth, and this can cause his incoming teeth to decay--a condition known as nursing-bottle syndrome. To make matters worse, drinking while lying flat on his back can also contribute to middle-ear infections, since the liquid may actually flow through the eustachian tube into the middle ear. If he isn't lying down with the bottle and he doesn't have milk in it while wandering around, then this is not going to be a problem. You don;t have to wean him from the bottle not to do this.. You just have to keep feeding him yourself and not giving him the bottle to sleep with. There's still one more disadvantage to prolonged bottle feeding: The bottle can become a security object, particularly if your baby keeps it beyond about age one. To avoid this, don't let him carry or drink from a bottle while playing. Restrict the use of a bottle to feedings when he's sitting down or being held. At all other times, give him a cup. If you never allow him to take the bottle with him, he won't realize that bringing it along is even an option. Don't relent once this decision has been made, or it could prompt him to demand a bottle again long after he has "officially" been weaned. " And what about this is not detrimental? Frankly I think it's hogwash. Security objects are not detrimental in fact they are helpful to babies emotional health. If he does get attached to a bottle so what.. Let him carry around one with water or an empty one. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. Outer Limits |
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Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?
"Truffles" wrote in message ... What is the reasoning behind weaning off of bottles to sippy cups by one year? Are there studies showing detrimental effects from continued use of bottles? I have heard they can be bad for the kids teeth in the long run. It just seems to me one year is a little early to wean off a bottle. Also, *IMO* a sippy cup is just a glorified bottle that's harder to clean. True but it's a step in the direction of using a cup. I used on just as a way to get Hamish used to the idea, he uses a normal cup now. I'm in no hurry to wean my twins off of bottles. Nipples are easier to clean than valves. They take their water in sippy cups and milk in bottles. This is what we did. I think it was the best of both worlds. Hamish got used to the cup and learned to use a cup properly but there was no rush to get rid of the bottle. He gave the bottle up himself at about 18 months. Judy Does anyone know? -- Brigitte aa #2145 edd #3 February 15, 2004 http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/ "Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare." ~ Harriet Martineau |
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Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?
It just seems to me one year is a little early to wean off a bottle.
Also, *IMO* a sippy cup is just a glorified bottle that's harder to clean. While there are lots of reasons given that have varying amounts of validity (tooth decay, attachment issues, 'window of opportunity', etc.), my guess would be that it's really just one of those things that has just always been done. Back when baby feeding first began to become 'scientific' doctors typically began recommending weaning (from the breast -- few babies were formula fed at that point), between 9-12 months, because they'd found that babies nursed longer than that often became anemic. (Keep in mind that there was no mixed feeding. A bf baby got only breastmilk, so anemia would be likely by one year.) Soon after this, formula feeding began to be common, and the 'wean 9-12 months' rule was simply carried over to formula. Plus, there was lots of concern about encouraging children to become mature and independent as soon as possible, and getting babies off the bottle would aid that. (And, of course, once a baby switched from formula to cows milk, it made practical sense to switch him to a cup, since the practice of preparing the formula and sterlizing the bottles went hand in hand.) Today, I think different doctors have different attitudes. (Just as with breastfeeding.) Some will push to get baby off the bottle early. Others figure that baby will wean when he's ready.... Naomi CAPPA Certified Lactation Educator (either remove spamblock or change address to to e-mail reply.) |
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Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?
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, dragonlady wrote: In article , "dejablues" wrote: From http://www.aap.org/pubserv/weaning.htm "During this process you may be tempted to put milk or juice in his bottle to help him go to sleep, but don't do it. If he falls asleep while feeding, the milk or juice will pool around his teeth, and this can cause his incoming teeth to decay--a condition known as nursing-bottle syndrome. To make matters worse, drinking while lying flat on his back can also contribute to middle-ear infections, since the liquid may actually flow through the eustachian tube into the middle ear. There's still one more disadvantage to prolonged bottle feeding: The bottle can become a security object, particularly if your baby keeps it beyond about age one. To avoid this, don't let him carry or drink from a bottle while playing. Restrict the use of a bottle to feedings when he's sitting down or being held. At all other times, give him a cup. If you never allow him to take the bottle with him, he won't realize that bringing it along is even an option. Don't relent once this decision has been made, or it could prompt him to demand a bottle again long after he has "officially" been weaned. " My mother was unable to breastfeed (or at least believed she was unable; since I'm 51 and my youngest sister is 33, it's been a while). But she absolutly insisted that the BIGGEST advantage to breastfeeding was that breastfed babies were never propped: they were always in contact with another human being when they were being fed. So, in our house, any baby being given a bottle was always also being held. She also never let the baby hold the bottle without someone else's hand on it, too. (Added bonus was that Mom had a good excuse to get off her feet -- and with, at one point, four teenagers and a toddler and a baby, I'm sure that came in handy.) While this is different from the APA's position, it is consistant. Oh -- and she also never put anything but formula in bottles; water and juice were drunk out of cups or glasses -- and I don't think she ever owned a sippy cup. meh -- Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care |
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Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?
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dragonlady says... In article , "dejablues" wrote: From http://www.aap.org/pubserv/weaning.htm "During this process you may be tempted to put milk or juice in his bottle to help him go to sleep, but don't do it. If he falls asleep while feeding, the milk or juice will pool around his teeth, and this can cause his incoming teeth to decay--a condition known as nursing-bottle syndrome. To make matters worse, drinking while lying flat on his back can also contribute to middle-ear infections, since the liquid may actually flow through the eustachian tube into the middle ear. There's still one more disadvantage to prolonged bottle feeding: The bottle can become a security object, particularly if your baby keeps it beyond about age one. To avoid this, don't let him carry or drink from a bottle while playing. Restrict the use of a bottle to feedings when he's sitting down or being held. At all other times, give him a cup. If you never allow him to take the bottle with him, he won't realize that bringing it along is even an option. Don't relent once this decision has been made, or it could prompt him to demand a bottle again long after he has "officially" been weaned. " My mother was unable to breastfeed (or at least believed she was unable; since I'm 51 and my youngest sister is 33, it's been a while). But she absolutly insisted that the BIGGEST advantage to breastfeeding was that breastfed babies were never propped: they were always in contact with another human being when they were being fed. So, in our house, any baby being given a bottle was always also being held. She also never let the baby hold the bottle without someone else's hand on it, too. (Added bonus was that Mom had a good excuse to get off her feet -- and with, at one point, four teenagers and a toddler and a baby, I'm sure that came in handy.) While this is different from the APA's position, it is consistant. Well, this is one of those medical things where it's good to know the reasoning, then intellegently apply it to one's own situation. I let my son have his bottles until he weaned himself off of them at 18 months. He had been unintersted in an evening bottle for some time - he hung on to his *morning* bottle, which he'd always toss somewhere when he was done (he never did much have a lovey of any sort). There was no temptation for me to leave him to fall asleep with milk in his mouth. Similar with the rule not to warm up bottles in the microwave. Once I read up on it and found that it's not a matter of the milk deteriorating or anything like that, but rather a matter of concern over hot spots in unmixed milk, I went ahead and heated his bottles up in the microwave. Because I know, with just me in the house, with a firm habit of shaking the bottle after microwaving, it wouldn't be a problem. Banty |
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Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?
Ruth Shear wrote:
Truffles wrote: I'm trying to teach them to drink from an open cup. Right now they sit on a towel and drink from the cup, but half the time they pour out the water to see what happens. LOL! ;-) Us too. Just make sure you clean up ALL the spills. DS has had several nasty spills by stepping in the smallest drop or two of water on the floor which send his feet flying up and he falls backwards landing on the back of his head first before the rest of his body lands. The last time this happened we spent a few hours in hospital getting a CAT scan to rule out concussion (because he hit his head the same day that he caught a rotavirus so his vomiting was a coincidence). Alas, we have carpet in our house. :-( But, thanks for the warning. It might not be very pertinent to us but I'm sure it is for others. -- Brigitte aa #2145 edd #3 February 15, 2004 http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/ "Readers are plentiful; thinkers are rare." ~ Harriet Martineau |
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Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?
Dorothy wrote:
Frankly I think it's hogwash. Security objects are not detrimental in fact they are helpful to babies emotional health. If he does get attached to a bottle so what.. Let him carry around one with water or an empty one. In fact a different page on the AAP site quoted says exactly this, though not about bottles as such: "Despite myths to the contrary, transitional objects are not a sign of weakness or insecurity, and there's no reason to keep your child from using one. In fact, a transitional object can be so helpful that you may want to help him choose one and build it into his nighttime ritual." http://www.aap.org/pubserv/transobj.htm I found the juxtaposition pretty funny. :-) --Helen, a Linus fan from way back |
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Reason for weaning from bottle at 1 yo?
Truffles wrote:
What is the reasoning behind weaning off of bottles to sippy cups by one year? Are there studies showing detrimental effects from continued use of bottles? It just seems to me one year is a little early to wean off a bottle. Also, *IMO* a sippy cup is just a glorified bottle that's harder to clean. I'm in no hurry to wean my twins off of bottles. Nipples are easier to clean than valves. They take their water in sippy cups and milk in bottles. Does anyone know? I'm not sure why there's such a rush to get rid of bottles after 12 months. My feeling was always that I would at least comfort breastfeed a toddler into his third year if he wanted it. So it seemed natural to continue bottle feeding that long for the same reasons. I was able to bf my eldest child until he weaned himself at around 18 months but my daughter was bottlefed from 3 - 4 months until 2ish. I think she gave it up when she dropped her daytime nap and she was then ready to let it go. My youngest is almost 30 months and he has a bottle of cow's milk when going to bed and sometimes when he's ill or upset. I am reluctant to stop it just yet just because it is so successful as a calming agent. Another reason is that he is one of those children who isn't very interested in food and exists on fruit, yoghurt and vegemite toast. However, he's starting to drop his daytime nap so I don't think his bottle will last much longer. He can drink out of a normal cup and bottles are always given from someone's arms and never left in his cot. None of my children have had trouble with their teeth or speech, and, though none were early talkers, the older two had no problems and speak well (13 and 11) and the youngest is progressing normally. I think you should do whatever you feel is good for your babies and what makes your life easiest. Especially with twins! BTW I've always found straw cups better than sippy cups. When they tip them over you only get a small amount of spillage from whatever's in the straw at the time and I found my children could suck on a straw far more effectively and earlier than they could on a valved sippy cup. Tai |
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