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Supreme Court of Canada made their ruling
So there it is, the spanking law has been upheld. I'm a little surprised I
think, but I will give it some thought. I will say however, that I totally support the position of teachers. Here's a link: http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/01/30/spanking040130 Lisa |
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'Kate wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:55:27 -0500, "Lisa aka Surfer" So there it is, the spanking law has been upheld. I'm a little surprised I think, but I will give it some thought. I will say however, that I totally support the position of teachers. Here's a link: http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/01/30/spanking040130 Lisa They should have included parameters regarding number of times per week or month too. There will be parents using this form of discipline every day thinking that it's perfectly ok because it's legal. The age group, 2 to 12, should have been considered more carefully. I can't imagine spanking a 10 or 12 year old girl, for example. 'Kate No......but maybe a 22 y.o. one ;-) |
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"P.Fritz" wrote in message
... 'Kate wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:55:27 -0500, "Lisa aka Surfer" So there it is, the spanking law has been upheld. I'm a little surprised I think, but I will give it some thought. I will say however, that I totally support the position of teachers. Here's a link: http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/01/30/spanking040130 They should have included parameters regarding number of times per week or month too. There will be parents using this form of discipline every day thinking that it's perfectly ok because it's legal. The age group, 2 to 12, should have been considered more carefully. I can't imagine spanking a 10 or 12 year old girl, for example. No......but maybe a 22 y.o. one ;-) Or even a 42 year old one, come to that. :-)) -- Paul Griffiths |
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'Kate wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:55:27 -0500, "Lisa aka Surfer" So there it is, the spanking law has been upheld. I'm a little surprised I think, but I will give it some thought. I will say however, that I totally support the position of teachers. Here's a link: http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/01/30/spanking040130 Lisa They should have included parameters regarding number of times per week or month too. There will be parents using this form of discipline every day thinking that it's perfectly ok because it's legal. The age group, 2 to 12, should have been considered more carefully. I can't imagine spanking a 10 or 12 year old girl, for example. 'Kate I couldn't even consider spanking a 7 or 8 yo although I do not exactly agree in spanking a child my daughter of 2yrs old minds just well with "time outs" she ALWAYS says her pleases and thank you's and if someone sneezes she says Bless you. and all that good stuff she can eat with a fork and knows when I say "No Ma'am" it means no. I have never had to physically Discipline my daughter ever, and never plan to either. |
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:55:27 -0500, "Lisa aka Surfer"
wrote: So there it is, the spanking law has been upheld. I'm a little surprised I think, but I will give it some thought. I will say however, that I totally support the position of teachers. I'm happy it's been upheld. I don't think spanking is the best strategy most or all of the time, but neither do I think the occasional spank should make a parent a criminal. And the law was about more than spanking. It also includes any kind of physical force, and Terry's right, separating kids in a schoolyard fight generally involves some physical force to yank 'em apart. Be a shame to have us allowing 'em to beat each other to pulps because it's a criminal act to separate them. As it happens, I know Terry Price. She's a Yukoner and was the YTA president the year I left. Really terrific person. Awesome teacher and very caring human being. Take care. Cele Here's a link: http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/01/30/spanking040130 Lisa |
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'Kate wrote in message I'm not sure about the effect of time-outs over a lifespan. They are a relatively new form of punishment and using isolation/withdrawal may have repercussions too. Doing the least harm, or the lesser of two evils, should be the guide whether it's a swat on a behind or a time-out. I think some children respond to physical punishment with fewer repercussions than emotional punishment and vice versa. I had to go and see Freddie's teacher last year about her sending Freddie to stand outside the classroom as a style of punishment. It did not suit him at all and I saw it as a form of humiliation that was way over the top as a form of "punishment". I listened to the teachers excuses and rational but said that I saw it more of an indication that it was she who had the problems and it was up to her to find a way to control the children without bullying or humitiating them. I thought it was all sorted until I was chatting to another parent over the weekend who told me that he too has had to go and see the same teacher for the same reasons. Worse still, he said that his son had mentioned that Freddie is still subjected to this and is consistantly picked on by this particular teacher. So, do I go back to the teacher, or the the head, who I know will defend the teacher, or write to the board, who will write back and tell me to take it up with the teacher? Dennis |
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On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 21:38:14 -0000, "Dennis Here" Dennis@Large .ie
wrote: 'Kate wrote in message I'm not sure about the effect of time-outs over a lifespan. They are a relatively new form of punishment and using isolation/withdrawal may have repercussions too. Doing the least harm, or the lesser of two evils, should be the guide whether it's a swat on a behind or a time-out. I think some children respond to physical punishment with fewer repercussions than emotional punishment and vice versa. I had to go and see Freddie's teacher last year about her sending Freddie to stand outside the classroom as a style of punishment. It did not suit him at all and I saw it as a form of humiliation that was way over the top as a form of "punishment". I listened to the teachers excuses and rational but said that I saw it more of an indication that it was she who had the problems and it was up to her to find a way to control the children without bullying or humitiating them. I thought it was all sorted until I was chatting to another parent over the weekend who told me that he too has had to go and see the same teacher for the same reasons. Worse still, he said that his son had mentioned that Freddie is still subjected to this and is consistantly picked on by this particular teacher. So, do I go back to the teacher, or the the head, who I know will defend the teacher, or write to the board, who will write back and tell me to take it up with the teacher? He is taught by the same teacher over two years? I would write to the teacher and copy the head on it. Always have a third party involved in such communications, and put as much of it as possible in writing. Could be that that particular punishment is what the teacher uses with all the children, and your objecting to it is putting Freddie in the spotlight more than he would have been otherwise. Not saying the teacher is right or wrong, mind you. Bear in mind that I've been through the wringer enough that I find it necessary to put just about everything in writing, but even so, it *is* effective. lm |
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Dennis Here Dennis@Large .ie wrote in message ... 'Kate wrote in message I'm not sure about the effect of time-outs over a lifespan. They are a relatively new form of punishment and using isolation/withdrawal may have repercussions too. Doing the least harm, or the lesser of two evils, should be the guide whether it's a swat on a behind or a time-out. I think some children respond to physical punishment with fewer repercussions than emotional punishment and vice versa. I had to go and see Freddie's teacher last year about her sending Freddie to stand outside the classroom as a style of punishment. It did not suit him at all and I saw it as a form of humiliation that was way over the top as a form of "punishment". I listened to the teachers excuses and rational but said that I saw it more of an indication that it was she who had the problems and it was up to her to find a way to control the children without bullying or humitiating them. I thought it was all sorted until I was chatting to another parent over the weekend who told me that he too has had to go and see the same teacher for the same reasons. Worse still, he said that his son had mentioned that Freddie is still subjected to this and is consistantly picked on by this particular teacher. So, do I go back to the teacher, or the the head, who I know will defend the teacher, or write to the board, who will write back and tell me to take it up with the teacher? Dennis One thing I learn in business is to follow proper procedure. Start at the bottom and work your way up. T |
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