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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?
On Apr 15, 10:53*pm, wrote:
On Apr 15, 9:27*pm, Myrl wrote: On Apr 15, 5:31*pm, wrote: Can we agree that anything you "inject" into your body is anywhere from 10 times to 100 times more harmful that something you may eat, breathe, or smear on your skin? DrCee With tht logic, you should then agree that nasal spray flu vaccines are safer than injected flu vaccines? It is not simple logic Myrl, it is a scientific fact. Then you should have no problem proving it. Tick, tick, tick.... |
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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?
I hope Mark got his.
"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 8:31 pm, wrote: On Apr 15, 8:05 pm, Jeff wrote: Jan Drew wrote: One of the most dramatic contributors to our chemical load is vaccinations. Dramatic, perhaps. But not significant. We get much more exposure to chemicals in the food we eat, air we breath, the chemicals we use (like household cleaners) and the stupid things we do, like smoking. The makeup women cover their faces with is full of chemicals, too. Jeff Can we agree that anything you "inject" into your body is anywhere from 10 times to 100 times more harmful that something you may eat, breathe, or smear on your skin? Not until you prove it using facts. |
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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?
"Jan Drew" wrote in message ... " Skeptic" wrote: Smoking a cigarrette Off-topic It was a straight answer to a very simple question (that you snipped). |
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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?
I also hope that "Skeptic" got his too.
"Skeptic" wrote in message news:76wNj.123282$yE1.34815@attbi_s21... "Jan Drew" wrote in message ... " Skeptic" wrote: Smoking a cigarrette Off-topic It was a straight answer to a very simple question (that you snipped). |
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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?
"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 8:31 pm, wrote: On Apr 15, 8:05 pm, Jeff wrote: Jan Drew wrote: "Jan Drew" wrote in message news One of the most dramatic contributors to our chemical load is vaccinations. There is growing controversy surrounding this topic. Many questions have not been answered to the satisfaction of vaccination. http://intentionmethod.blogspot.com/...ss-part-1.html Chemical Stress Part 1 Because this is the most hidden form of stress (and most misunderstood), we will spend a large amount of time here in an attempt to bring awareness to this topic. Knowledge is power and avoiding or at least being conscious of chemical stress can greatly affect our overall health. As a society, our chemical load has increased tremendously over the last 50 to 100 years. This type of stress bombards us each and every day and can originate from a variety of sources like our environment, nature, vaccinations, drugs/medications (legal & illegal), personal hygiene products and our food. Our environment adds to our tension levels in a number of ways. There are toxins in our air and drinking water that cause us stress when we ingest them. Drinking water, unless distilled or purified, will increase your chemical load with each sip. For example, chlorine & fluoride are commonly added to our water supply. Chlorine, which is used to help sanitize the water, kills the good bacteria in our digestive tract and also reacts to other substances in the water to become toxins that have been linked to asthma & various forms of cancer. Fluoride, which is added to supposedly help fight tooth decay, is a poison in the same class as the deadly arsenic and cyanide. The US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) - categorizes fluoride as "a drinking water contaminant" which may be linked to osteoporosis, cancer and a higher infant mortality rate. Finland, Germany, France, Sweden and The Netherlands have all banned fluoridation in their water supply due to its dangers and lack of evidence of its effectiveness to actually help tooth decay. Many cities and counties are now using reclaimed water for use by their population, which has created a number of problems. Recent headlines pointed out the fact that traces of prescription drugs were found in the water supply of many urban areas. Also, it is not unusual for bacteria linked to feces, like E-Coli, to be found in our tap water. Other ecological stressors include the effects of increasing radiation levels from the sun, which have been measured for years. Extreme environmental conditions, like heat & cold, can cause major problems (heat stroke & frost bite). Also, due to technological advances, a negative effect on us has been created from electro-magnetic radiation (from cell phones, radio waves, microwaves, etc.), which is constantly in our immediate surroundings. Anyone who suffers from seasonal allergies is well aware that nature can be a major cause of our chemical stress. By dispersing pollen to create hay fever during "allergy season", nature can cause an incredibly uncomfortable response for some. Also, the sting or bite of an insect or animal may cause a slight negative reaction for some while it can be extremely dangerous for others (anaphylactic shock, Rabies, Lyme Disease, etc.). http://intentionmethod.blogspot.com/...ss-part-2.html Chemical Stress Part 2 Do you get an annual Flu Shot? One of the most dramatic contributors to our chemical load is vaccinations. There is growing controversy surrounding this topic. Many questions have not been answered to the satisfaction of vaccination critics. For example: Are they safe? What are the long-term effects of mass vaccination to our society? Do they actually work to prevent disease? The 2007 immunization schedule put out by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), called for 68 vaccine injections to be given to all children by the age of 18 (36 of which are to be administered by the age of 18 months). These shots were not designed to cause us harm, however, often times they do. A quick look at some of the components of these injections will make it clear how these negative responses are possible. Here is a partial ingredient list for the majority of shots that are routinely given to our population: · Formaldehyde: A carcinogenic embalming fluid according to the 2007 Physicians Desk Reference (PDR). May cause nerve, liver and kidney damage. · Antifreeze (phenol-phenoxyethanol): Neuro-toxin that also affects the liver and kidneys. · Mercury (thimerosal): One of the most poisonous substances known. Can cause permanent nerve damage and autoimmune disorders. · Aluminum: Potent neurotoxin that causes brain damage and is linked to Alzheimer's disease. · Ammonium sulfate: Suspected gastrointestinal and/or liver toxin, neurotoxin and respiratory irritant. · Polysorbate 80: Known to cause cancer in animals. · Glutaraldehyde: Caused birth defects in animal experiments. · MSG (monosodium glutamate): Neurotoxin that many people have mild to severe allergies to. · Human & Animal DNA & Cells: This is the active part of the vaccine according to the 2007 PDR. Includes lung cells of aborted human fetus, human blood, infected human cells, kidneys of African green monkeys, infected animal cells from monkey, pig, calf, canary, rabbit, chicken and guinea pig. Drugs, both legal & illegal, can lead to an enormous amount of stress on us. The failed "War on Drugs" has been officially going on since the early 1980's & the risks of doing drugs has been embedded into most of us for many years now. The risk of alcohol and tobacco use is also well known due to increased education & awareness over the last few decades. Prescription and over-the-counter medications absolutely raise our overall chemical load as well. Thanks to all of the television ads that must verbalize the long list of possible negative reactions caused by each specific drug, these negative side effects from taking medications are now just beginning to gain recognition. Personal hygiene products can be a large source of chemical stress. Do you use hairspray, hair gel, shampoo, hand & body soap? How about make-up, perfume, cologne, shaving cream and after shave lotion? Look at the ingredient list of these daily personal products and you will learn that you are absorbing some chemicals that you probably were not aware of. For example, most deodorants and antiperspirants contain a wide range of harsh chemicals including aluminum. Most toothpaste also contains fluoride (and you probably rinse with fluoridated water). Start reading labels on these types of products & educate yourself about what you are being exposed to. One of the most dramatic contributors to our chemical load is vaccinations. Dramatic, perhaps. But not significant. We get much more exposure to chemicals in the food we eat, air we breath, the chemicals we use (like household cleaners) and the stupid things we do, like smoking. The makeup women cover their faces with is full of chemicals, too. Jeff Can we agree that anything you "inject" into your body is anywhere from 10 times to 100 times more harmful that something you may eat, breathe, or smear on your skin? Not until you prove it using facts. |
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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?
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wrote: On Apr 15, 8:05*pm, Jeff wrote: Jan Drew wrote: One of the most dramatic contributors to our chemical load is vaccinations. Dramatic, perhaps. But not significant. We get much more exposure to chemicals in the food we eat, air we breath, the chemicals we use (like household cleaners) and the stupid things we do, like smoking. The makeup women cover their faces with is full of chemicals, too. Jeff Can we agree that anything you "inject" into your body is anywhere from 10 times to 100 times more harmful that something you may eat, breathe, or smear on your skin? Injecting a little distilled water would be far less disturbing than getting it into your breathing system. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers." -- John Dolan |
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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?
Wasn't somebody just arguing that we need to be more
careful about metals, preservatives and chemicals what we inject into our bodies along with vaccines? It looks like the pro-vaccine lobbyists here actually argued about that point. Is that a position common to the pro-vaccine lobbyists? What's their excuse for all of the chemical JUNK getting injected along with the vaccine itself? Are they arguing that it has to be there? The ingestion v. injection thing is about the relative tolerance for impurities. Our gut can't always filter out unwanted chemicals but at least it's a mechanism for that, bypassed on injection. Don't impurities injected into our bloodstream, especially metallic and very toxic ones, represent an unusually direct challenge to our kidneys and immune systems? If I was making stuff to go into people's bloodstreams I would look at byproducts and preservatives as a HUGE liability. If the government and the vaccine injury fund are cloaks to protect these companies from those liabilities, hasn't this (legal shield) been a huge disservice to the citizen public? Indirectly INVITING sloppy work that normal liability concerns would have prevented.. Exempting them from concerns for liability seems insane. Congressman Grassley from Iowa is going after the FDA about a problem with approval of drugs and medical devices, particualrly, he is digging into an issue of serious conflicts of interest for medical reviewers involved in the FDA approval process. The steam roller impenetrable front that professionals have run people over with for years is due for some trouble. Questioning every last tiny bit of byproduct and preservative in the vaccines is going to happen. Do the pro-vaccine lobbyists hate this? I got the argument that trace amounts don't matter. Recently there was news about psychotropics filtering into the nations water supply and being covered up "for our own good". The concern that raised is not about immedate effects, but LONG TERM low level exposure. Did the pro-vaccine people shrug that off also? |
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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?
On Apr 16, 7:07*pm, "news" wrote:
I hope Mark got his. Never miss it. One year I did, and I regretted it. Never again. "Mark Probert" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 8:31 pm, wrote: On Apr 15, 8:05 pm, Jeff wrote: Jan Drew wrote: One of the most dramatic contributors to our chemical load is vaccinations. Dramatic, perhaps. But not significant. We get much more exposure to chemicals in the food we eat, air we breath, the chemicals we use (like household cleaners) and the stupid things we do, like smoking. The makeup women cover their faces with is full of chemicals, too. Jeff Can we agree that anything you "inject" into your body is anywhere from 10 times to 100 times more harmful that something you may eat, breathe, or smear on your skin? Not until you prove it using facts.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?
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Greegor wrote: ................... If the government and the vaccine injury fund are cloaks to protect these companies from those liabilities, hasn't this (legal shield) been a huge disservice to the citizen public? Indirectly INVITING sloppy work that normal liability concerns would have prevented.. Exempting them from concerns for liability seems insane. There are adverse reactions one can get from flu shots. A weak allergy to eggs can suddenly become a strong one to the flu shot, and there are other adverse immune reactions. The risks are sufficiently great, and the profit sufficiently low, that without these guarantees the flu shots would not be available. Now there is considerable disagreement about the value of flu shots, with arguments on both sides. It is necessary to balance the risks against the benefits, and as benefiting from the flu vaccine is not the same as taking it, the public health issue requires the government to take a stand, and it has, recommending the vaccines. Would you be willing to manufacture something which, if made ACCORDING TO SPECIFICATIONS, would subject you to enormous lawsuits? -- This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University. Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558 |
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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?
If the government and the vaccine injury fund are cloaks
to protect these companies from those liabilities, hasn't this (legal shield) been a huge disservice to the citizen public? * Indirectly INVITING sloppy work that normal liability concerns would have prevented.. Exempting them from concerns for liability seems insane. There are adverse reactions one can get from flu shots. *A weak allergy to eggs can suddenly become a strong one to the flu shot, and there are other adverse immune reactions. *The risks are sufficiently great, and the profit sufficiently low, that without these guarantees the flu shots would not be available. But shouldn't the pharmaceutical company lose any immunity when they defraud the FDA to obtain drug approval, or cover up problems? What are the limits to the immunities granted to the pharmaceutical companies? Now there is considerable disagreement about the value of flu shots, with arguments on both sides. *It is necessary to balance the risks against the benefits, and as benefiting from the flu vaccine is not the same as taking it, the public health issue requires the government to take a stand, and it has, recommending the vaccines. And of course government is wise, responsible and loves us. (sarc) Would you be willing to manufacture something which, if made ACCORDING TO SPECIFICATIONS, would subject you to enormous lawsuits? Who wrote specifications allowing all of the byproducts, chemicals and preservatives? Are they accepting RESPONSIBLITY? |
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