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frustrated with Doctor. Am I rightfullt so? (a bit long, but need
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-- Jamie & Taylor Earth Angel, 1/3/03 Check out Taylor Marlys -- www.MyFamily.com, User ID: Clarkguest1, Password: Guest Become a member for free - go to Add Member to set up your own User ID and Password Check out our Adoption Page at http://home.earthlink.net/~jamielee6 "Vicki S" wrote in message om... (Hillary Israeli) wrote: Every single visibly pregnant woman, mare, ewe, cow, bitch, queen or doe I have ever seen has had a lump on her abdomen!! I know the other ones, but what female mammal is a queen?!? -- -- Vicki Married DH May 21, 1995. Ima shel Sullen, born 11/16/99; Chatty, born at home 5/19/02, and Expected, "due" September 4, 2004. |
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frustrated with Doctor. Am I rightfullt so? (a bit long, but need
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Donna wrote: * A cat! * *No kidding. I was wondering the same thing. Sorry, I didn't know it was not common knowledge. *While we're on the subject.... my latin is a bit rusty. Does your sig *translate to "A cow is divided into four parts."? grin The UDDER of a cow is divided into four parts -- hillary israeli vmd http://www.hillary.net "uber vaccae in quattuor partes divisum est." not-so-newly minted veterinarian-at-large |
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frustrated with Doctor. Am I rightfullt so? (a bit long, but need
"Hillary Israeli" wrote in message
... In , Donna wrote: * A cat! * *No kidding. I was wondering the same thing. Sorry, I didn't know it was not common knowledge. *While we're on the subject.... my latin is a bit rusty. Does your sig *translate to "A cow is divided into four parts."? grin The UDDER of a cow is divided into four parts -- hillary israeli vmd http://www.hillary.net "uber vaccae in quattuor partes divisum est." not-so-newly minted veterinarian-at-large Ooh, good. To us non-veterinary peoples, that makes SOOOOO much more sense! -- Jamie & Taylor Earth Angel, 1/3/03 Check out Taylor Marlys -- www.MyFamily.com, User ID: Clarkguest1, Password: Guest Become a member for free - go to Add Member to set up your own User ID and Password Check out our Adoption Page at http://home.earthlink.net/~jamielee6 |
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frustrated with Doctor. Am I rightfullt so? (a bit long, butneed help!)
I do have a book on pregnancy (What to expect when you're expecting).
But I feel that the questions I ask have not been discussed in the book. Donna wrote: "zolw" wrote in message news:0hxrc.92897$iF6.8119737@attbi_s02... Oh yeah, he sure is sensible, but it really would have been much better f he would have explained it to me like you just did. He just kept repeating that I should come 6 weeks after delivery. Then had to ask him, well what is the routine, do you install it right after delivery or after these 6 weeks have passed. That is when he decided to give me an answer. I am not sure that it is right to have to drag words out of his mouth. I am glad he knows what he is doing, but I do not always have answers to gynocological questions & it is his job to explain them to me. Mona, a lot of the questions you seem to be needing extended answers to are fairly basic, and can be found in almost any good pregnancy reference. Do you have a book on pregnancy? Donna |
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frustrated with Doctor. Am I rightfullt so? (a bit long, but
zolw wrote:
I do have a book on pregnancy (What to expect when you're expecting). But I feel that the questions I ask have not been discussed in the book. I know that's one of the most popular books, but frankly, it's not a very good one. There's a lot of misinformation in it, and it's more a how-to-be-a-compliant- patient book than something that will give you more information or a different perspective that will allow you to think critically about your doctor's advice. Personally, I would recommend something like Henci Goer's _The Thinking Woman's Guide to a Better Birth_ or Enkins, et al.'s _Guide to Effective Care in Pregnancy and Childbirth_. Best wishes, Ericka |
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frustrated with Doctor. Am I rightfullt so? (a bit long, but need help!)
I am a book person, and a knowledge gatherer, so I tend to get 5-8 books on
any particular topic, read them all, then use what info I can, and discard the rest. I did it with my pregnancies, my infertility, my pg losses, my adoption, and now my baby. One book -- pish tosh! Get at least 4 more, with different viewpoints! And, WTEWYE sucks. HATED IT. Threw it away, wouldn't even lend it out! Yuck. -- Jamie & Taylor Earth Angel, 1/3/03 Check out Taylor Marlys -- www.MyFamily.com, User ID: Clarkguest1, Password: Guest Become a member for free - go to Add Member to set up your own User ID and Password Check out our Adoption Page at http://home.earthlink.net/~jamielee6 "zolw" wrote in message news:MCvsc.37944$zw.7884@attbi_s01... I do have a book on pregnancy (What to expect when you're expecting). But I feel that the questions I ask have not been discussed in the book. Donna wrote: "zolw" wrote in message news:0hxrc.92897$iF6.8119737@attbi_s02... Oh yeah, he sure is sensible, but it really would have been much better f he would have explained it to me like you just did. He just kept repeating that I should come 6 weeks after delivery. Then had to ask him, well what is the routine, do you install it right after delivery or after these 6 weeks have passed. That is when he decided to give me an answer. I am not sure that it is right to have to drag words out of his mouth. I am glad he knows what he is doing, but I do not always have answers to gynocological questions & it is his job to explain them to me. Mona, a lot of the questions you seem to be needing extended answers to are fairly basic, and can be found in almost any good pregnancy reference. Do you have a book on pregnancy? Donna |
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Jamie Clark wrote: *"Hillary Israeli" wrote in message * * The UDDER of a cow is divided into four parts * *Ooh, good. To us non-veterinary peoples, that makes SOOOOO much more sense! OK, BE that way Seriously, it's actually kind of interesting if you are interested in lactation, and I'm sure lots of readers here are, so I will expound a tiny bit. Anatomically speaking, a mammary gland is the teat plus all of the ducts that open into that teat. A mare has 4 ductal systems, but only 2 teats, whereas a cow has 4 ductal systems and 4 teats. This is useful because if there is an infection in one quarter of the cow, you can treat it by infusing through the teat, and it doesn't communicate with the other quarters. The cow also has a septum between the left and right halves of the udder, so you could if you had to remove the left half of the udder cleanly (say, to treat a gangrenous mastitis in a breeding animal) - but there is no such clear-cut division between the cranial and caudal halves of the udder, so if you just wanted to amputate say the cranial right hand quarter, you'd probably end up cutting some of the ducts of the caudal right quarter. Pigs, if you're still reading, have double duct systems like the mare, with two sets of ducts per teat. Bitches have even more duct systems per teat. I have some notes on this sort of stuff he http://www.hillary.net/school/spring...o.lec.04.30.97 I see a questionable statement in there from my repro professor though She said "in humans, it is quite normal not to see any milk secretion til about a day after parturition. usually, human infants are supplemented with water or glucose water during that first day while waiting for milk to come in." -- hillary israeli vmd http://www.hillary.net "uber vaccae in quattuor partes divisum est." not-so-newly minted veterinarian-at-large |
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frustrated with Doctor. Am I rightfullt so? (a bit long, but need help!)
"Jamie Clark" wrote in message ink.net... I am a book person, and a knowledge gatherer, so I tend to get 5-8 books on any particular topic, read them all, then use what info I can, and discard the rest. I did it with my pregnancies, my infertility, my pg losses, my adoption, and now my baby. One book -- pish tosh! Get at least 4 more, with different viewpoints! And, WTEWYE sucks. HATED IT. Threw it away, wouldn't even lend it out! Yuck. -- Jamie & Taylor Earth Angel, 1/3/03 I hate it when people try to recommend pregnancy books to me and they say that one. How do you nicely tell someone their fave book is crap?? Lol. |
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frustrated with Doctor. Am I rightfullt so? (a bit long, butneedhelp!)
Ok, to follow up from my 'bold' statement earlier...
I have spoken to several people at work (doctors and other experienced midwives) who all seem to agree that placental insufficiency is not carried over onto the next pregnancy unless there is a reason (maternal age, smoking, etc). And... certainly not carried over to siblings! The only reason we sort of came up with is if a woman has an immune disorder where her body semi rejects the placenta ( as suspected as a possible cause of preeclampsia). As for a woman who does not go into labour... how long did she wait before deciding to induce? Many inductions are 'failed' due to being done too early. HTH Jo(RM) JoFromOz wrote: ooh, I just read something interesting - placental insufficiency is protective against prostate cancer in the baby throughout life! I will talk to the consultant OBs at work about this - I've honestly never heard of P.I. being more likely in subsequent pregnancies. I have, however heard of IUGR being more likely, most probably due to lifestyle factors. I'm not working again 'till Monday, but I'll get back when I find out for you. However, I don't see how seeing two doctors can avoid problems if there is P.I... Jo (RM) zolw wrote: That's actually not true. My sister had 3 pregnancies (2 children, since she lost one of them in the 9th month) & in all 3 cases she had placenta insufficiency. Actually the doctors (she was seeing 2 doctors at te same time, to avoid having the same problem as with her unborn child) all agreed that if a woman has placenta insufficiency once, she is at much higher risk to have it every time. JoFromOz wrote: Placental insufficiency in one pregnancy has nothing to do with the health of the placenta in subsequent pregnancies, let alone a pregnancy in another woman. It is also not that uncommon for inductions to fail when a woman isn't ready to go into labour. I really think that your sister's placental problems have anything to do with you. That placenta was formed when the fertilised egg implanted into her uterus... The body doesn't make the same placenta twice Jo (RM) Welches wrote: zolw wrote in message news:E2Qqc.7387$zw.4579@attbi_s01... yes, my sister has a condition called placenta insufficiency. Apparently her placenta ages quickly. At the same time, she does not get contractions or go into labor, even after induction. I have already told my doctor about that (the first few appointments I tried to give him as much family history as possible. I have an aunt who would miscarriage every single pregnancy at 6 months. Never had a child. My mom menopaused at the age of 38. So, I thought all that may be real important for him to know), he just said ok. Didn't even jot it down or anything. I probably should mention it to him once more. I wonder whether he might think it's appropriate to check (via u/s) the placenta in 8th month. (apparently they can do this) Remind him about your sister, and ask him whether it would be a good idea. Might be a good idea to see if your insurance would cover this. Suspect the aunt's problems were unrelated, and genetically she's probably considered far enough from you not to be concerned-and you're past 6 months :-) Maybe if you haven't insurance for it you might think it was worth paying to check the placenta? I don't know whether there is any genetic aspect in placenta insufficiency-maybe that would be a good point to start-by asking your doctor that. Debbie |
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JoFromOz wrote:
As for a woman who does not go into labour... how long did she wait before deciding to induce? Many inductions are 'failed' due to being done too early. My mom was one of these! She was induced with each one of us (4 babies) sometime before 42 weeks. With her last (my sister), she was determined to go into labor on her own- and she did at a little past 42 weeks. Then labor stalled at the hospital and she agreed to whatever it was they gave you back then to get things going. Isn't it Monica (Larry's wife) that went over 43 weeks with both of hers? Mary |
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