If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
the dreaded "sleep thru night" thread
I've been reading a lot of newsgroup archives on this issue on google and
it seems like a pretty hot topic. My son started sleeping thru the night at 3 months. We let him cry it out and in 30 minutes he was down. We moved and this threw his schedule off. My wife wasn't able to let him cry it out again. Now he's nearly 6 months and his schedule is horribly off. He's cranky some days, fine other days. Some days it's a 4hr nap, some days it's no nap. Nights are a mess. He's usually up every 15minutes and pacifcying himself on my wife and then he finally goes to bed for a few hours. He wakes up does the nuzzling bit for about 2hrs and then sleeps again for a few more hours. We tried letting him cry it out but this time it's different. He's a lot tougher than before. We did 1hr, and it was killing me. His voice is so much louder than before and if I even open the door quitely he picks up on it and cries louder. He's on a set schedule again (rice cereal in the am, going for a walk in the afternoon, solids in the evening, bath in the evening at pretty much set times) but we just can't get him to sleep unless my wife is next to him let him nuzzle on her breast on and off thru the night. We tried the "baby whisperer" method of picking him up, calming him down and putting him back down but that has not worked so far since it takes over 20minutes to calm him down. Right now for 2nights in a row we went over 2hrs of letting him cry and nothing. No progress. He's just hysterical. What do we do? What's the longest length someone will let them "cry it out"? He's not teething. He's not gassy (he's well burped thru the day). He's probably not even that hungry because the wife says he's just pacifying himself thru the night on her breast. He's never cared much for using a pacifier either and when we've tried to pull the "switcheroo" (moving him from breast to pacifier) it never seems to work. So, question is...how long has anyone let there baby CIO? The 1st time around at 3 months, 30-40minutes was painful but it worked. This time around it is so much harder. Also, I know a lot of people are opposed to the CIO method but I can't function at work on the 3-5hrs of sleep I get and my son is always happiest when he gets a really long sleep at night. Any suggestions? We just went in and got him again and he cried for 2hrs. |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
the dreaded "sleep thru night" thread
wrote:7 So, question is...how long has anyone let there baby CIO? The 1st time around at 3 months, 30-40minutes was painful but it worked. This time around it is so much harder. Also, I know a lot of people are opposed to the CIO method but I can't function at work on the 3-5hrs of sleep I get and my son is always happiest when he gets a really long sleep at night. Any suggestions? We just went in and got him again and he cried for 2hrs. I can't fathom how anyone could think that this was good for the kid. Regardless, if Plan A isn't working, why stick with it? Especially when... He's on a set schedule again (rice cereal in the am, going for a walk in the afternoon, solids in the evening, bath in the evening at pretty much set times) but we just can't get him to sleep unless my wife is next to him let him nuzzle on her breast on and off thru the night. Sounds like a plan. Ride it for awhile. P. Tierney |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
the dreaded "sleep thru night" thread
Well letting a six month old cry himself to sleep isn't something that I
personally would do. I think perhaps your son is having a hard time adjusting to his new envoirnment and he possibly may need to be closer to you and your wife. Is there any possibility that you and your wife could co-sleep with him for a while until this passes. Or your wife could lay down with him until he is really in a deep sleep? It's a funny things with kids, the more you are with them and attend to their needs, the more secure they feel and the less fussy they can be. The more you try to push them away and make them do things they are not ready for (i.e. putting himself to sleep) the more fussy they are. Hang in there. I do hope things get better for you. ) -- Sue (mom to three girls) I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World... wrote in message ... I've been reading a lot of newsgroup archives on this issue on google and it seems like a pretty hot topic. My son started sleeping thru the night at 3 months. We let him cry it out and in 30 minutes he was down. We moved and this threw his schedule off. My wife wasn't able to let him cry it out again. Now he's nearly 6 months and his schedule is horribly off. He's cranky some days, fine other days. Some days it's a 4hr nap, some days it's no nap. Nights are a mess. He's usually up every 15minutes and pacifcying himself on my wife and then he finally goes to bed for a few hours. He wakes up does the nuzzling bit for about 2hrs and then sleeps again for a few more hours. We tried letting him cry it out but this time it's different. He's a lot tougher than before. We did 1hr, and it was killing me. His voice is so much louder than before and if I even open the door quitely he picks up on it and cries louder. He's on a set schedule again (rice cereal in the am, going for a walk in the afternoon, solids in the evening, bath in the evening at pretty much set times) but we just can't get him to sleep unless my wife is next to him let him nuzzle on her breast on and off thru the night. We tried the "baby whisperer" method of picking him up, calming him down and putting him back down but that has not worked so far since it takes over 20minutes to calm him down. Right now for 2nights in a row we went over 2hrs of letting him cry and nothing. No progress. He's just hysterical. What do we do? What's the longest length someone will let them "cry it out"? He's not teething. He's not gassy (he's well burped thru the day). He's probably not even that hungry because the wife says he's just pacifying himself thru the night on her breast. He's never cared much for using a pacifier either and when we've tried to pull the "switcheroo" (moving him from breast to pacifier) it never seems to work. So, question is...how long has anyone let there baby CIO? The 1st time around at 3 months, 30-40minutes was painful but it worked. This time around it is so much harder. Also, I know a lot of people are opposed to the CIO method but I can't function at work on the 3-5hrs of sleep I get and my son is always happiest when he gets a really long sleep at night. Any suggestions? We just went in and got him again and he cried for 2hrs. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
the dreaded "sleep thru night" thread
wrote in message ... I've been reading a lot of newsgroup archives on this issue on google and it seems like a pretty hot topic. My son started sleeping thru the night at 3 months. We let him cry it out and in 30 minutes he was down. We moved and this threw his schedule off. My wife wasn't able to let him cry it out again. Now he's nearly 6 months and his schedule is horribly off. He's cranky some days, fine other days. Some days it's a 4hr nap, some days it's no nap. Nights are a mess. He's usually up every 15minutes and pacifcying himself on my wife and then he finally goes to bed for a few hours. He wakes up does the nuzzling bit for about 2hrs and then sleeps again for a few more hours. We tried letting him cry it out but this time it's different. He's a lot tougher than before. We did 1hr, and it was killing me. His voice is so much louder than before and if I even open the door quitely he picks up on it and cries louder. He's on a set schedule again (rice cereal in the am, going for a walk in the afternoon, solids in the evening, bath in the evening at pretty much set times) but we just can't get him to sleep unless my wife is next to him let him nuzzle on her breast on and off thru the night. We tried the "baby whisperer" method of picking him up, calming him down and putting him back down but that has not worked so far since it takes over 20minutes to calm him down. Right now for 2nights in a row we went over 2hrs of letting him cry and nothing. No progress. He's just hysterical. What do we do? What's the longest length someone will let them "cry it out"? He's not teething. He's not gassy (he's well burped thru the day). He's probably not even that hungry because the wife says he's just pacifying himself thru the night on her breast. He's never cared much for using a pacifier either and when we've tried to pull the "switcheroo" (moving him from breast to pacifier) it never seems to work. So, question is...how long has anyone let there baby CIO? The 1st time around at 3 months, 30-40minutes was painful but it worked. This time around it is so much harder. Also, I know a lot of people are opposed to the CIO method but I can't function at work on the 3-5hrs of sleep I get and my son is always happiest when he gets a really long sleep at night. Any suggestions? We just went in and got him again and he cried for 2hrs. There are 2 source of information on sleeping that I can think of: Solve Your Child's Sleep Problems by Dr. Ferber The No Cry Sleep Solution by someone whose name I cannot remember. If I were in your shoes, which I was a while back with my son, I would read different ideas and see if any helped. I thought reading the whole of the Ferber book was helpful rather than just "let them cry." IF you are going to chose a method which involves crying, it is helpful to know if your situation is one in which crying might be effective. Incidentally, crying is not the goal, it is a painful side effect of the method. I know nothing about the The No Cry Sleep Solution other than it is endorsed by AP organizations and Dr. Sears. So it has to be more gentle than the Ferber method. I have no anecdotal info about its effectiveness. Good luck. S |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
the dreaded "sleep thru night" thread
wrote:
Now he's nearly 6 months and his schedule is horribly off. He's cranky some days, fine other days. Some days it's a 4hr nap, some days it's no nap. Nights are a mess. He's usually up every 15minutes and pacifcying himself on my wife and then he finally goes to bed for a few hours. He wakes up does the nuzzling bit for about 2hrs and then sleeps again for a few more hours. A four hour nap?! Sheeh...I wouldn't want to sleep either. We did naps that were no more than 2 hours, and still do. And no naps after 4p. P's always asleep by 10, at the latest. He doesn't sleep through, but at least we get him down at a normal time, and up at a normal time. -- 'Tis Herself |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
the dreaded "sleep thru night" thread
A four hour nap?! Sheeh...I wouldn't want to sleep either. We did naps that were no more than 2 hours, and still do. And no naps after 4p. P's always asleep by 10, at the latest. He doesn't sleep through, but at least we get him down at a normal time, and up at a normal time. -- 'Tis Herself My youngest is 23 months and that's what we do. He naps from 12-2 usually. No way does he go past 4 pm. We started putting ours down at a bedtime at 6 months old. We got him whenever he woke up. I wouldn't let a 6 month old CIO, and certainly not for an hour or 2. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
the dreaded "sleep thru night" thread
Sophie wrote in message ... A four hour nap?! Sheeh...I wouldn't want to sleep either. We did naps that were no more than 2 hours, and still do. And no naps after 4p. P's always asleep by 10, at the latest. He doesn't sleep through, but at least we get him down at a normal time, and up at a normal time. -- 'Tis Herself My youngest is 23 months and that's what we do. He naps from 12-2 usually. No way does he go past 4 pm. We started putting ours down at a bedtime at 6 months old. We got him whenever he woke up. I wouldn't let a 6 month old CIO, and certainly not for an hour or 2. Depends on the child though. Dd#1 would have a 4 hour nap finishing at about 5:30 or sometimes later, then would go to bed at 8:30 and sleep 12 hours. That was when she was about 10-12 months. After that I had to get her up by 5:00, and no more than 3 hours, if I wanted her to settle easily. She still is best (age 3) with 1-1.5hour nap woken at 4:00. Until about 3-4months ago she could sleep till 4:30, and would sleep for 2 hours without having problems sleeping at 8:30. However she does survive without a sleep if necessary. Debbie |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
the dreaded "sleep thru night" thread
I guess there are two camps he those that say let 'em cry and those that
say "how awful, how can that be good for anyone?" We moved about a year and a half ago with an 18-month old. Very traumatic. I am a huge fan of Dr. Ferber and his "Solving your Child's Sleep Problems" book having now used the method on two children and having many many friends who have done the same. Yes, it is painful to hear them cry. My wife slept in the living room with earplugs in while I "ferberized" Erika. It was 3 bad nights, ZERO bad nights since. They are not in pain when they are crying, they have just learned that "if I cry long enough, they'll come pick me up". If you got put to sleep every night with a gentle massage, cradled in someone's arms, maybe a little snack, how would you like being tossed into a cold bed in a dark room by yourself? It's all about expectations and associations. The child must learn to associate being put in a dark room in bed with sleeping. If they are always nursed to sleep, they learn to associate nursing with sleep and the two become inseparable, can't have one without the other. Hence if they happen to wake up in the middle of the night (which is normal, everybody does) of course they are going to want (need) to be nursed back to sleep. I had it put to me like this: adults tend to associate pillows with sleep. Imagine if you will waking up in the middle of the night and your pillow has gone missing. I doubt you'd roll over and go back to sleep... you need that pillow, you always sleep with that pillow. Same way with kids and nursing (or cuddling, cradling, rocking, whatever). As the Ferber book dictates, you've got to train the baby to associate sleep with whatever environment you plan on providing at night such as a bed and a darkened room. Just my 2 cents, I'm no expert. Good luck, hope you get some sleep soon. BTW on the issue of naps we put our kids down at 7:30pm every night. They get enough sleep (even the 6-month-old) that they do not need or want extended (2hr) naps in the afternoon. We let the baby nap whenever she is cranky, sometimes she'll have a nap after dinner from 6:30-7pm before bath time but never has a problem sleeping. wrote in message ... I've been reading a lot of newsgroup archives on this issue on google and it seems like a pretty hot topic. My son started sleeping thru the night at 3 months. We let him cry it out and in 30 minutes he was down. We moved and this threw his schedule off. My wife wasn't able to let him cry it out again. Now he's nearly 6 months and his schedule is horribly off. He's cranky some days, fine other days. Some days it's a 4hr nap, some days it's no nap. Nights are a mess. He's usually up every 15minutes and pacifcying himself on my wife and then he finally goes to bed for a few hours. He wakes up does the nuzzling bit for about 2hrs and then sleeps again for a few more hours. We tried letting him cry it out but this time it's different. He's a lot tougher than before. We did 1hr, and it was killing me. His voice is so much louder than before and if I even open the door quitely he picks up on it and cries louder. He's on a set schedule again (rice cereal in the am, going for a walk in the afternoon, solids in the evening, bath in the evening at pretty much set times) but we just can't get him to sleep unless my wife is next to him let him nuzzle on her breast on and off thru the night. We tried the "baby whisperer" method of picking him up, calming him down and putting him back down but that has not worked so far since it takes over 20minutes to calm him down. Right now for 2nights in a row we went over 2hrs of letting him cry and nothing. No progress. He's just hysterical. What do we do? What's the longest length someone will let them "cry it out"? He's not teething. He's not gassy (he's well burped thru the day). He's probably not even that hungry because the wife says he's just pacifying himself thru the night on her breast. He's never cared much for using a pacifier either and when we've tried to pull the "switcheroo" (moving him from breast to pacifier) it never seems to work. So, question is...how long has anyone let there baby CIO? The 1st time around at 3 months, 30-40minutes was painful but it worked. This time around it is so much harder. Also, I know a lot of people are opposed to the CIO method but I can't function at work on the 3-5hrs of sleep I get and my son is always happiest when he gets a really long sleep at night. Any suggestions? We just went in and got him again and he cried for 2hrs. |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
the dreaded "sleep thru night" thread
"David Spear" wrote in message news:mO7ub.16207$1K.12344@edtnps84... I guess there are two camps he those that say let 'em cry and those that say "how awful, how can that be good for anyone?" I dunno, think the objection is with the age of the *baby* and letting him CIO for *2* hrs. We moved about a year and a half ago with an 18-month old. Very traumatic. I am a huge fan of Dr. Ferber and his "Solving your Child's Sleep Problems" book having now used the method on two children and having many many friends who have done the same. Yes, it is painful to hear them cry. My wife slept in the living room with earplugs in while I "ferberized" Erika. It was 3 bad nights, ZERO bad nights since. They are not in pain when they are crying, they have just learned that "if I cry long enough, they'll come pick me up". If you got put to sleep every night with a gentle massage, cradled in someone's arms, maybe a little snack, how would you like being tossed into a cold bed in a dark room by yourself? It's all about expectations and associations. The child must learn to associate being put in a dark room in bed with sleeping. If they are always nursed to sleep, they learn to associate nursing with sleep and the two become inseparable, can't have one without the other. Hence if they happen to wake up in the middle of the night (which is normal, everybody does) of course they are going to want (need) to be nursed back to sleep. I had it put to me like this: adults tend to associate pillows with sleep. Imagine if you will waking up in the middle of the night and your pillow has gone missing. I doubt you'd roll over and go back to sleep... you need that pillow, you always sleep with that pillow. Same way with kids and nursing (or cuddling, cradling, rocking, whatever). As the Ferber book dictates, you've got to train the baby to associate sleep with whatever environment you plan on providing at night such as a bed and a darkened room. Just my 2 cents, I'm no expert. Good luck, hope you get some sleep soon. BTW on the issue of naps we put our kids down at 7:30pm every night. They get enough sleep (even the 6-month-old) that they do not need or want extended (2hr) naps in the afternoon. We let the baby nap whenever she is cranky, sometimes she'll have a nap after dinner from 6:30-7pm before bath time but never has a problem sleeping. wrote in message ... I've been reading a lot of newsgroup archives on this issue on google and it seems like a pretty hot topic. My son started sleeping thru the night at 3 months. We let him cry it out and in 30 minutes he was down. We moved and this threw his schedule off. My wife wasn't able to let him cry it out again. Now he's nearly 6 months and his schedule is horribly off. He's cranky some days, fine other days. Some days it's a 4hr nap, some days it's no nap. Nights are a mess. He's usually up every 15minutes and pacifcying himself on my wife and then he finally goes to bed for a few hours. He wakes up does the nuzzling bit for about 2hrs and then sleeps again for a few more hours. We tried letting him cry it out but this time it's different. He's a lot tougher than before. We did 1hr, and it was killing me. His voice is so much louder than before and if I even open the door quitely he picks up on it and cries louder. He's on a set schedule again (rice cereal in the am, going for a walk in the afternoon, solids in the evening, bath in the evening at pretty much set times) but we just can't get him to sleep unless my wife is next to him let him nuzzle on her breast on and off thru the night. We tried the "baby whisperer" method of picking him up, calming him down and putting him back down but that has not worked so far since it takes over 20minutes to calm him down. Right now for 2nights in a row we went over 2hrs of letting him cry and nothing. No progress. He's just hysterical. What do we do? What's the longest length someone will let them "cry it out"? He's not teething. He's not gassy (he's well burped thru the day). He's probably not even that hungry because the wife says he's just pacifying himself thru the night on her breast. He's never cared much for using a pacifier either and when we've tried to pull the "switcheroo" (moving him from breast to pacifier) it never seems to work. So, question is...how long has anyone let there baby CIO? The 1st time around at 3 months, 30-40minutes was painful but it worked. This time around it is so much harder. Also, I know a lot of people are opposed to the CIO method but I can't function at work on the 3-5hrs of sleep I get and my son is always happiest when he gets a really long sleep at night. Any suggestions? We just went in and got him again and he cried for 2hrs. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Newly aquired night waking habit | Shannon and Sheldon | General | 12 | August 18th 03 05:29 AM |
Clarification teaching good sleep habits (xpost) | Marie | General | 7 | August 6th 03 10:04 PM |
teaching good sleep habits (xpost) | H Schinske | General | 12 | August 5th 03 09:13 PM |
writhing and crying in night | Nevermind | General | 6 | August 5th 03 06:16 AM |
5.5 Week Old Slept Through Night... | JoAnna | General | 4 | July 31st 03 01:49 AM |