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Old November 25th 03, 12:23 PM
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Bob says the Constitution requires equal treatment under the law.
If the NCLB qualifies as "equal treatment" then so does the NGLB.
WTF is the difference?


I would settle for a division of groups. Keep the smart kids with the smart
kids and the slow kids with the slow kids. That way most of them will be
learning as much as they can as fast as they can.




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Old November 27th 03, 06:53 AM
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"Specialsearcher" wrote in message
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Bob says the Constitution requires equal treatment under the law.
If the NCLB qualifies as "equal treatment" then so does the NGLB.
WTF is the difference?


I would settle for a division of groups. Keep the smart kids with the

smart
kids and the slow kids with the slow kids. That way most of them will be
learning as much as they can as fast as they can.


The problem that I have with this notion is a social one. My daughter is a
gifted student. Her school decided that this was a good idea too. They
seperated the grade into three levels - those working above grade level (or
the gifted students), those working on grade level, and those working below
grade level (the remedials). The problem was that my middle-class,
non-white child (because of her intelligence) was stuck in a classroom with
upper middle white children. She was not around other children like herself
and felt very much on the outside fringe of the group for the last three
years that she was in elementary school. She felt punished for her
intelligence, and no child ought to feel that way.


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Old November 28th 03, 01:39 PM
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Roger Dodger wrote:

And what of the money flushed down the basketball hoops and
football goalposts of schools, that could instead be spend on
labs and libraries?


This is one of my favorite sore pointz: taking a bunch of
IQ-75 DAFNz into the major universities, calling them "students"
merely for the purpose of having good football/basketball teams.
They all get "tutors" to do their homework and term paperz.

Because such good teams hype the alumni, get them donating lots
of money to the alma mater, that'z why. Ditto paying the coaches
five times as much as the president of the university, or dean of
the medical school. Absolutely disgraceful.

It'z academic prosititution, makes money so it'z OK.

Universities are about INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENT AND ACCOMPLISHMENT.
If *MONEY* is what they are after, why not just open a casino and
whorehouse next to the campus and make some Really_Big_Money
while keeping the school academically and intellectually pure.

The last University of Washington entering freshman class
(4500 students), after the the recently-passed state law
eliminating racial preferences, had only 138 DAFNz.
Just about enough to re-stock the teamz for those IQ-75 "studentz"
who had used up their athletic eligibility...
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Old November 28th 03, 10:42 PM
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wrote:

Roger Dodger wrote:

And what of the money flushed down the basketball hoops and
football goalposts of schools, that could instead be spend on
labs and libraries?


This is one of my favorite sore pointz: taking a bunch of
IQ-75 DAFNz into the major universities, calling them "students"
merely for the purpose of having good football/basketball teams.
They all get "tutors" to do their homework and term paperz.

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They aren't genetically defective, as proven by some of them who
suddenly develop in their studies and leave athletics. The ones
who need homework-cheats have been cheated themselves throughout
their early life by this society. Just because they continue to
behave as the cheated child does, is evidence only that they were
cheated out of their formative years of education.


Because such good teams hype the alumni, get them donating lots
of money to the alma mater, that'z why. Ditto paying the coaches
five times as much as the president of the university, or dean of
the medical school. Absolutely disgraceful.
It'z academic prosititution, makes money so it'z OK.

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Agree, but it doesn't make it genetic.


Universities are about INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENT AND ACCOMPLISHMENT.
If *MONEY* is what they are after, why not just open a casino and
whorehouse next to the campus and make some Really_Big_Money
while keeping the school academically and intellectually pure.

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If you fund them so well that they don't have to worry about money,
then they will be, but so far no ignorant body-politic has done so.


The last University of Washington entering freshman class
(4500 students), after the the recently-passed state law
eliminating racial preferences, had only 138 DAFNz.

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Doesn't make it genetic, it is merely what happens when children
are cheated out of the education we owe them.


Just about enough to re-stock the teamz for those IQ-75 "studentz"
who had used up their athletic eligibility...

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Still isn't genetic.
Steve
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Old December 2nd 03, 09:38 PM
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Roger Dodger wrote:


And what of the money flushed down the basketball hoops and
football goalposts of schools, that could instead be spend on
labs and libraries?


This is one of my favorite sore pointz: taking a bunch of
IQ-75 DAFNz


What are DAFNz? Is this some anti-black racial comment?

Let me remind you that many, if not most, of the glorified
jocks happen to be white.

into the major universities, calling them "students"
merely for the purpose of having good football/basketball teams.


It happens in high school too. In many high schools, it's
*worse*. Far worse. I have yet to hear of any shooting
incident, related to jock bullying, in a university or college
rather than a high school.

(Mind you, increased maturity and voluntary attendance *might*
also have something to do with it.)

They all get "tutors" to do their homework and term paperz.


Because such good teams hype the alumni, get them donating lots
of money to the alma mater, that'z why. Ditto paying the coaches
five times as much as the president of the university, or dean of
the medical school. Absolutely disgraceful.

It'z academic prosititution, makes money so it'z OK.


Sports in academia are a nineteenth-century relic. It came from the
era of wealthy young "gentlemen" with more money than brains using
colleges as playgrounds. If students want to be well-rounded four-
letter-men, they can be so on their own time.

Universities are about INTELLECTUAL DEVELOPMENT AND ACCOMPLISHMENT.
If *MONEY* is what they are after, why not just open a casino and
whorehouse next to the campus and make some Really_Big_Money
while keeping the school academically and intellectually pure.


OK. I agree with this. After all, the proceeds from casinos and
other forms of gambling sometimes go towards charities.

Or how about a private institution, with no state or corporate
funding, offering pure (but expensive) forms of education
uncontaminated by sports or political correctness?
 




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