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U.N. rules Canada should ban spanking
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Ray Drouillard wrote: "Jon Houts" wrote This would be another great opportunity for Brandon or Kanga to explain to us how the archaic (Webster's lists the meaning of "offend" above as being "obsolete") language of the KJV isn't misleading to a modern reader. shame shame shame... you *knew* that you would automatically get his goat by pushing that button. "Automatically"? I tried on Sept 13, 2002 (when someone posted a bunch of "pro-gay" KJV prooftexts) and he didn't respond. |
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"Jon Houts" wrote in message
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Ray Drouillard wrote: "Jon Houts" wrote This would be another great opportunity for Brandon or Kanga to explain to us how the archaic (Webster's lists the meaning of "offend" above as being "obsolete") language of the KJV isn't misleading to a modern reader. shame shame shame... you *knew* that you would automatically get his goat by pushing that button. "Automatically"? I tried on Sept 13, 2002 (when someone posted a bunch of "pro-gay" KJV prooftexts) and he didn't respond. Guess I missed that one. Must have my reflexes checked. http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/twohomosexuals.htm -- Brandon Staggs http://www.brandonstaggs.com |
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U.N. rules Canada should ban spanking
On Sun, 2 Nov 2003, Brandon wrote: If it bothers you to have archaic or hard- to-understand words in a Bible, What was that you said about misrepresentation again? My problem is with words that meant one thing at one point in time, and something else today. If a word isn't used today (archaic) or is "hard to understand," one can look it up, right? If you wrongly think you know what a word mean (as LaVonne did), you have no reason to look it up. The NIV uses the word "abutted" in Eze 40:18. The more modern KJV uses the word "against." The NIV uses the word "alcove" in Eze 40:13. The easier to understand KJV uses the words "little chamber." The NIV uses "annotations" in 2Chr 13:22. The simpler KJV uses "stories." The NIV uses "breakers" in Ps 93:4. The up-to-date KJV uses "waves." The NIV uses "brood" in Isa 57:4. The obviously more accessible KJV uses "children." ....and you thought those words meant something else? The archaic NIV uses "colonnade" in Re 1Ki 7:6. The KJV uses "porch." I have one neighbor who has what I think of as a "colonnade," and lots of neighbors with "porches." From the description, does it sound anything like what you see called a "porch" today? The overly complex NIV uses "disheartened" in Eze 13:22. The KJV makes this simpler with "sad." Do you know what enrollment is? The NIV doesn't. It uses "enrollment" in 2Chr 17:14. I mean, how is a modern reader supposed to understand that they didn't actually enroll in a class? Neither of the dictionaries I have here listed "register for a class" (or similar wording as a definition for "enrollment." The NIV has "haunt" in Ps 44:19. Since we all know that "haunt" is something ghosts do, the KJV updated this to "place." Since "magi" in the NIV at Mt 2:1 could easily conjur up visions of wizards, the KJV has the more clear "wise men." Since they were more like astrologers, visions of wizards doesn't seem like a bad image to conjure up. "Wise men" seems a little vague. Now please: when you think of a THONG, do you *really* envision something Jesus would wear? You see, the old NIV was written before the modern popular "Thong Song." (http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~harel/c...hong_Song.html ) They wouldn't understand that TODAY, when we talk about thongs, we are talking about what in THOSE days (when the NIV was translated) was called a "G-string." Don't worry about what the dictionary says because face it, when kids think about thongs, they aren't thinking about shoelaces. So it is obviously a BAD THING to have John messing with the Lord's thong in Luke 3:16. So the more modern KJV translators, not wanting a raunchy R&B song to be brought to mind when reading the Bible, change "thong" to "latchet." Sure, "latchet" has two syllables, and that may leave some people behind, but we think you'll agree that it's a worthwhile trade-off. Well, some of us *do* think footwear when we see "thong." But, I think that whole discussion was before your time in the ng. but,but... Jon |
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Brandon wrote: "Jon Houts" wrote "Automatically"? I tried on Sept 13, 2002 (when someone posted a bunch of "pro-gay" KJV prooftexts) and he didn't respond. Guess I missed that one. Must have my reflexes checked. I was less inclined to believe that that was an honest misunderstanding. I thought maybe that was why you didn't answer that one. Then again, I don't think you were posting much then. but,but... Jon |
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U.N. rules Canada should ban spanking
"Jon Houts" wrote in message ... The archaic NIV uses "colonnade" in Re 1Ki 7:6. The KJV uses "porch." I have one neighbor who has what I think of as a "colonnade," and lots of neighbors with "porches." From the description, does it sound anything like what you see called a "porch" today? Actually we call it a "Lanai" in Hawaii. -- - Rebekah Staggs http://www.staggs.pair.com/jaenest |
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Why would ""Frank"" post your opinions under his own name?
That kind of defeats the purpose of forging doesn't it? Is he your friend or your foe? Didn't you used to use a name starting with k9, Kane? |
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Ray attempts Biblical justification: was U.N. rules Canadashould ban spanking
Doan, That was Strauss that reversed himself, right?
Since he was pretty much the Guru of the anti-spankers, I wonder how many of LaVonne's textbooks are incorrect? LaVonne: Do you have a syllabus online? |
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Kane: What about the messages that ""Frank"" posted
under his own name that sounded like your issues? Even paranoia about Christian reconstructionism? Why would ""Frank"" post your stuff under his name? Defeats purpose of message header forgery doesn't it? |
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So why did ""Frank"" post your issues under his name for weeks?
Wouldn't that undermind his ""forgery""? |
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